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dont be hatin :rolleyes:

i agree, u dont see the worlds top drivers (f1 drivers) ever drifting, unless they made a mistake- but they dont drift to get faster lap times...

no ****... i dont know why people keep bringing that up. drifting is not the quickest way around a corner but the most exciting way. Getting the fastest time by sticking to the line can get boring that's why people drift cuz it's FUN.

I do hope they add some sort of drifting competition. I dont see why adding that would turn people away from the game IMO. So guys what if it were to be added to the game would you still buy it or not?
 
As a side note: Today's [9/28/03] Wall Street Journal has a column on "drifting", its origin, and drifting in the US. Odd how this topic makes it on a financials periodical.
 
You have to do a lot of things in GT3 that not very many people want to do. The Vitz Cup for example. I'm sure there will be some races that you don't want to do in GT4, as well. Drifting could be a very small race. Maybe 3 single races in amature mode, and 3 singles in proffessional. That could be it. Enough to satisify the drifters, and not enough to piss off the non-drifters.
 
Originally posted by T13R

As for the drifting, it should be something optional. Drift competitions? What the hell is a drift competition?
"Oh your vehicle has a beautiful angle in that curve.. 1st prize" :confused:

Now that I actually took time to read the post...

In the D1 series, the judges base scores on a bunch of things.

From what I've seen in videos, juges take the following into consideration:

Throttle position during drifting, the distance between the two drifters, angle, and above all else, style. And by style, I mean the different types of drifting, ranging from e-brake to power over to feint, etc. There are various types, all described in a small video I have on my computer that was demonstrated by the Drift King himself.
 
But this is Gran Turismo, the Real Driving Simulator! You go to any track day, any club day, and they race proper lines getting the fastest time possible, they don't go around drifting around everywhere because they would have to change tires every ten laps which isn't fast.

I sure as hell they don't add compulsory drifting, if they do would anyone like to start up a petition against it with me? :lol:
 
Originally posted by Cobraboy


I sure as hell they don't add compulsory drifting, if they do would anyone like to start up a petition against it with me? :lol:

Count me in.

There's a drift game coming out relatively soon anyway (Kaido Battle Drift Racer) that'll surely interest our closet ricers... err, drifters.
 
eh he he he? drifting is for car parks? HAHA

Drifting is the true way of showing one's driving abilities. There are so many professional racers who come from amature drifting backgrounds. Drifting in Europe is still very primitive, its yet to develop. In Japan there is a huge trend since the 80's and there are special tracks for drifting called "Gym Khana".

If you don't believe of the ABSOLUTE AWESOMEness of Drifting look for D1 grandprix Drift Series - the first ever pro drift league in the world.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/vids/option/p03.mpg

That's a good example but there are other D1GP videos floating around on the net.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Count me in.

There's a drift game coming out relatively soon anyway (Kaido Battle Drift Racer) that'll surely interest our closet ricers... err, drifters.

RICERS=DRIFTERS?????!!!!! ARE YOU A COMPLETE ****ING MORON?!!!!!! I have YET to meet ONE drifter or fan that has any ricer friends. If your avatar is your car, then DAMN, you're the ricer in this situation.

And for the other guy that was talking about wasting tires. Most drifters are sponsored by tire companies, and those that aren't sponsored sometimes do this --> Have a separate pair of rear wheels for drifting that fit to most tires, and they get tires from junkyards. Whenever the steel belts wear through, at night it provides a sparking effect when the car slides. Except for the rich ones. They just don't care.

What I think a lot of people miss on this thread is that drifting is for SHOW. It is not used for racing, and it is not the most advantageous line. Drifters and drift fans know this. Go look at the drifting forum. So of course you're not going to see a common person drifting at a track day.

Try to gain some knowledge on the topic before you make your post.
 
Originally posted by FutureGTRDriver
RICERS=DRIFTERS?????!!!!! ARE YOU A COMPLETE ****ING MORON?!!!!!! I have YET to meet ONE drifter or fan that has any ricer friends. If your avatar is your car, then DAMN, you're the ricer in this situation.

And for the other guy that was talking about wasting tires. Most drifters are sponsored by tire companies, and those that aren't sponsored sometimes do this --> Have a separate pair of rear wheels for drifting that fit to most tires, and they get tires from junkyards. Whenever the steel belts wear through, at night it provides a sparking effect when the car slides. Except for the rich ones. They just don't care.

What I think a lot of people miss on this thread is that drifting is for SHOW. It is not used for racing, and it is not the most advantageous line. Drifters and drift fans know this. Go look at the drifting forum. So of course you're not going to see a common person drifting at a track day.

Try to gain some knowledge on the topic before you make your post.

You seem to know what you're talking about, so i won't bother you too much on the subject. Finally, someone interested in drifting who can make sentences that don't include the expressions "OMG, loloolllzz!1!!1" and etc. When i say "ricer", it's obvious i mean every 15-16 year old kid who can't spell, who wants a 240SX or a Corolla GT-S so he can do what he sees in the animes or videos, not the guys that "do that for a living", like Manabu Orido, Nobuteru Taniguchi, Ken Nomura and all the others. It's obvious it takes skills, duh, and i never said against that.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
You seem to know what you're talking about, so i won't bother you too much on the subject. Finally, someone interested in drifting who can make sentences that don't include the expressions "OMG, loloolllzz!1!!1" and etc. When i say "ricer", it's obvious i mean every 15-16 year old kid who can't spell, who wants a 240SX or a Corolla GT-S so he can do what he sees in the animes or videos, not the guys that "do that for a living", like Manabu Orido, Nobuteru Taniguchi, Ken Nomura and all the others. It's obvious it takes skills, duh, and i never said against that.

My fault for jumping to conclusions. And I agree. I hate internet abbreviations. You're right about the kids though. Luckily for me, they don't know the drift cars if they saw one. I was at NOPI Nationals in Atlanta this weekend, and they had the #3 driver from Japan, who drives an orange Sil80, which says "Drift Works." Anyways, the point is, as you said, there were rice kids that didn't know what the hell was going on, and they were talking trash about the local guy who has a KA24 turbo, and this moron was talking about how the guy sucked and his car had too much body roll. I asked him, what's your car? "240 coupe." And what motor? "I ordered an RB20." Which one, a 25 or 26? "Uh, there's only one, man, the 20." I REFUSED to go further b/c I would've wanted to throw him in front of the car as it slid by.

Once again, I apologize for such a negative response. Oh and your car isn't rice. It does look nice. JDM fan?
 
Originally posted by FutureGTRDriver
Once again, I apologize for such a negative response. Oh and your car isn't rice. It does look nice. JDM fan?

Yes, PR hates rice as much as anyone else does, but he appreciates a nice clean Honda.

So do I come to think of it, is that a bad thing? :lol:
 
All the members of Atlanta Streets have good, clean rides, and we do not accept ricer members on our forum. We have only the best. H22 Preludes, Integra Type-Rs and GS-Rs, and then of course all the Supras, RX-7s, RX-8s, S-2000s, Imprezas, Evos. We're a relatively small site now (90 members) but our numbers are growing as we weed out the rice from the streets of Georgia. We cater to anyone. We have Buick Grand Nationals, M3's, a T28-powered Miata, the list goes on. But NO RICE WHATSOEVER. Our moderators will more than likely delete posts from the rice kids before anyone else can get to them. So if you are living in the state of Georgia, and you consider yourself a car enthusiast, JOIN OUR SITE BY ALL MEANS UNLESS YOU CUT YOUR SPRINGS TO LOWER YOUR CAR, or duct taped your door handles for a shaved look, or you have the Arospeed intake styled like an intercooler.

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Serving the Atlanta area's street scene.
 
the d1 comp is VERY popular in japan, drift is an extremely effective and enjoyable way of learning the limits of your vehicle... it excites the fu ck out of me that the designers of gt4 have listened to my prayers, as it looks like gt4 is gonna have some sweet drift!!! we need ebisu and some touge, as well as some mountain passes, where this sport was born!
 
That was the only thing I liked about Auto Modellista. Is that it had tracks like Akagi in it. Auto Modellista just didn't cut it. If you liked the tuning and customization, get Tokyo Xtreme Racer. If you like the racing, get Gran Turismo. The tracks was the only real decent thing in the game. Touge would be fun. The closest thing to that is Trial Mountain.
 
I think it would be far too difficult to judge a drift competition in GT4, quite how they'll pull it off I don't know. Perhaps just a mode in Arcade where you race an AI driver who drifts around the track with you. (this would be favourable, since I know many people will be pis*ed off by it - not that I'm against a drift Champ in sim mode)**

The judging perhaps would just be by distance apart and throttle position as well as perhaps tyre smoke, I find it is much harder to sustain a drift without totally hammering the tyres so there's smoke pouring off them. These few things should not be too difficult to 'measure' in the game and determine a winner from it.

** side note - what is the obsession with 100% complete, if you want it that bad you will try and get it, this means playing the game, whatever that may involve. License tests for example, you have to do all of them to continue with the game and complete it, because that is what the designers decided - they are an absolute pain in the Rse but you have to do them... I think it's time we stopped being little babies and accept changes that Kazunori wants to make to HIS Game

Rant over, sorry folks...
 
on the subject of judging the drift... i assume how long the drift is held, the angle of drift, and fishtailing up the straights would combine to a high score. this is how drift comps are run in japan to the best of my knowledge, taking good lines and looking as wildly balls out as possible... team drift would also be very cool, i had an idea where u do ten laps, find the lap that u like best, make that ghost a solid car and team drift with it... im sure everyone else here has done this is test runs in gt3...
 
Originally posted by Solid Lifters
Sometimes I will drift a corner if I am getting bored, but I don't want to see a "Contest" that you must complete in order to get 100%. That would be a HUGE mistake.

I think not.

The drift culture in Japan is huge, it would be the mistake to not add a dedicated drift event in GT4 (w/ drift tracks / D1-spec cars )

I dont think it will stop you from getting that all important 100% either, but it will please thousands of drift fans / drifters who love the sport and still drift in GT2/GT3.

one event.. big deal, like I wanted to race in the beetle cup in GT3... but I did.

tis fantastic news IMO. hopefully GT5 will include touge.
 
Personally, I welcome a drifting contest or whatever it will be called, option....
 
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