Supercharged/Turbo Vipers, Corvettes, etc?

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Acid X
Bah, what kinda person would put a turbo on a muscle car anyway. Jebus. Turbo's are for import cars. My opinion. :)
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My Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe is not an import. And neither is the Ford Mustang SVO for that matter...
 
Acid X
Bah, what kinda person would put a turbo on a muscle car anyway. Jebus. Turbo's are for import cars. My opinion. :)
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Aww come on man. Turbos and superchargers are for anyone who want to get more power out of their car.
 
MrktMkr1986
My Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe is not an import. And neither is the Ford Mustang SVO for that matter...
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don't forget the Buick Grand National, or the Lingenfelt Corvette, or the Hennesy Viper or .... the list goes on :)
 
The supercharger icon looks like it is supposed to represent a roots style blower. You can use it on many of the American cars, and as I found out last night, you can run it on an RX-8. Interesting concept, IMO. It does not stick out of the hood, and I haven't noticed much of a whine from it on the cars I've put it on. (Then again, they have loud exhausts). The whine is definitely there on the Cobra R and Ford GT, though.

I have a supercharger on my Saleen S7, and it is putting out a bit over 800PS. (I can't check the exact figure as I've got an endurance race running right now).

On the RX-8, the supercharger gives a bit more power than the stage 2 turbo, but less than the stage 3. It is a generally inexpensive upgrade, though, on any car for which it is available. Less expensive than stage 2 turbos, and NA buildups.
 
I rather natural aspiration to Turbos, much better response time. Besides nothing beats the growl of a NA engine, that bone shaking bass. Turbos are great for boosting hp but don't too much like the kick, and the lag. Super chargers are what they are, cheap alternatives to full tune ups, but they come at a privce, the tend to add heft to the engine. I think that they have made technological advances as to reduce the size and weight of super chargers, as to avoid them protruding through the hoods of vehicles, as i don't think that is legal to have such an obstruction in your field of view in your car.
 
SavageEvil
I rather natural aspiration to Turbos, much better response time. Besides nothing beats the growl of a NA engine, that bone shaking bass. Turbos are great for boosting hp but don't too much like the kick, and the lag. Super chargers are what they are, cheap alternatives to full tune ups, but they come at a privce, the tend to add heft to the engine. I think that they have made technological advances as to reduce the size and weight of super chargers, as to avoid them protruding through the hoods of vehicles, as i don't think that is legal to have such an obstruction in your field of view in your car.
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Probably illegal in New York because of all the damn traffic we have! :grumpy:
However, turbo cars can also growl, though they tend to "boom" more. The lag can be annoying, but most new turbocharged cars are designed to eliminate lag altogether (so this excuse is not entirely valid). EX: Volvo S40.
 
Well my daily driven ride comes stock with a supercharger from the factory, and I'd love to be able to do all the mods to it in the game just like I've done to it in real life. I'd also like there to be blower whine, since we're trying to be realistic here as well. At this point, however, I'd just be happy to have the damn car in the game at all...which it's not.

In addition to the forced induction issue, are we able to bump the displacement more in this version than in past ones? What did they have in GT3...like..2 cars total that you cuold use that mod on? What a waste. I think th egame should try to accurately represent the types of mods that the majority of their real life counterparts use. Like, the LS1's often get heads, cams, and nitrous. The Viper usually gets a turbo or supercharger. The old 5.0's usually get lengine swaps to 347's on up, etc. Hell, I'm not biased, give the Honda's their B16's (or whatever the designation is), the Nissans their SR22DETsomething-or-other motor swaps, etc. I don't care, just make it real.
 
CFM
So if you put a supercharger on one of the older musclecars, can you see it poking out of the hood, or did PD whuss out and leave the exterior the same?
I'm hoping it looks like this: (Yeah right:rolleyes: )
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Those are only good for drag-racing.
 
Acid X
Bah, what kinda person would put a turbo on a muscle car anyway. Jebus. Turbo's are for import cars. My opinion. :)
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the mustang svo Is a popular Turbo car and personally one of my favorite mustangs :)

I believe that Ford started messing with turbos in the late 70's early 80's, even the mustang gt had a 4 Cyl turbo option in the early 80's
 
Can the supercharger be removed so you can use a turbo?

Any turbo car that has a turbo anywhere near big enough for the engine is going to have lag, but there are things you can do to minimize it, like getting the best torque converter you can get, and engine management can run very lean at high TPS% and low rpm while in vacuum, causing high EGTs will help spoolup. Also sequential turbos should do wonders for spoolup, though exhaust routing, and controlling wastegates would be a nightmare IMO. Ball bearing turbos reduce lag also.

I thought I would mention the American turbo cars that I can think of off the top of my head.
Late 70’s turbo trans am
SVO Mustang
Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Conquest
Omni
Other Dodge/Chrysler cars that I know almost nothing about
Grand National/T-Type Regal/GNX
1989 Turbo Trans Am
Corvette (Regular Production Option # B2K)
Syclone/Typhoon
SRT-4
 
The Turbo Trans Am used the same 3.8 that was used in the GN. The Conquest was a Mitsubishi Starion. All very cool cars though, just helping to prove that anything is worthy of being turbocharged or supercharged for that matter.
 
The heads, exhaust, IC, ECM, and I think the turbo were unique to the TTA.

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The TTA is as fast as the GNX, but does not have a GNX engine.
The GNX was tuned by ASC/McLaren Specialty Products.
The TTA was tuned by PAS.
 
:) Sequential Turbo charging seems to be a good way round lag problems - a small blower at low rpms and then a bigger one as engine speed increases for the real power. This gives a much better spread of power and torque. 👍


Paul.
 
Speaking of different types f power had any one tried out the nitros option yet to see how effective it is and if it can be used round cuircts also does the AI use it?
 
MrktMkr1986
I think the reason no one has answered yet is because the Viper and the Vette in the game are too expensive. It may take some time before someone answers this question.
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I don't know about 4. But a Viper was always the 2nd car i bought in 1 2 and 3. I guess I just have to wait and see.
 
You seem shocked, as if 4wd turbo cars are hard to come by.
 
Originally Posted by Acid X

Bah, what kinda person would put a turbo on a muscle car anyway. Jebus. Turbo's are for import cars. My opinion.
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Omologato
Bad Opinion;)
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I second that Omologato! Turbos and super are totally different, turbos were not invented to suit imports, if you want power NOW and continuously you get the super, if you want gobs of peak power you get the turbo, but you get the lag effect, they both do the same thing "compress air" thats it acid x, your engine is a freakin air pump, its very ignorant to say one was made for the other, ever seen a 350z with a super? I wouldnt say that supers were made for muscle cars just because an import had one 👎 :sly:
 
syclone538
Can the supercharger be removed so you can use a turbo?

Any turbo car that has a turbo anywhere near big enough for the engine is going to have lag, but there are things you can do to minimize it, like getting the best torque converter you can get, and engine management can run very lean at high TPS% and low rpm while in vacuum, causing high EGTs will help spoolup. Also sequential turbos should do wonders for spoolup, though exhaust routing, and controlling wastegates would be a nightmare IMO. Ball bearing turbos reduce lag also.

I thought I would mention the American turbo cars that I can think of off the top of my head.
Late 70’s turbo trans am
SVO Mustang
Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Conquest
Omni
Other Dodge/Chrysler cars that I know almost nothing about
Grand National/T-Type Regal/GNX
1989 Turbo Trans Am
Corvette (Regular Production Option # B2K)
Syclone/Typhoon
SRT-4
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There's the Chrysler Daytona too... friend of mine had one: Tipical 80's car :)
 
Acid X
Bah, what kinda person would put a turbo on a muscle car anyway. Jebus. Turbo's are for import cars. My opinion. :)
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Very bad one, man.

MY car is somewhat imported, and I already have money saved up for a SOS Supercharger.
 
GTguy40990
I think this is about American MUSCLE cars though. At least a V8.
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If I never heard the Term "Muscle" when associated with American cars again, it would be too soon. Especially when it's assumed that it has to be a V8. Maybe then my Cadillac could be considered American MUSCLE, because it has a V8 AND RWD!. Well, its a 110hp aluminum 4.1 V8, but still.... AMERICAN MUSCLE!!!
 
Omologato
If I never heard the Term "Muscle" when associated with American cars again, it would be too soon. Especially when it's assumed that it has to be a V8. Maybe then my Cadillac could be considered American MUSCLE, because it has a V8 AND RWD!. Well, its a 110hp aluminum 4.1 V8, but still.... AMERICAN MUSCLE!!!
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i would call it muscle or something like that :sly:
 

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