TCS and ASM

[James1985]

Dose every one turn these of to zero when they play i do because i think it makes the game better and you can go faster

 

[wildcard]

The cars are a lot harder to control with them off, though. I always have them on.

 

[Axe_Gaijin]

Totaly depends on the car.

I set most up for good all round handling rather then fast lap times as most of my game lies in the 2p battle.
Most cars have a 8 ASM 3 TCS but some cars need somethin more just to keep them on the road when fully tuned

 

[SandStorm]

Originally posted by Axe_Gaijin
Totaly depends on the car.

I set most up for good all round handling rather then fast lap times as most of my game lies in the 2p battle.
Most cars have a 8 ASM 3 TCS but some cars need somethin more just to keep them on the road when fully tuned

Crikey, that's a bit overboard! TCS at 5 and ASM at 0 would do for any car in the game...

AutoBacs MR-S at 1 to 3 TCS, no ASM, is fun!

 

[div]

euh..all my cars have 0 asm and 1 tcs except for some beast called the escudo

 

[Sheron]

When I drift I turn all to zero.
Grip racing: TCS: 2-4 (depence on the car). ASM: 0 (when turned on, slows you down)

 

[Duke]

ASM = zero for all cars, no exception. ASM promotes understeer in the worst way.

TCS = zero for most cars, though I set it to 1 for some of the more beastly race cars or built-up street machines.

 

[Quattro]

I think that that sort of stuff is designed for people who can not drive... always off for me

 

[keitshi]

Allways all set to zero. Those gadgets just restrict your driving... in my oppinnion.

 

[the_cobbinator]

I usually set it at 5 and 2 respectively. This works the best for me.

 

[Der Alta]

In recent weeks, I've come to believe that ASM is a learning tool. As we all know, you turn teh fastest times when you hear a minumum amount of tire squeal.

In low to mid powered cars (0-400hp) Run ASM at 3. Then try to drive in such a way as to keep the ASM from kicking in. This method is designed to improve you're cornering, as the only way to keep ASM from kicking in, is to eliminate tire squeal.

I've not fully experimented with this, as I'm still trying to prove the theory.

As for my settings, when racing, ASM & TCS = 0, on cars up to 400hp, then I add TCS =1 or 2.

AO

 

[Duke]

That's a very interesting theory, AO. It honestly hadn't occurred to me to use it that way. I'll have to investigate it a little.
👍

 

[milefile]

ASM always off, TCS set to 1 or 2, mostly to get off the line quickly. In high powered cars it can help out a little in the corners, too.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by Der Alta
In recent weeks, I've come to believe that ASM is a learning tool. As we all know, you turn teh fastest times when you hear a minumum amount of tire squeal.

In low to mid powered cars (0-400hp) Run ASM at 3. Then try to drive in such a way as to keep the ASM from kicking in. This method is designed to improve you're cornering, as the only way to keep ASM from kicking in, is to eliminate tire squeal.

I've not fully experimented with this, as I'm still trying to prove the theory.

As for my settings, when racing, ASM & TCS = 0, on cars up to 400hp, then I add TCS =1 or 2.

AO

But what about drifterzz?

 

[Gil]

ASM off, TCS at 2.
Just enough to keep the the back end from doing the "funky chicken" when I come out of the corners.
(probably with too much throttle.)

 

[Axe_Gaijin]

Seems I made a little mistake. Just been checking some of my cars and the 8 asm is only on a couple of the powerful FR cars.

Believe me you don't want to be witout it if you are racing a friend who likes to use the back end of your car for braking before a corner...

 

[Famine]

I find ASM the most useless in powerful FRs - the system promotes understeer which then, because of the car, rapidly progresses to snap-oversteer.

ASM is always zero for me.

Stock settings for me has TCS at 1. I generally trim it to zero if the car feels more planted - like the recent TORC10 round with the ARTA NSX at Laguna (run with 0/0 ASM/TCS). The stock Speed 12 tends to get a TCS of 2, but nothing else does.

 

[Sage]

Same as just about everybody else - ASM off all the time, and TCS set between 0-2 depending on the car (0 for most cars, 1 for a few that like to light up the rear, and 2 for the Speed 12 and a few others who are a little too tail-happy )

 

[Brett]

Originally posted by Quattro
I think that that sort of stuff is designed for people who can not drive... always off for me

So Formula 1 drivers can't drive? They use traction control and I would sure as hell say they are some pretty good drivers.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
So Formula 1 drivers can't drive?

Yep. They suck.

 

[Brett]

Originally posted by milefile
Yep. They suck.

RRRRRRIGHT . . . you are crazy . . . shows how little you know. It wouldn't matter if they didn't have traction control, they would still be great drivers . . . just their lap times would be alittle slower. I know that not one person on the GTP could go and take one of their cars right now and match one of their times around Monaco with or without traction control.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
I know that not one person on the GTP could go and take one of their cars right now and match one of their times around Monaco with or without traction control.

I could. Easy.

 

[Sage]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
RRRRRRIGHT . . . you are crazy . . . shows how little you know.

Not to ruin milefile's fun, but he was being sarcastic. You honestly think a car enthusiast would consider F1 drivers to be horrible?

 

[milefile]

Aw man. I wanted to see how long I could keep him going. As you know, I'm bored.

 

[Famine]

I could as well.

Bear in mind a few points:
The absolute lap record for Monaco was set by Kimi Raikonnen this year at 1'14.545.
The lap record for GT3's Cote d'Azur is 1'07.279, set by IForceV8 in June.
The Monaco track in GT3 is not the same as the real Monaco circuit.

 

[Sage]

Sorry, Jordan might kick my sorry ass if I don't interfere, ya know!

 

[bengee]

i thought in some f1 races they had to race without driving aided by such technology as traction control... maybe i misheard the announcer but i could have sworn to god that they had it... there are vehicles becuase of there weight and hp... that a traction control system is needed in order to control the car... i think lightweight vehicles with loads of hp also aid from this tech... in real life this tech usually inhibits the driving experience but they make the car a **** load more predictable and in most sprots cars that have serious computer aided driving systems geared toward maintaining traction and not toward safety concerns... the vehicle will perform as fast as without... as long as the driver is skilled... without technology the driver will always have more options... as long as the car stays on the raod...

 

[Famine]

Traction Control was banned in F1 in the early 1990s. It was reinstated - as Launch Control in 1998 (I think?) and made a comeback as full TCS the next season.

TCS will be banned again ( anyone?) - possibly next season, or the season after that.

 

[Brett]

Originally posted by Famine
Traction Control was banned in F1 in the early 1990s. It was reinstated - as Launch Control in 1998 (I think?) and made a comeback as full TCS the next season.

TCS will be banned again ( anyone?) - possibly next season, or the season after that.

Actually Launch Control and Traction Control are totally different. Launch Control controls the amount of wheelspin on the standing start of the race, it is supposed to provide an extremely quick start. As of right now, Renault has the best Launch Control system this year . . . with probably McLaren and Williams pretty much even. Ferrari is rather slow on Launch Control compared to those three. Traction control is the same thing that is in GT3. It controls the amount of power laid down under acceleration to provide for the best possible traction. Both of these were supposed to be banned by Silverstone, which was run just Sunday . . . that didn't happen. I'm pretty sure Launch Control will be gone by next year and then I don't really know about Traction Contol . . . for some reason I don't really see it being banned. But it might be, and the FIA is going to try hard to ban it.

 

[Brett]

Originally posted by bengee
i thought in some f1 races they had to race without driving aided by such technology as traction control... maybe i misheard the announcer but i could have sworn to god that they had it... there are vehicles becuase of there weight and hp... that a traction control system is needed in order to control the car... i think lightweight vehicles with loads of hp also aid from this tech... in real life this tech usually inhibits the driving experience but they make the car a **** load more predictable and in most sprots cars that have serious computer aided driving systems geared toward maintaining traction and not toward safety concerns... the vehicle will perform as fast as without... as long as the driver is skilled... without technology the driver will always have more options... as long as the car stays on the raod...

No, they have been using traction control all year . . . the difference between a road cars and F1 ones versions of traction control are ridiculous. A road cars severly cuts the power from the engine going to the driving wheels, while F1's just takes enough power away to provide traction. In reality though, the driver's in F1 don't need it, but it does make the car easier to drive and also provides faster lap times. Without the traction control, the driver has to control the amount of throttle given to the rear wheels and with it, the computer of the car controls it. Without the traction control, more emphasis is put into the driver's ability. But while using the traction control, the driver also has to have a great entry speed into a corner and know predicate what the traction control will do. If you really want to see the difference in what traction control does for a car and what it doesn't do . . . just compare some of the races from last year from the CART series and this year from the CART series. Last year CART had traction control, this year they don't.