The "Adult" Forum

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I've been wondering for a little time now if GTP shouldn't have an "Adult" forum.

Like it or not, GTP as a community is now far, far beyond that of "just" Gran Turismo and sometimes issues crop up which may be inappropriate for a younger audience. I'm not thinking necessarily of the "my friend is gay" thread Bryce302 came up with earlier today, although you might find some people wouldn't want their kids viewing discussions of homosexuality (for whatever reason).

Maybe there ought to be an "adult" forum for the discussion of "adult" issues - with birthdates being so readily accessible maybe access could be granted upon turning "insert arbitrary "adulthood" age here" (and not at all to those who don't enter their birthdates). Mind you, that'd stop one of the moderating staff from getting in... :D Perhaps there could be some relaxation of certain rules, meant to keep GTP more family-friendly (although not too much).

Certainly I don't mean "Let's have a place on GTP where we can post porn!". This is the internet - there's more than enough of that about, if you want it.

Any thoughts (other than "That's a stupid idea, Famine.")?
 
Is it really our responsibilty to take care of the kid's whose parents aren't doing this job? The internet, television, and the world in general is full of debate regarding "adult" issues--where the "my friend is gay" thread is an example of such an issue. I think that the discussion that occurs on GTP is no more "adult" than what you see on the nightly news. There is no need to "censor" a certain part of GTP, because this would only encourage an escalation in the amount of "inapprapriate" material being posted. It is my feeling that this in not what Jordan wants GTP to be about.
 
I don't regard the "my friend is gay" thread as such a thread. In fact I'm actually struggling to think of a decent example of a thread which would qualify. This alone shows that it's not actually censoring ANY part of GTP, merely adding another facet to it. Don't see it as censorship at all - since it isn't. It's an additional part which would include something we are not currently allowed in order for general accessibility...


The "internet, television and the world in general" is full of porn (the internet especially). Is that a reason to allow it on GTP? Certainly not. Are we molly-coddling kids whose parents aren't doing their job by NOT allowing porn here? No. Extreme example, but you get what I mean. I hope.
 
You can't expect parents to read every website their child has access to before the child. And you can't expect them to realize that a website geared toward race car video games to be talking about "adult subjects".

I still want an option to ignore entire sub-forums. This could be used with default ignores on certain "adult" sub-forums for new users. But they could also un-ignore them.
 
LoudMusic
You can't expect parents to read every website their child has access to before the child. And you can't expect them to realize that a website geared toward race car video games to be talking about "adult subjects".

I still want an option to ignore entire sub-forums. This could be used with default ignores on certain "adult" sub-forums for new users. But they could also un-ignore them.
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Very very true. However, if there isn't anything that is overly censored, why do we need another forum if the topics discussed in it are already being discussed elsewhere.
 
It's a good idea, and with reason 👍

But what about younger members who seem to be more mature than most 18+ members?
And no, not me. Shannon too.
 
Not so sure I'd discuss stuff like S/M techniques (=not porn) and other "adult" stuff here at gtp, or what would you suggest a forum like this should include, Famine? What more could there be that not is illegal than stuff that concerns sexuality or mabye weapons that wouldn't fit into gtp as it is now?
 
I think it would be a good place for us to go and chill while the kids get all exited about GT4.
 
Seeing as I'm not considered an adult yet, I can't help but think it's not a good idea. I know I'm mature enough to handle anything that an adult can, and if a parent really wants to limit a "child" from getting into things they don't approve of, then that is their responsibility.
 
While I have no opinion on the question at hand, I think an "age-filter" based on profile birthdays is unreliable and easily circumvented.
 
ultrabeat
It's a good idea, and with reason 👍

But what about younger members who seem to be more mature than most 18+ members?
And no, not me. Shannon too.
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Nobody likes me?

I'm 14. I mean no, yes, no, I am 21. :dopey:
 
ultrabeat
It's a good idea, and with reason 👍

But what about younger members who seem to be more mature than most 18+ members?
And no, not me. Shannon too.
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You look at their birthday if they have one. If they don't well I don't know there, it should be manditory to have a birthdate if you were to put this idea into effect. But I'm 13, So you don't have to search very far.
 
The idea of the forum is good, but I don't think there should be age restrictions.
Basically, members would use their judgement on what they are posting in there.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
The idea of the forum is good, but I don't think there should be age restrictions.
Basically, members would use their judgement on what they are posting in there.
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Kids get curious after awhile.
 
I'll have to admit I did that but It wasn't to see an adult forum. Plus my parents approve of this site.
 
Yeah basing it on the birthdate would not work as you could easily make yourself out to be 55 years old. And i don't really think GTP needs a forum like that.
 
GTJugend
Not so sure I'd discuss stuff like S/M techniques (=not porn) and other "adult" stuff here at gtp, or what would you suggest a forum like this should include, Famine? What more could there be that not is illegal than stuff that concerns sexuality or mabye weapons that wouldn't fit into gtp as it is now?
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Why does "adult" stuff mean sex/guns/illegality? It's like game-makers whose only concept of making an "adult" game is to put more swearing and naked people in...

The age-based thing was only an idea, made up on the spot, I should add.

To reiterate, adult forum would not be a place to post and talk about porn. There is plenty of that on the internet already (judging by what my spam filter catches every day).
 
Famine
It's like game-makers whose only concept of making an "adult" game is to put more swearing and naked people in...
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You say that as if there is something wrong with that.... :dopey:
 
The only possible way that I could think of implementing an adult forum, would be as an invite only possiblity. When a member is put chosen based on his character he gains access to the forum, when enough hands have shown he is acceptable. However, with 36,000+ members, you can vote in whoever you'd like with enough people.

My first thought is it would encourage a air of elitism. People would begin to wonder "why did he get in, but I didn't?" "What did I do wrong?"

My second thought is that the people that tend to encourage and work with newer members would spend more time in the Adult Forum then other parts of the site. Hence the publicly available site would get over run with younger less civilized people and the moderators would be stuck with the babysitter job.

I made a personal decision to not bring children into this world because I find it very difficult to deal with temper tantrums. I fing it very difficult do deal with whining children. To watch GTPlanet get overrun more than it is now, would simply drive away any members that registered who benefit the site. To be honest, I'm seeing more and more than when people join here and contribute, they learn about other GT sites and soon are off to a new one.

My final thought is perhaps instead of giving the adult forums to the people fit for it, we spend more time taking back and bringing the current ones up to par.

AO
 
Der Alta
The only possible way that I could think of implementing an adult forum, would be as an invite only possiblity. When a member is put chosen based on his character he gains access to the forum, when enough hands have shown he is acceptable. However, with 36,000+ members, you can vote in whoever you'd like with enough people.

My first thought is it would encourage a air of elitism. People would begin to wonder "why did he get in, but I didn't?" "What did I do wrong?"

My second thought is that the people that tend to encourage and work with newer members would spend more time in the Adult Forum then other parts of the site. Hence the publicly available site would get over run with younger less civilized people and the moderators would be stuck with the babysitter job.

I made a personal decision to not bring children into this world because I find it very difficult to deal with temper tantrums. I fing it very difficult do deal with whining children. To watch GTPlanet get overrun more than it is now, would simply drive away any members that registered who benefit the site. To be honest, I'm seeing more and more than when people join here and contribute, they learn about other GT sites and soon are off to a new one.

My final thought is perhaps instead of giving the adult forums to the people fit for it, we spend more time taking back and bringing the current ones up to par.

AO
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Is there any chance you can fart all over my idea less skillfully next time? :D
 
the idea is intriguing, Famine. The only problem I forsee would be age verification. An "adult" forum would be a nice thing to maybe have access to in a couple years when I'm "adult" because it would provide a place where such "adult" issues could be discussed without unnecessary, immature comments.

If the groups function were available, I would suggest that we start a group that only invited the "mature" people into it where flaming would be reduced to a minimum and the forum would maintain a home-ish feel. However, Jordan has disabled the feature, and although I can't see the logic behind his disabling of it, I do support it.
 
Why don't you start a forum labelled 'adult content, GTP and its owner (Jordan) can not be held responsible for anything within this forum'. Although isn't taht part of the terms or use anyway?

Anyway, it would be easy to re-sign up to the site as a 30 year old.
 
Famine
Is there any chance you can fart all over my idea less skillfully next time? :D
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Sheesh, and with all my spelling mistakes? :D

Would you suggest perhaps a separate forum, where the rules and regulations are set to a higher standard. There would be no second or third offense, simply a misstep would warrant a banning. I have no problem with that. A simple statement at the top of the forum stating that each and every person posting in this forum, would be held to a significantly higher degree. any brush with the AUP would warrant a banning.

Soing so would put an enormous job on the moderators who are already being run ragged, so we'd set the rules different, as that forum would be judged upon by your peers. I say that as it would not be a moderator that would call for a banning, but rather a member. The person in question would then be set to a public review. This takes the load off the moderators, and gives all the members involved in the thread where the offense happened, a chance to weigh in. In other words, a trial by jury. Yes, there are kinks to it and it needs to be further flushed out.

I think the age verification is useless in this case, as it's much to easy to circumvent. I think that "A forum for peers, judged by your peers" is appropriate

AO
 
Umm, just wondering, since your a mod Der Alta, is my avatar inappropriate? I just want to know before I get in trouble for it.:)
 
ND4SPD
Umm, just wondering, since your a mod Der Alta, is my avatar inappropriate? I just want to know before I get in trouble for it.:)
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That's easily and more appropriately asked in a PM. Please keep the thread on topic.

AO
 
The AUP is here for two main reasons: to keep the place civil, legal, and decent. I can't really think of many "adult" topics, that when discussed appropriately (homosexuality, whatever) would violate the AUP or the principles I just listed. If parents really don't want their child to read anything like that, then that is their responsibility. I also think it's really best for the site if it is divided in as few ways as possible.
 

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