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Lets talk about Chess, in HOME.
Im trying to find some mates to play chess with, so I made a rather big post over at the official PS forums, and will do same here
This thread can hopefully function as a hints thread and spark some discussion if we have fellow GTP'ers who like chess.
I will start giving some advice for new players who may know how the pieces move, but not really anything more. Today we start with a few basic tips about the opening.
First a few things about me, and a few defenitions, before we get started. I am and older guy 40 years of age. I love video games and also chess. I am not really a good chess player, although I have not found much competition in home chess ( lost 2 games of about 40 games or so). Therefore this thread is working two ways maybe we can find some good players in this thread, and also less skilled players can learn a few tips. So all chess players in HOME can benefit from it.
Also I hope I dont come off as kinda smart guy, because I am really not that good at chess my self, It is just a great passion of mine, and I would love to get some good discusions about chess going.
Ok lets get started.
First you have to understand. You can not win a chessgame by being a good player, or making a good attack, Nor can you win the game in few moves, unless the oponent is really really bad. Most games are like 25 -50 moves for each player, until eather checkmate ocour, or 1 player gives up because his position is hopeless.
The Only way to win a chessgame is when your oponent lose it. ( The losing move always comes, before the winning move) He has to make a mistake, if he dont make any mistakes, and you dont make any mistakes eather, the result of the game is drawn.
The best way is to play patiently trying to cordinate your pieces, and preventing your oponent from doing the same thing. It is the position on the board that determines if you can attack or not. You can not just start a great attack just because you feel like it, if the positions doent warrent it. If you do it, it will lose you the game. So play patient, wait for your oponent to make a mistake will get you a long way to start with.
A few defenitions. Im trying not to go to much in deep details, so these defenitions are a bid widely spoken.
Tactic: A tactic in chess means that eather player will lose material, or will be checkmated. This will in most cases lead to a lost game, even the loss of a single pawn is uasely enough for the other player to win the game by force. There may be circumstances where 1 player would offer a sacrifice for some kind of other advantage. ( Tempo, development, space etc..) But losing a piece, or pawn without any kind of compensation, is most likely a lost game.
Strategy: A strategy in chess, is more dificult for new players to understand, that a game could easely be lost, even if the material is still even. A strategy could be one player trying to trade his bishop for the oponents knight, in a closed game ( a game where the central pawns are blocking each other), so that the pieces have dificulties to manouver. The player left with the knight would have and easyer game, since he could use his knight ( the only pice able to jump over other pieces ) to cause wreck in the other players pieces, since the are not as freely to move.
Phases of a chess game. ( opening, midle game, endgame)
Opening: The opening last from the first move until a player has castled his king, and connected his rooks ( The rooks can see eachother at the 1, or 8 rank ). It is posibel 1 player is out of the opening and is in the middle game, and the other player is still in the opening ( lack of development) This would in most cases mean the player whom is still in the opening versus a oponent whom is fully developed will lose the game, as it is strategly lost.
Middle game: Phase of the game where there are uasely many pieces left, and both players, and trying to outmanouver the other.
End game: Where only a few officers are left, or often only kings and pawns. The combat is mostly about who can first promote a pawn to a Queen ( Or another piece, in some situations he may prefer that )
Today we start with the opening to keep things simple.
So here are the first few tips. These tips are mainly for the opening, but in genral they also play for the other phases of the game. They are not in numeric order. tip 11 is just as important as tip 1.
1. Control the center of the board ( the 4 central squares )
2. Start the game by moving a central pawn to ocopy and gain control over central squares.
3. Only move each of your pieces once. Do not ever move the same piece twice in the opening, unless there is a tactic (Tactic = you will eather lose or win material, or be checkmated) Moving the same piece twice, before you have developed all of your pieces, and put your king to safety, is the first weak move, and it will lose you the game, if the oponent knows what he is doing. Imagine a Football team if it where only 1 player who was runnig around like a mad guy chasing the ball, while the rest of his team where sitting on the back rank doing nothing. Same goes for chess, use all your pieces. A piece that sits on the back rank is uasely not good, if you have a rook in the corner blocked by a pawn in front of it, and another piece by its side, you may as well not have that rook at all, If your openents has developed his pieces, you are practicly playing with a rook less compared to your oponent. So move all those pieces out and capture some space, and control of squares.
4. Castle your king. Castling is the best move on a chess board. It is the only move wich allows you to move 2 pieces ( Rook & King ) in 1 turn. It puts your most important piece (your King) out of danger from your oponent, and it is the first half of getting your rooks connected
5. Develop your Knights before your bishops. It is more easy to find a knights natural squared compared with a bishop. The bishop may be needed to prevent a pin, or you may like to use it to pin your oponents knight your self. You dont know this yet, so move the knights first. Also the bishops already control some squares once you have moved the pawn blocking its diagonal, even if it still sits back at its initial square.
6. Develop your kingside before your Queen side. On the king side you only have to spend 2 moves, ( move knight & bishop, then you are ready to castle your king away to safety. Compared with the Queen side it takes 3 moves to get ready to castle ( Move Queen & Bishop & knight )
7. Develop your pieces to squares that are protected by other pieces, or pawns. If you put your pieces to a square that is undefended ( Or has and infirior number of defenders compared with attackers ) it is verly likely there is a Tactic to win that piece, even it may not look like the oponent could take the piece. He may be able to threaten it with his next move while he also threatening something else. And it will make you lose eather of those pieces, since you can not answer 2 threats with 1 move.So put your pieces, to squares that are protected by your other pieces.
8. Always before you move a piece, ask you self is this piece defending something. If I move this piece it is that oether piece now undefended, and of course also ask your self is the new square for your piece safe.
9. Normally dont move your Queen in the opening. Moving your Queen out will give the oponent and easy target to threaten to capture it, you will have to move it again spending moves with moving the same piece, instead of moving all your pieces, while the oponent he is moving each of his pieces one by one. At some point the oponent will be fully developed ( All his pieces has left the back rank, his king is safe, and his rooks are guarding eachother at the back rank ) while you may still have 2 or more officers sitting at the back rank doing nothing. It will lose you the game if the oponent is half decent.
10. Move the rooks to open files, preferably the two center files, even if they are not open now (the pawns are still blocking the files) They will most likely open up at some point, and then your rooks are standing there on the open file controlling all those central squares.
11. Prevent your oponent from doing all these things. For example you may be able to trade your Queen for the oponents at their respective starting squares, you take his Queen with your Queen, and he has to take back with his King, and now after he moved his king, he is not allowed to castle anymore in that game, preventing him from developing his kingside rook, and also his king may become vulnerable to and attack in the center of the board. Or you may be able to put a bishop on a diagonal controlling the squares his king has to cross to castle, and thereby not allowing him to do so. Or he moved a piece to a square without any protection, could you develop one of your pieces from the backrank to a square where it would threaten his undefended piece. so he would have to spend another move to move it to safety. There are many other examples. Just the general idea is to get your army out before the oponent. because in chess you can not start attacking before your pices are ready. ( Doing so will lose you the game, if your oponent is at the same level as you )
Ok this will be it for now. Feel free to comment. I know some of my hints are a bit widely spoken, but I garanty you that if you are a newcommen to chess playing another newcommer, and you follow these guide lines, you will start winning your games.
I will post some new hints in a few days from now on.
Im trying to find some mates to play chess with, so I made a rather big post over at the official PS forums, and will do same here
This thread can hopefully function as a hints thread and spark some discussion if we have fellow GTP'ers who like chess.
I will start giving some advice for new players who may know how the pieces move, but not really anything more. Today we start with a few basic tips about the opening.
First a few things about me, and a few defenitions, before we get started. I am and older guy 40 years of age. I love video games and also chess. I am not really a good chess player, although I have not found much competition in home chess ( lost 2 games of about 40 games or so). Therefore this thread is working two ways maybe we can find some good players in this thread, and also less skilled players can learn a few tips. So all chess players in HOME can benefit from it.
Also I hope I dont come off as kinda smart guy, because I am really not that good at chess my self, It is just a great passion of mine, and I would love to get some good discusions about chess going.
Ok lets get started.
First you have to understand. You can not win a chessgame by being a good player, or making a good attack, Nor can you win the game in few moves, unless the oponent is really really bad. Most games are like 25 -50 moves for each player, until eather checkmate ocour, or 1 player gives up because his position is hopeless.
The Only way to win a chessgame is when your oponent lose it. ( The losing move always comes, before the winning move) He has to make a mistake, if he dont make any mistakes, and you dont make any mistakes eather, the result of the game is drawn.
The best way is to play patiently trying to cordinate your pieces, and preventing your oponent from doing the same thing. It is the position on the board that determines if you can attack or not. You can not just start a great attack just because you feel like it, if the positions doent warrent it. If you do it, it will lose you the game. So play patient, wait for your oponent to make a mistake will get you a long way to start with.
A few defenitions. Im trying not to go to much in deep details, so these defenitions are a bid widely spoken.
Tactic: A tactic in chess means that eather player will lose material, or will be checkmated. This will in most cases lead to a lost game, even the loss of a single pawn is uasely enough for the other player to win the game by force. There may be circumstances where 1 player would offer a sacrifice for some kind of other advantage. ( Tempo, development, space etc..) But losing a piece, or pawn without any kind of compensation, is most likely a lost game.
Strategy: A strategy in chess, is more dificult for new players to understand, that a game could easely be lost, even if the material is still even. A strategy could be one player trying to trade his bishop for the oponents knight, in a closed game ( a game where the central pawns are blocking each other), so that the pieces have dificulties to manouver. The player left with the knight would have and easyer game, since he could use his knight ( the only pice able to jump over other pieces ) to cause wreck in the other players pieces, since the are not as freely to move.
Phases of a chess game. ( opening, midle game, endgame)
Opening: The opening last from the first move until a player has castled his king, and connected his rooks ( The rooks can see eachother at the 1, or 8 rank ). It is posibel 1 player is out of the opening and is in the middle game, and the other player is still in the opening ( lack of development) This would in most cases mean the player whom is still in the opening versus a oponent whom is fully developed will lose the game, as it is strategly lost.
Middle game: Phase of the game where there are uasely many pieces left, and both players, and trying to outmanouver the other.
End game: Where only a few officers are left, or often only kings and pawns. The combat is mostly about who can first promote a pawn to a Queen ( Or another piece, in some situations he may prefer that )
Today we start with the opening to keep things simple.
So here are the first few tips. These tips are mainly for the opening, but in genral they also play for the other phases of the game. They are not in numeric order. tip 11 is just as important as tip 1.
1. Control the center of the board ( the 4 central squares )
2. Start the game by moving a central pawn to ocopy and gain control over central squares.
3. Only move each of your pieces once. Do not ever move the same piece twice in the opening, unless there is a tactic (Tactic = you will eather lose or win material, or be checkmated) Moving the same piece twice, before you have developed all of your pieces, and put your king to safety, is the first weak move, and it will lose you the game, if the oponent knows what he is doing. Imagine a Football team if it where only 1 player who was runnig around like a mad guy chasing the ball, while the rest of his team where sitting on the back rank doing nothing. Same goes for chess, use all your pieces. A piece that sits on the back rank is uasely not good, if you have a rook in the corner blocked by a pawn in front of it, and another piece by its side, you may as well not have that rook at all, If your openents has developed his pieces, you are practicly playing with a rook less compared to your oponent. So move all those pieces out and capture some space, and control of squares.
4. Castle your king. Castling is the best move on a chess board. It is the only move wich allows you to move 2 pieces ( Rook & King ) in 1 turn. It puts your most important piece (your King) out of danger from your oponent, and it is the first half of getting your rooks connected
5. Develop your Knights before your bishops. It is more easy to find a knights natural squared compared with a bishop. The bishop may be needed to prevent a pin, or you may like to use it to pin your oponents knight your self. You dont know this yet, so move the knights first. Also the bishops already control some squares once you have moved the pawn blocking its diagonal, even if it still sits back at its initial square.
6. Develop your kingside before your Queen side. On the king side you only have to spend 2 moves, ( move knight & bishop, then you are ready to castle your king away to safety. Compared with the Queen side it takes 3 moves to get ready to castle ( Move Queen & Bishop & knight )
7. Develop your pieces to squares that are protected by other pieces, or pawns. If you put your pieces to a square that is undefended ( Or has and infirior number of defenders compared with attackers ) it is verly likely there is a Tactic to win that piece, even it may not look like the oponent could take the piece. He may be able to threaten it with his next move while he also threatening something else. And it will make you lose eather of those pieces, since you can not answer 2 threats with 1 move.So put your pieces, to squares that are protected by your other pieces.
8. Always before you move a piece, ask you self is this piece defending something. If I move this piece it is that oether piece now undefended, and of course also ask your self is the new square for your piece safe.
9. Normally dont move your Queen in the opening. Moving your Queen out will give the oponent and easy target to threaten to capture it, you will have to move it again spending moves with moving the same piece, instead of moving all your pieces, while the oponent he is moving each of his pieces one by one. At some point the oponent will be fully developed ( All his pieces has left the back rank, his king is safe, and his rooks are guarding eachother at the back rank ) while you may still have 2 or more officers sitting at the back rank doing nothing. It will lose you the game if the oponent is half decent.
10. Move the rooks to open files, preferably the two center files, even if they are not open now (the pawns are still blocking the files) They will most likely open up at some point, and then your rooks are standing there on the open file controlling all those central squares.
11. Prevent your oponent from doing all these things. For example you may be able to trade your Queen for the oponents at their respective starting squares, you take his Queen with your Queen, and he has to take back with his King, and now after he moved his king, he is not allowed to castle anymore in that game, preventing him from developing his kingside rook, and also his king may become vulnerable to and attack in the center of the board. Or you may be able to put a bishop on a diagonal controlling the squares his king has to cross to castle, and thereby not allowing him to do so. Or he moved a piece to a square without any protection, could you develop one of your pieces from the backrank to a square where it would threaten his undefended piece. so he would have to spend another move to move it to safety. There are many other examples. Just the general idea is to get your army out before the oponent. because in chess you can not start attacking before your pices are ready. ( Doing so will lose you the game, if your oponent is at the same level as you )
Ok this will be it for now. Feel free to comment. I know some of my hints are a bit widely spoken, but I garanty you that if you are a newcommen to chess playing another newcommer, and you follow these guide lines, you will start winning your games.
I will post some new hints in a few days from now on.
I am NOT arguing with you, infact I was backing up your thread
I didn't read all you had as it mostly was advice, I simply added a new idea.
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