The Crew Motorfest - General Discussion

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Ubisoft is gearing up to poach Chinese players from Forza, especially now that FH6's popularity has tanked. The game has lost 90% of its concurrent players in just three months, the updates have been lackluster, and the community is basically dead.China is Forza's core market, with the largest player base.If there weren't that many Chinese players, they wouldn't have added many Chinese cars to FH5.
While other games like Gran Turismo 7 and The Crew Motorfest are adding popular Chinese vehicles just to attract Chinese players, FH6 barely has any Chinese cars left—just two Wuling models. It’s clear that Chinese brands might be abandoning Forza now, and the game is losing its core player base.

Oh, and don't forget, Tencent is Ubisoft's biggest backer right now.

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Neon fans
Ubisoft is gearing up to poach Chinese players from Forza, especially now that FH6's popularity has tanked. The game has lost 90% of its concurrent players in just three months, the updates have been lackluster, and the community is basically dead.China is Forza's core market, with the largest player base.If there weren't that many Chinese players, they wouldn't have added many Chinese cars to FH5.
While other games like Gran Turismo 7 and The Crew Motorfest are adding popular Chinese vehicles just to attract Chinese players, FH6 barely has any Chinese cars left—just two Wuling models. It’s clear that Chinese brands might be abandoning Forza now, and the game is losing its core player base.

Oh, and don't forget, Tencent is Ubisoft's biggest backer right now.

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That is a massive overstatement and classic doom-posting. First of all, claiming a Forza Horizon game is "dead" because of a drop in concurrent players ignores how live-service games work; player counts naturally fluctuate between seasons, but the global core community is still very much alive.
While China is obviously a huge market, saying it is the only core market for Forza completely ignores its massive European and American player bases. As for Chinese brands "abandoning" Forza, you are reading way too much into standard licensing issues. Car licensing is notoriously complicated and cyclical, not some dramatic corporate boycott. If FH6 only has a couple of Wuling models right now, it is likely just a contract hold-up.
 
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Neon fans
Ubisoft is gearing up to poach Chinese players from Forza, especially now that FH6's popularity has tanked. The game has lost 90% of its concurrent players in just three months, the updates have been lackluster, and the community is basically dead.China is Forza's core market, with the largest player base.If there weren't that many Chinese players, they wouldn't have added many Chinese cars to FH5.
While other games like Gran Turismo 7 and The Crew Motorfest are adding popular Chinese vehicles just to attract Chinese players, FH6 barely has any Chinese cars left—just two Wuling models. It’s clear that Chinese brands might be abandoning Forza now, and the game is losing its core player base.

Oh, and don't forget, Tencent is Ubisoft's biggest backer right now.

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This definitely isn't the case if you check the player count of both games currently you will see Forza still has 3x the players that the crew has. yes it has taken a dip but they are also only steam player not counting Xbox where I'm sure the bigger percentage of players are. Forza is still a much popular series and always will be don't get me wrong I'm not hating on the crew I adore the game but when it comes to actual facts Forza is much more popular even with the not so great updates of late. As for the Chinese brands there is a good chance they will end up in most big racing games it's not just to attract a Chinese audience but china is a huge part of the automotive world now with some mega electric cars I'm sure we will see more in most games going forward 😃.
 
Chinese players are an important market for Forza. FH5 added a significant number of Chinese brands, and that clearly made sense commercially given the growth of China’s automotive industry and player market. GT7 and The Crew Motorfest are also increasingly adding Chinese manufacturers. So when FH6 goes in the opposite direction and currently has very limited Chinese-brand representation, it’s reasonable to question whether the relationship between Forza and Chinese manufacturers has changed.
 
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KILLER2JZ
This definitely isn't the case if you check the player count of both games currently you will see Forza still has 3x the players that the crew has. yes it has taken a dip but they are also only steam player not counting Xbox where I'm sure the bigger percentage of players are. Forza is still a much popular series and always will be don't get me wrong I'm not hating on the crew I adore the game but when it comes to actual facts Forza is much more popular even with the not so great updates of late. As for the Chinese brands there is a good chance they will end up in most big racing games it's not just to attract a Chinese audience but china is a huge part of the automotive world now with some mega electric cars I'm sure we will see more in most games going forward 😃.
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I’m not ignoring Xbox. The problem is that you’re assuming the Xbox player base is still large enough to completely offset the decline elsewhere.
Xbox hardware has been declining, and FH6 currently doesn’t have a PlayStation version. So while Xbox players obviously matter, you can’t simply use “Xbox has more players” to dismiss a major decline in Steam engagement. Steam numbers aren’t the entire picture, but Xbox isn’t an infinite pool of players either.
 
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Neon fans
Chinese players are an important market for Forza. FH5 added a significant number of Chinese brands, and that clearly made sense commercially given the growth of China’s automotive industry and player market. GT7 and The Crew Motorfest are also increasingly adding Chinese manufacturers. So when FH6 goes in the opposite direction and currently has very limited Chinese-brand representation, it’s reasonable to question whether the relationship between Forza and Chinese manufacturers has changed.
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You seem to be forgetting that Forza has 3-4 years more of content to be added and you're just assuming they won't add Chinese manufacturers strange assumptions to make just because the crew added one and gt7 has a few.
 
Neon fans
I’m not ignoring Xbox. The problem is that you’re assuming the Xbox player base is still large enough to completely offset the decline elsewhere.
Xbox hardware has been declining, and FH6 currently doesn’t have a PlayStation version. So while Xbox players obviously matter, you can’t simply use “Xbox has more players” to dismiss a major decline in Steam engagement. Steam numbers aren’t the entire picture, but Xbox isn’t an infinite pool of players either.
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Its a dynamic thing the player count, it will fluctuate depending on updates, sales, availability via ps plus gamepass etc. I bet the main reason for a dip is the game will not have 40% content out the door. Motorfest was bare bones year 1 I got bored at times waiting for playlists to drop. That said my experience of FH5 with a full update cycle and all dlc was I was bored after 7 weeks, it looks great but the gameplay is mediocre and grates very quickly. No need to polarise on games though, more driving games the better. I think Forza needs to plagiarise Motorfest's best bits, and improve from there some more. I hope FH6 is more captivating...
 
Anyway all this Forza talk aside it's great that the elite bundles are now included in the year 4 pass great addition IMO saves me a few millions credits each time they release one now.
 
KILLER2JZ
Anyway all this Forza talk aside it's great that the elite bundles are now included in the year 4 pass great addition IMO saves me a few millions credits each time they release one now.
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I can't really justify £30 on dlc (though I think it's reasonable value for what it includes), however i wanted to support the game for all the content we're getting and year 3 pass is currently 50% discount on my main save (Xbox) so I've just bought it.

Now to find the time for the RC playlist...
 
speeddemon122
why does the m5 from 2011 have the wrong weight
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Thankfully you can stance it. I stanced mine as low as possible while having my tires looking good in terms of track width.
 
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Johnny Caisse
Thankfully you can stance it. I stanced mine as low as possible while having my tires looking good in terms of track width.
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Good thing there are no railroad tracks like in the Crew 2 or you'd look like a doofus who gets hit by a train.
 
Please delete post.
 
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Johnny Caisse
What the...? I don't even drive BMW's in real life... It's just a game.
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It was a reference to potentially getting stuck on the tracks (which isn't possible in the Crew 2 either). I know its a game.
 
Blitz24
It was a reference to potentially getting stuck on the tracks (which isn't possible in the Crew 2 either). I know its a game.
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Argh, I apologize!! Things are going very poorly in my family and I feel awful!! I'll cool down.
 
Well, that custom track for the Road Runner.... somebody has an obsession with the Loews hairpin.
 
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