The Electric Car Challenge (Poll)

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The Electric Car Challenge​

Okay, now we have an official car and track list, I thought perhaps we could start planning a few competitions or challenges.

My idea is to use one of the 11 electric/hybrid cars (that I have counted, if you could find anymore, that would be great) in the game and try to last the longest amount of time without running out of fuel. This could work in many ways, but I'm just suggesting what I think would be the best way to make it as fun and/or realistic as possible.

The cars available to use would be:
Toyota PRIUS '09
Toyota PRIUS G '02
Toyota PRIUS G '03
Honda CR-Z a '10
Honda INSIGHT '99
Honda INSIGHT LS '09
Honda DUALNOTE Concept ‘01 (thanks BreakZero)
Spoon CR-Z (thanks again)
Acura DN-X Concept ‘02 (and again)
Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09
Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08

Now, the first six cars are hybrids, while the Tesla and the i-MiEV are all-electric cars, which could make things different. Also, the Tesla is considerably more powerful than any of the hybrids, which could make it unfair. You could do two seperate races; 6 people on a track is good (hybrids), meanwhile 2 (electric) is not so. However, I'll leave that open to your discussion.

Anywho, the plan would be to have one person driving each car around a track to see who can last the longest fuelwise. This would make a change from all the pedal-thrashing, hard-knuckle racing that would usually occur.
Once members of the GTPlanet community would drive one of the said cars, perhaps decided by a hat draw of a random lotto kind of thing, not sure yet (ideas would be welcome). This race could/would teach people (crashers in particular) how to behave and drive properly, and not overdo things like acceleration, braking and handbraking.

The track the race on could be different in each contest to give it some variety, or be the same to keep things fair (it would allow for leaderboards and/or bragging rights ;)). If the track would be kept the same, it would be logical to have a realistic track, something like SSR7 (a motorway/highway is a good setting) or SSR5; however, it would have to be quite short (each lap) in order to keep the race from being boring, but SSR7 is currently the most realistic option in my opinion (Course Maker aside). It could, however, take place in a City circuit to show the effects of City-wise driving or something.

In order to keep the race fair, there would have to be a few rules set in place.

Some rules which could be enforced:
No slipstreaming (this could be fair or unfair, please comment on what you think. It could also be hard to spot, but if there's a spectator mode this could be possible to watch out for.)
No crashing/bashing into other people
No shortcuts (not easy to take shortcuts on city tracks like the SSRs and Madrid/Rome)
No pit stops (if available)

So, what do you think? Please vote on the poll and/or leave your ideas below.

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RayRoocroft:
I think that the idea should be split into two: one for the fastest/longest enduring car and all one make race eg all Prius. I think that the fact you have to consider fuelling along with speed would make for an interesting race if everyone had the same car.
Like this idea, especially all make race; so far we haven't seen one make races.. :scared:

blasos:
An Eco Challenge would be good:

Starting with 6 litres of fuel:
1 - See who can go the furthest distance with an hour time limit
2 - See who can who has the most fuel remaining after driving 'X' number of laps
This could work out as well. I like number 1 the most, although maybe an hour would be a bit boring.

Fryto:
To make it less boring and get more cars on track, you could make teams of two cars; which gets already 12 cars on track. Should be good fun in a 32 people lobby with the others commenting.
This would be funny. :lol:. I think one make races would be more fair in this situation though.
 
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I think that would be super boring. Doesn't the Prius' tank last like 300mi? It's like an endurance race where you don't have to refuel and driving very slow. I do want to see how long one of the hybrids would last on a tank though.

I think I would probably take part though. I want the Tesla.
 
Well it could also be a lot of fun, depending on which car you get..
The CR-Z is quite sporty, and the i-MiEV is a box waiting to fall over :lol:
 
Mate, the i-miev is an all electric car, don't forget that... we should separate electric from gas, I think the electric ones would only take a single Nordeschleife lap and then... no battery ^^
 
Rossticles
Doesn't the Prius' tank last like 300mi?
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More like 600-1000 miles, depending on how well you hyper-mile.

The only cars really in the running are the 02-03 Prius and the 99 Insight. The 09 Prius is good, but just not as easy to pull 100 mpg out as the 2nd gen.
 
Hideki.Kun
Mate, the i-miev is an all electric car, don't forget that... we should separate electric from gas, I think the electric ones would only take a single Nordeschleife lap and then... no battery ^^
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Oh yeah.. :dunce:
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niky
More like 600-1000 miles, depending on how well you hyper-mile.

The only cars really in the running are the 02-03 Prius and the 99 Insight. The 09 Prius is good, but just not as easy to pull 100 mpg out as the 2nd gen.
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You say that, but it all depends on who's driving. Someone could just put their foot down and waste all their energy (fuel, gas, electricity, spell points, mana, hit points, whatever really ;))
 
If the challenge is to go the furthest possible, those two win.

The new Prius has a bigger tank and better high speed economy... but if you're pootling around at 60 km/h, the second gen is hands down better.

The iMiev's range is pitiful, as is the Tesla's. A Prius driven normally... or maybe near flatout... could likely outlast them.

The CR-Z and 09 Insight aren't anywhere near as economical.

This is all assuming that GT5 models battery life and recharging correctly (previous attempts at the Prius were laughable... the battery never seemed to drain and the fuel tank stayed full... no matter how you drove it).
 
The Tesla holds the world record for distance on a single charge at 313miles. (The entire distance of Australia's Global Green Car Challenge.) As such. I'd use the Telsa, myself. :) Or the Prius.
 
Not very impressive, still, if you're comparing it to a gasoline car. A gasoline subcompact can get over 800 miles on a full tank.

Rossticles
Hyper-mile?
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Method of driving that extends range and lowers fuel consumption dramatically. Some of the more exotic techniques... engine kill switches... fairings... ultra-high tire pressures... advanced pulse-and-glide (you can pulse and glide in any car... but advanced techniques require the kill switch) and engine remapping for ultra-lean burn aren't available... but you can still use speed averaging, regular pulse and glide, coasting down hills, etcetera, in the game.
 
Depending on how many hours we are driving, I'd stick with a hybrid. It's kinda a tortise vs the hare kinda deal. You may smoke everyone untill you run out of juice half trough the race, and have the hybrids catch up some hours later, while you are still pulling an extention cord a few miles to get that precious juice :D
 
Kind of hard to judge how far they will go, because this is a game, not real life. We don't know that the fuel tanks replicate the same size as the real life ones, nor the fuel economy being identical to the real life counterparts. Also, will the hybrid drive systems work as they do in real life, or do these vehicles just run in the game like normal vehicles, with X MPG set as it's range, regardless of whether you stay in electric mode (doubt PD went as far as doing that sort of work).
 
To make it less boring and get more cars on track, you could make teams of two cars; which gets already 12 cars on track. Should be good fun in a 32 people lobby with the others commenting :)
 
Falango
Kind of hard to judge how far they will go, because this is a game, not real life. We don't know that the fuel tanks replicate the same size as the real life ones, nor the fuel economy being identical to the real life counterparts. Also, will the hybrid drive systems work as they do in real life, or do these vehicles just run in the game like normal vehicles, with X MPG set as it's range, regardless of whether you stay in electric mode (doubt PD went as far as doing that sort of work).
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If it's like GT4, the tanks will be 80-ish liter fuel cells, fuel economy will be modelled "realistically" (faster you go, more fuel you use per lap... but with no display showing how much that is, how realistic is anyone's guess) and batteries will magically recharge over time. :D
 
Personally i think this will be a great idea! though i think that the idea should be split into two: one for the fastest/longest enduring car and all one make race eg all Prius. I think that the fact you have to consider fuelling along with speed would make for an interesting race if everyone had the same car :)
 
I think its a great idea too however....

You have missed off a few cars that are hybrids
S Honda DUALNOTE Concept ‘01
P Spoon CR-Z
Acura DN-X Concept ‘02

there might be more they are just off the top of my head.
 
Breakzero
I think its a great idea too however....

You have missed off a few cars that are hybrids
S Honda DUALNOTE Concept ‘01
P Spoon CR-Z
Acura DN-X Concept ‘02

there might be more they are just off the top of my head.
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I thought Spoon skipped on using the built in electronics and tossed out every ounce on those heavy batteries and went with a pure N/A built CR-Z?
 
Pedersen
I thought Spoon skipped on using the built in electronics and tossed out every ounce on those heavy batteries and went with a pure N/A built CR-Z?
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Nope, they've done some modifications to the suspension, exhaust, wheels, basically just fine tuned the car for better handling and response. The hybrid system is still there.
 
juniordee
Nope, they've done some modifications to the suspension, exhaust, wheels, basically just fine tuned the car for better handling and response. The hybrid system is still there.
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Ah right, I stand corrected. :) Sounds fun indeed.
 
so it looks like theres another 3 beefy-ier hybrids to toy with in our hybrid challenge.
oh and you forgot to say if we can mod our hybrids... B-)
 
An Eco Challenge would be good:

Starting with 6 litres of fuel:
1 - See who can go the furthest distance with an hour time limit
2 - See who can who has the most fuel remaining after driving 'X' number of laps
 
Breakzero
I think its a great idea too however....

You have missed off a few cars that are hybrids
S Honda DUALNOTE Concept ‘01
P Spoon CR-Z
Acura DN-X Concept ‘02

there might be more they are just off the top of my head.
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Added. Although I'll/we'll see in game to check I suppose.
 
Track_Veteran
What happens when you run out?
If the game allows you to creep back to the pits with no charge/fuel this might not work.
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That was what I was wondering, although maybe you could kick people who were cheating :lol:
I suppose it would say 'XXXX is pitting in..' or the spectators (if any) could see that person had run out of fuel.
 
"No slipstreaming "

Have you seen any of the cycling road races? There are lots of tactics concerning positioning etc and who goes in front and when - then when to make a break from the pack etc.

Could add an extra element of tactics should slipstreaming be allowed. People could be fighting to not be in front.
 
LucaT
"No slipstreaming "

Have you seen any of the cycling road races? There are lots of tactics concerning positioning etc and who goes in front and when - then when to make a break from the pack etc.

Could add an extra element of tactics should slipstreaming be allowed. People could be fighting to not be in front.
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That's why I put '(could be fair or unfair)' because the player would be using less energy, but it makes sense to have slipstreaming allowed.

Btw, this is the kind of discussion I wanted to happen. :)
 

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