The Future of Ford's SVT Explained...

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M5Power
The point being, the vehicle has a locking gas tank despite Ford heritage.

Which makes it all the stranger. We get all three C-platform cars here. The Mazda3 has a locking cap. The Focus doesn't. The S40 (I'm not sure, but seeing as how neither the S60 or S80 does, I'm guessing) likely doesn't either.

Now the Focus costs about a thousand dollars more, apples to apples. The S40 is in an entirely different price league. Why, oh why does the cheapest car of the three get the locking cap? Lord knows. Flapper lids are just so... Euro.

It's a snob thing, I guess... a way to tell the world: "I dew nought care for zee price of zee gas... I laugh at zee fewls hew siphon mon petrol."

Guess that makes new Hondas "Euro", too... the Fit has a flapper, too... but with the way it drinks gas, a gas-jacker could leave you a teaspoon and you'd still make it to the station.
 
YSSMAN
A few things about M5Power's list:
1) I like the idea of a SVT Crown Vic, but I'm not sure that it would happen given the questionable lifespan that the car has left. Wouldn't that just be a Marauder with a bigger engine? We'll see I suppose, but as of right now, I don't see it happening.
Well, the problem with the Marauder was, Ford said it would be a fast, smokey-burnout car. Instead, it was a pig that was really no faster than the 10 year old Impala SS, despite having "302 BHP." I'm not so sure how well the 5.4 would fit under the hood of a Marquis, though, because the 4.6 Dohc reportedly had problems fitting by itself.
YSSMAN
4) SVT Lightning (F150) should be in the pipes again given the successes of it's predecessors and the positive comments twards the 500 BHP concept version, but given that the Dodge Ram SRT-10 has effectively been canceled as of today and the successor to the Silverado SS hasn't been announced, there might not be a market for it.
Lest you forget, the original SVT Lightning was also the only car in it's class, and until the RAM SRT-10 came out nothing did compete with it (no, the SS Silverado does not count).
YSSMAN
6) Focus SVT is a no-brainer, but it would be dumb to do it without the C1 chassis sitting beneath it.
It wouldn't sell. The S40 T5 AWD would eat it's sales.
 
M5Power
a6m5 is out of his mind, I haven't heard of gas siphoning since the '70s. It certainly doesn't happen around here.

Gas prices have more than doubled (almost tripled) in 4 years. Don't know if you lived through the 70's oil crisis, but the rise in pricing is very similar. There aren't the same scares as before, since people are much more jaded than they were back then (ironically fortunate), but the situation is unsurprisingy familiar: large, inefficient vehicles extremely popular combined with the current oil cash cow in danger of suffering radiation burns.

When it costs $60 to fill up your ill-chosen commuter car, the average guy struggling to make ends meet will go for the easy out more often than you think.
 
If they were able to stuff the 5.4 into a Mustang, and I've seen 5.4 Pickup engines swapped into Vics, it shouldn't be too hard.

I'd rather see the old terminator engine dusted off and used though.
 
Hell, Ford should bring back the Hurricanne engine program and attempt to wipe the floor with GM and Chrysler like they "promised" they could. The rumors were that the 6.0L+ naturally aspirated V8 was putting down numbers well north of 400 BHP, and it would be ready for the Mustang and the truck line as well. The best part was that it was OHV technology, making it cheaper, smaller and lighter than it's predecessors.

...But Ford canceled it as soon as the possibility of gas staying above $2.00 was a reality...
 
Oh yeah, and it was in development for quite some time. Ford realised they were recieving a whooping from GM's LS and Vortec-series engines, and at the time the HEMI models were just starting to appear, proving the OHV system still worked.

...A blunder? I'd say so. They could have done a 24V version of a 4.6L or 5.0L OHV V8...
 
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