The Genova Trial Mountain Challenge - Mid hp & Mid Tires

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great lap D0wNForc3 !!
... board updated - if you keep improving like this the 1'14 and the 1'13 are definitly in reach ! 👍

Found a way to be full throttle and consistent from last chicane to first tunnel ? :)
 
That setup is what I was running on the Pitwork Z. It's more or less a safe starter setup to create a stable handling car. If you're looking to maximize for speed, you're going to have to live dangerously and loosen it up a bit. Which means you're more likely lose it from time to time.:)

You times are moving downward though....quite an improvement for where you were at the start.👍

DFP vs. Dual Shock II

In my opinion the drawback with the wheel vs. the hand controller is mostly in steering time. With all that steering range 'lock to lock' in the DFP, it takes more time to change directions and to make quick steering corrections....with the hand controller it's just a tap of the thumb to steer and correct. It's potentially a much quicker response time.

This is especially advantageous on tight busy tracks that require lots of quick direction changes and corrective steering. On long tracks with flowing smooth turns and long straights......the advantage shifts back to the DFR.

Also on tracks driven with higher powered cars that require feathering the throttle in acceleration zones, the advantage favors the DFR. Of course, your skill in choosing the best lines through turns that reduce the need for excessive steering or braking input and allow more time at full throttle will often make the most impact on improving your times.

That's my observation on the subject.....others may view things differently.:)
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I going to try a few more cars during the week. I'm sure I could pull a few tenth more out of each one if I fine turned my setups and spent more time with each.
 
thx Gt3Emp ... your setup and Sjaak68's helped greatly in the improvement process 👍

there's no doubt I was able to cross the 1'17 boundary only using a better car and a better setup : it's these settings allow me to pull full throttle from last chicane to first tunnel :dopey: ...

Still, comparing with D0wNForc3 lap times ( 1'15.5 without the "full throttle trick" ), I realize I really need to improve on the rest of the track :ouch:

BTW I just edited the first post adding a jpeg for setups ... I hardly imagined formatting some figures would be so difficult inside a forum post ! :scared:

Do let me know if I made mistakes or if you have any suggestion for functional or aesthetic improvement :sly:

May I ask if anyone wants to share a setup for the Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R(JGTC) '03 or the Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra '07 ? ... I was thinking about expanding the setups-board with other cars around the 1'15 mark :)
 
... sorry I'm still having trouble with the car setups board ...
I'll fix that ASAP :)
 
I had to go 'radical' setup to get my Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra to break into the 1:14's

14.425
32.675
57.568
1:14.867

I had to move up "cause all des people getting up on my kool-aid an makin me nervous", Yo! "So, Bam...smoke dat".:dopey:

The 'radical' setup (use dis wit caution, or you end up in da wall)
Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra '03
14.0/17.0
60/67
3/5
8/8
3.0/1.3
0/+2
4/6
Downforce=50/70
Driver Aids=0/0/0
Gears:
3.961
2.621
1.894
1.390
1.117
.950
4.003-Axle
Limited-slip =15/20/10
Brake=3/4

"So, don't say I ain't gay you nutin', 'B'....peace out".
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I'll be back later with some other stuff....."Dis' ain't over!"
 
1'15.337 with the pitwork z.
ever improving, but cant get any lower, im putting the car in the 1.15 like every lap, i just dont know where else to find speed. dangit.
 
1'14.788 with the pitwork z. i took your setting for the supra gt3emperor. and added -2 of front toe angle and the thing is a rocket around the track. there is alot more time to be had with these settings. im sure i can better this time
 

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Hey D0wNForc3 - Congrats on breaking into the 1'14 zone !! 👍
truly impressive ! :bowdown: and thx for the tip on the supra-to-Z setup :)

"Dis' ain't over!"

Great lap GT3Emp !! :bowdown:(again)
I'm starting to wander you might be after that crown again :D
Thx for the Supra setup 👍 I'll post it ASAP and try it as soon as I gather 1.3M credits :)
 
i think im giving up, ive done to many laps of this track in the last couple of days and im all trial mountained out. congrats on the 1'13 stidriver. your name wouldnt happen to be lewis would it?
anywho, someone needs to put up another challenge for another track in similar or the same cars. im hankering for some more driving.................... just not on trial mountain.
 
Last night I heard someone talking about Deep Forest in Reverse ...
Funny and interesting track, and I might guess the seniors around here are figuring out the car rules :)
Still it may take a little time before this becomes a new "Genova challenge" ...
 
Hey gz, great setup chart....you are doing an excellent job on managing your challenge.

Looks like Downforc3 is on a mission. Good running Downforc3....I'm glad I was able to help with your setup, although I was trying to move my Woodone Tom's Supra up the leaderboard to get it out of your way. I saw you coming. I may have to move my Nissan Pitwork out of your way now. Excellent run!👍

That's 8 cars in the sub-1:15's....when I first came to this challenge, I didn't expect to break out of the 1:17's.

I would like to run the two cars I don't have, the Wedssport Celica and the Xanavi Nismo GT-R, to see what they'll do.
 
Hey, gz.....On your setup chart, my setup data for the Nissan Motul Pitwork Z is under Stidrivers name and car picture. You might want to correct that when you can.:)
 
heres my settings if u wants them, there basically the supra settings.
14.0/17.0
60/67
3/5
8/8
3.0/1.5
-2/+1
4/6
brakes 3/4
LSD 15/20/10
downforce 50/70
gears, default 9
509hp
would anybody be interested in a tuner challenge at el capitan in gt free run mode??? say u can use any car thats not a race car, and u must use r3 tyres. all settups are allowed but no nos and all cars must be under 600hp.
i have had a go with the tommy kaira zzII and i got it in the 1'35.xxx's, but as we seem to have saw, there is always room for improvement. anyone wanna have a stab??? give me a time to chase?
if people wanna take to this challenge i dont mind taking over the leader board, just do it like this leaderboard has been done, or if someone wants to take charge and put it in the main room and take over thats fine by me, i would really like to get some challenges going though, cant be bothered running the ring.
 
hi all
thx Gt3Emp, I hope you all enjoyed the challenge :)
thx D0wNForc3 for the setup 👍

sorry for the confusion on the setup board, I'll correct it and add D0wNForc3's data ASAP, which - I fear - I won't be possible for a couple of days :(

hey D0wNForc3, El Capitan sound like a great challenge ... here in Genova the seniors are setting for the last stabs on Trial Mountain, but after that I think a no-racecar challenge will definitly be welcome 👍
 
kick @ss, well i have done maybe 40 laps of this track now with the tommy kaira, and its down to 1'33.xxx now. i didnt realise the tommy kaira was a 4wd till just today, so ima have to get rid of it and find me a FR or MR car to have a serious stab at this, i hate the 4wd's. rx-7 spirit r type a may be the way to go i think. anywho, when u are all ready to have a go we can get this underway. spose i may aswell try better the trial mountain time if i can. hopefully i can find some more speed.
 
also, i feel sorry for mr p, he is so close to the 1'13's that he must have such a bitter taste in his mouth, i know i would.
if it was me that did that lap i would of been so happy, and so frustrated all at the same time.
 
hi all - I'm having a little trouble with first post on this thread :ouch:
I only retrive an error page and can't update the setup board :(
Anyway here is the new one :

genovachallenge3og6.jpg


hey D0wNForc3 : I also have a little preference on the RX-7 Spirit R :) I'll definitly take a drive with it around El Capitan ... it seems the Genova Challenge is heading for some reflection time, as here in Italy we need to find more speed on the circuit, and manage to get into the 1'14 zone :dopey:

I'd like to thank one more time all partecipants to this challenge, you brought great racing and knowledge to our town :bowdown: 👍
I hope one day someone rising from these lands may get back that crown :sly:
 
hey gz, good work cheif,but u missed my toe angle, i got -2 on the front and +1 on the back.
u gettin in the suzuka challenge, once i get my playstation and my wheel and peddals back i shall be in it. cant wait.
also, if u find a suspension settin for the rx7 that doesnt have it flying over the top of the hill after that tunnel at el cap id much appreciate the info, my car is airborn everytime and i cant seem to find a fast way around. dangit.
 
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