The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%
  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%
  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%
  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 417 28.2%
  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%

  • Total voters
    1,477
No idea, but interesting to find out what could happen...
Sounds like a golden opportunity for Go Pro Internet notoriety. I can think of quite a few interesting scenarios I'd like to see played out:sly:
 
They would await for police to arrive, the person would either leave or be arrested for disturbing the peace or similar. Law suits to follow. That's my guess anyway.
 
Northern Ireland minister Jim Wells has resigned after allegedly being so offensive to a lesbian couple whose house he visited while canvassing that the police were informed.

Earlier in the week he infamously stated at hustings that children of same-sex relationships were far more likely to be abused.

Good riddance.

EDIT: As @Johnnypenso quite rightly pointed out; Jim Wells has resigned for other reasons (in order to take care of his ailing wife). He's terribly sorry (of course) that his recent behaviour might have caused offence :D
 
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Northern Ireland minister Jim Wells has resigned after allegedly being so offensive to a lesbian couple whose house he visited while canvassing that the police were informed.

Earlier in the week he infamously stated at hustings that children of same-sex relationships were far more likely to be abused.

Good riddance.
Full disclosure: You failed to mention that his wife is fighting for her life after two successive strokes and major heart surgery and that the official reason for his voluntary leaving is to take care of his wife.
 
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Wait, police were called because of this? If I am reading that correctly, it sounds more likely that anything remotely close to being illegal was in his repeated attempts to apologize. If that is worthy of police intervention then Northern Ireland must be out of real problems.
 
Wait, police were called because of this? If I am reading that correctly, it sounds more likely that anything remotely close to being illegal was in his repeated attempts to apologize. If that is worthy of police intervention then Northern Ireland must be out of real problems.

Who would you report it to? Hardly worth privately paying a solicitor to investigate. As an elected MP he made homophobic comments to a person/couple that he'd approached under his own steam. You think that's okay or that only bigger crimes should be looked at?
 
Who would you report it to? Hardly worth privately paying a solicitor to investigate. As an elected MP he made homophobic comments to a person/couple that he'd approached under his own steam. You think that's okay or that only bigger crimes should be looked at?
It's a crime to state an opinion that offends someone?
 
This is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Of course it is - we put people in prison for telling jokes on Twitter!
I don't know whether I am more bothered by the fact that this is possibly considered a legitimate legal complaint by law or that someone actually called the police over this. I only call the police when there is physical violence or theft.
 
It's a crime to state an opinion that offends someone?

It can be but in this case it's more complicated, he was in public pay and as part of the NI assembly the duty for investigation falls to the police when there's no Parliament in sitting. The UK as a whole is currently without governance except for HRH. I can't imagine she'd be too popular if she turned up in parts NI to conduct anything at all. The police haven't stated at this time that they've detected a criminal offence, their duty of investigation stands nonetheless.
 
I don't know whether I am more bothered by the fact that this is possibly considered a legitimate legal complaint by law or that someone actually called the police over this. I only call the police when there is physical violence or theft.
Personally I find it highly offensive when people find the comments of idiots to be so offensive that they call for them to be prosecuted.

Since it turns out that "being a rational human being" isn't a 'protected characteristic' under discrimination legislation, it doesn't matter how offensive I find their comments of being offensive and apparently there's joss all I can do about these morons.
 
It can be but in this case it's more complicated, he was in public pay and as part of the NI assembly the duty for investigation falls to the police when there's no Parliament in sitting. The UK as a whole is currently without governance except for HRH. I can't imagine she'd be too popular if she turned up in parts NI to conduct anything at all. The police haven't stated at this time that they've detected a criminal offence, their duty of investigation stands nonetheless.
My issue isn't exactly who she complained to, but the fact that this is worthy of a criminal complaint and investigation at all. If she had called Parliament to have him investigated I would have the same trouble wrapping my head around it.

If I had a legal complaint every time someone said something offensive to me about something I couldn't control half my high school would have been under criminal complaint.

Is that a direct reference to the noted learning difficulties of the complainant? If we remove access-to-law on the basis of aptitude tests then we'd surely have a problem.
Infer much? He also referred to the person who made the offensive comment as an idiot. You didn't ask him if that was in reference to his position as a politician. And in context, I believe it is pretty obvious that it was their actions that made him consider them morons.

And I don't see where he said anything about access to law based on aptitude.
 
The U.S. Supreme Court was under way today with 2.5 hours of arguing whether The Constitution guarantees same sex marriage or not. There are 2 questions presented; first if bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee are valid, second if the same states must recognize same sex marriage from across state lines. The decisions will ultimately affect all the states and the 4 cases are being argued under Obergefell v. Hodges. So far the Justices are presented as deeply divided, here are the full transcripts if you want to see where your favorite justices stand.

First question. Second question.

And the 14th Amendment.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
The U.S. Supreme Court was under way today with 2.5 hours of arguing whether The Constitution guarantees same sex marriage or not. There are 2 questions presented; first if bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee are valid, second if the same states must recognize same sex marriage from across state lines. The decisions will ultimately affect all the states and the 4 cases are being argued under Obergefell v. Hodges. So far the Justices are presented as deeply divided, here are the full transcripts if you want to see where your favorite justices stand.

First question. Second question.

And the 14th Amendment.
What is the makeup of the court at this point, liberal vs. conservative?
 
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