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This thing puts up videogame-style numbers and you guys want more. I'm gonna call "fast enough" on this one.
It doesn't put out video game numbers around a circuit.
This thing puts up videogame-style numbers and you guys want more. I'm gonna call "fast enough" on this one.
It actually outputs 3,000 horsepower as noted in National Geo.'s documentary on it. The car itself, as I said before, eats up 2,000 horsepower.Well, come on. That many cylinders and those many litres, four turbo chargers and we only get 1200HP?
Even RB26's can output 1000 horses with 6 cylinders![]()
It actually outputs 3,000 horsepower as noted in National Geo.'s documentary on it. The car itself, as I said before, eats up 2,000 horsepower.
It doesn't put out video game numbers around a circuit.I mean it sure is pretty quick, but just imagine a lightweight Veyron with really great handling!
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Wouldn't really make any difference. I don't think weight impacts on top speed much. It would certainly accelerate quicker and change direction better though.If only there were one overly wealthy emirate out there who would strip their Veyron of ~500kg unsprung weight and test its maximum speed. It will probably never happen, alas.![]()
Gordon MurrayThe most pointless exercise on the planet has got to be this four-wheel-drive thousand-horsepower Bugatti. I think it's incredibly childish this thing people have about just one elementtop speed or standing kilometre or 060. It's about as narrow minded as you can get as a car designer to pick on one element. It's like saying we're going to beat the original Mini because we're going to make a car 10mph faster on its top speedbut it's two foot longer and 200 kilos heavier. That's not car designingthat just reeks of a company who are paranoid...
I don't....
I'm not following what you're saying there. That's basically saying you don't like any car for any reason - period.
Even though it's actually a fairly compact car (shorter than an F430 and only 10cm longer than an Audi TT) it's still got a 16cyl quad turbo engine and a 7 speed DSG AWD transmission with ten radiators and all the fluid systems like that require.
I don't know how lightweight the car could go. You could strip the interior to Elise levels but i doubt you'd manage to get it below 1800kgs. Which isn't lightweight by any stretch of the imagination.
This thing puts up videogame-style numbers and you guys want more. I'm gonna call "fast enough" on this one.
I've never liked the Veyron. Gordon Murray's (original) comment about the Veyron sums up my opinion of the car to a t (or in Bugatti's case, two "t"s):
It doesn't put out video game numbers around a circuit.I mean it sure is pretty quick, but just imagine a lightweight Veyron with really great handling!
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That's not what I said. The Veyron SS is looking to be perfect. The previous model though didn't impress me so much as it didn't well and truly outdo everything else out there. Also it was way too heavy and I don't care what amount of money you pour into a cars suspension and chassis it can't make it anywhere near as good as making the car lighter would. So I really hope this car is lighter so that it can handle a bit better rather than just rely on long straights to make up time at a track.
"...the Veyron stands above them all, because wheras they all have their small victories in small departments, the Veyron renders all of those slightly irrelevant because it does everything better than every other car. It's faster. It stops better. It goes round corners better"
Hence why I said "original": his original opinion of the Veyron matches my opinion of the car perfectly. Sure he thinks differently of the car now, having actually driven it, but it doesn't mean his initial opinion is now worthless.You can't really use that argument considering Murray took all of it back after test driving the original Veyron.
If I remember right, Nat. quoted that the weight of the car is what takes a big toll. But, the engine dyno'd by itself is amazing.Eats up? Like the heat all engines output?
It's not worthless, but it's obvious he judged too quickly on what he thought it was. As far as I've heard from the Dallas owner, it's the simplicity of driving it is what makes it so amazing.Hence why I said "original": his original opinion of the Veyron matches my opinion of the car perfectly. Sure he thinks differently of the car now, having actually driven it, but it doesn't mean his initial opinion is now worthless.
thats just stupid to say that the bugatti "goes around corners better."! The facts are that the cars is a bit "slow" around a track comparing to other cars!
The facts are that the car is a bit """""""""""slow*""""""""""" around a track comparing to other cars!
*The term slow here is used only when compared to some of the fastest cars on the planet.
Even then the standard Veyron was still quicker than the Enzo and MC12 and only half a second off the Zonda F round the Top Gear track. Hardly a slouch. I'd imagine the track performace of the SS being very similar to the standard Veyron. The extra power seems to be more use for the higher speed acceleration and it's top speed.
Where does it say that? It sounds like the SS is just a souped up version made to send the Veyron off. It's not a one-off customer car.Wonder if it counts as a production record if the car has been modified to do it? (shades of McLaren)
Sure... it was otherwise stock, but if customer cars are limited, then it's not the same, right?
Interesting. Amazing... but only because it's such a huge, heavy and relatively reliable vehicle... and street-legal.
Where does it say that? It sounds like the SS is just a souped up version made to send the Veyron off. It's not a one-off customer car.
The "base" (Veryon has a "base" model nowlol. So...the original was limited to 256mph or something because it wasn't stable at speeds about 260. This one is stable about 260, but it's tires could explode.Well, at least they made it more stable...now to invent a tire that can withstand 300mph speeds. You know VW is going to continue to work on this car until it can reach the speed it was originally built to hit.
270mph?!! Thats just mind blowing(if you have the balls)
! About the video... thats just stupid to say that the bugatti "goes around corners better."! The facts are that the cars is a bit "slow" around a track comparing to other cars! Dont see why he said that... maybe to get an extra free run from the owner
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Yes, congratulations for misunderstanding him entirely. As others have pointed out, the Veyron is still immensely quick around a circuit considering how heavy it is, often half as much again on top of the weight of other supercars. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? R35 GTR ring any bells?
Given that Chris has personally driven every one of those cars in the video (did you even watch it?...), I'm inclined to trust his opinion.
I know the car is heavy, but still gets beaten by many on the track... I know it does a good job, but still it lacks performance for the stupidly price to pay.
Amateur drives cars quickly/ that makes him an Expert... I see your point 💡