The next-gen MX-5 Miata thread

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Cale
So 165hp for the 2.0L
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If it did, it would be notably quicker than the NC which is a few hundred pounds heavier. I personally think it needs at least as much power as the NC out of principle. If it doesn't perform at least as well as the BRZFRS and get better gas mileage, it's going to be a hard sell to the same type of people.
 
So apparently Americans will only get the MX-5 with the 2.0L while others will have a choice between the 1.5L or 2.0L elsewhere. Or maybe just the 1.5, I dunno.
 
Jalopnik is saying 155 BHP, 148 lb/ft for the 2.0L here in the land of the free... Pretty much exactly in line with the engine as it appears elsewhere. Reading how well the car drives, C/D says its great, and so does MT, which is about as surprising as saying, "Bread tastes good." What surprises me is how quick they're estimating the 1.5L to be, which probably means the US-spec 2.0L will haul just as well as the current car, if not better. Keeping it under 2400 lbs helps.

What gets me is how everyone is saying it drives just like the original, and that has me very excited. Comfortable ride, with limits that are fun to poke at, and mods that'll help you get the most out of the chassis - this is arguably a lot more exciting than the Toyobaru twins could ever be. Plus, the roof comes off. Suck it, Toyota.
 
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/a24888/first-drive-2016-mazda-mx5-miata/

Jack Baruth has very nice things to say about it, and he's the picky sort.

Then again, he's driven a Camry and a 300C full-tilt (meaning curb-hopping at triple digit speeds) on the racetrack, so he's the eccentric sort, too.

I find it interesting that they say they've rearranged the rack geometry for more consistent feel... not that it was terribly lacking after they fixed everything on the NC facelift. And glad to know they're sticking with the rack mounted EPAS motor... which is just plain better than the way most everyone else does it.

He likes it better than the NC... and he's driven the NC against the 86 on track... signs seem good, so far.

Over seven might be optimistic. I'd say, if it's really 130 hp, about 8+ for the 130 hp car would be right.
 
YSSMAN
Jalopnik is saying 155 BHP, 148 lb/ft for the 2.0L here in the land of the free... Pretty much exactly in line with the engine as it appears elsewhere. Reading how well the car drives, C/D says its great, and so does MT, which is about as surprising as saying, "Bread tastes good." What surprises me is how quick they're estimating the 1.5L to be, which probably means the US-spec 2.0L will haul just as well as the current car, if not better. Keeping it under 2400 lbs helps.

What gets me is how everyone is saying it drives just like the original, and that has me very excited. Comfortable ride, with limits that are fun to poke at, and mods that'll help you get the most out of the chassis - this is arguably a lot more exciting than the Toyobaru twins could ever be. Plus, the roof comes off. Suck it, Toyota.
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niky
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/a24888/first-drive-2016-mazda-mx5-miata/

Jack Baruth has very nice things to say about it, and he's the picky sort.

Then again, he's driven a Camry and a 300C full-tilt (meaning curb-hopping at triple digit speeds) on the racetrack, so he's the eccentric sort, too.

I find it interesting that they say they've rearranged the rack geometry for more consistent feel... not that it was terribly lacking after they fixed everything on the NC facelift. And glad to know they're sticking with the rack mounted EPAS motor... which is just plain better than the way most everyone else does it.

He likes it better than the NC... and he's driven the NC against the 86 on track... signs seem good, so far.

Over seven might be optimistic. I'd say, if it's really 130 hp, about 8+ for the 130 hp car would be right.
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That guy says the US will only get the 2.0 so the 1.5's output is a non-issue for us. Nice!
 
As a Mk1 owner, it's great to hear you guys hoping and wanting the ND to be comparable to the NA. :D

Instead of the buying the new car, you could always save yourself some money and buy a low mileage NA instead. :);)
 
numbnuts70
As a Mk1 owner, it's great to hear you guys hoping and wanting the ND to be comparable to the NA. :D

Instead of the buying the new car, you could always save yourself some money and buy a low mileage NA instead. :);)
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That will come when we get a feel for how the ND drives.
 
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Australia gets both engines, but no pricing as yet. though speculation is low to mid $30,000s for the 1.5 and under $40000 for the 2.0. I might as well go and buy an XB Falcon GT for those prices.
 
After 3 generations of normal aspiration they should've at least turbocharged/supercharged a super lightweight engine.

With todays technology, they could have used a 1.0/1.2L engine and achieved 150bhp+ and slashed weight and satisfied the aftermarket tuning potential.

What retail price are they going to charge for these?
 
Weight shaving with a turbo 1.0 is an iffy proposition.

If you want a small motor to cope with boost, you have to make it robust. Ford's 1.0 uses an iron block. Add the turbocharger assembly and intercooler piping, and that doesn't represent all that much in terms of weights savings compared to an aluminum, naturally aspirated 1.5. In fact, looking through the local spec sheets, the 1.0T Fiesta is about 6 kg heavier than the 1.5.

And a naturally aspirated engine will be more responsive to the throttle, as well.

Not that these issues can't be overcome, but Mazda was obviously aiming for a certain feel with this car. Light weight, high revving and responsive, progressive. It's a car built to entertain rather than to go fast.

Thank goodness for that.
 
sems4arsenal
I know the MX-5 isn't really known for it's power but 155 from the 2.0 is a bit bare minimum.
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It'll probably be more. Those estimates come from what the 2.0 makes in other cars with a lower redline and different headers, exhaust, and intake. The 1.5 makes 100hp in all other configurations, but 130hp in the MX-5. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2.0 around 165hp.
 
there are no negatives with this car. even in regards to pricing. its a roasdter for one. a modern reliable one. by a proven builder of performance cars. the MX5 wont disappoint to those that have driven any model at one point in time.

Me personally, I have driven a '90 NA and NC soft top and PRHT. There are nothing like the MX% unless you go back 30 years. In every day driving and not having to contend with snow at any point during the year, it wins for me. Sydney Motorsport Park is 15 minutes away for track days and Mount Panorama about 2 hours away for a good drive too open it up. My daily average speed will be well under 70km/h. so the 1.5 is perfect or me. It'll just come down to how much weight difference is between the 1.5 & 2.0.

And Im sure the aftermarket will try to make a tuned 1.5 faster than a 2.0 for less than the cost of a 2.0.
 

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