The "No-Tuning" Club

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Zuel
GT6 is in two parts just as in GT5 a part for the gamer driver and a part for the core drivers, though you'll find core driver following gamer mind set just to compete.
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I've allways felt this way! stock cars give you much more enjoyment. wheels n transmission in case - otherwise all the cars are kind of the same to drive.
 
This would be fine if we could RM every car....which we should be able to. I want race cars. In leu of them a I will tune a car as close as I can. I usually keep the super car types close to 600 HP but so suspension tuning. My perfect game would have an RM dir every car.
 
I keep most cars stock — especially special cars that I feel I want to enjoy stock. This is just a personal preference and judgement on a car by car basis. Generally most exotics and all classics are kept stock. It's really fun for me to keep them and drive them that way, and I will just use a faster car if I want something faster. In general, the only thing I change on them is tires, and then I run the crappiest tire I can win with (so sometimes I downgrade). A fully modded McLaren F1 with racing soft tires is probably the last thing you'd find in my garage.

If I tune something, it's generally cars that I find less special or are tuned frequently in real life. Examples are popular American V8's like the Corvette or the Mustang, or cheaper cars like a VW GTI (which I have in real life tuned to 275hp) or a Honda Civic or a Lotus Elise. Even then, I still don't tune that often.
 
In GT5's Arcade Mode, I would have to buy the racing transmission for each car to tune it for each track to be able to run with the AI, but other than that, I always kept them stock.
 
Tired Tyres
Stock is best. Living with a cars weak areas rather than tuning them out is much more satisfying to me.

I do also like to tune, but I keep that for the Fit so I can make it a giant killer. :)
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Comparing Top Gear's lap with the FXX to the car we have in GT6, ours should be renamed "Plow King" because drives like a snow plow (stock). The Veyron (stock) is much the same. It drives like a 5.0 Mustang with super skinny tires on the front and a drag racing setup. The car doesn't like to turn.

I don't tune much because I will only ruin the car more if I start hammering at suspension springs and dampers and whatnot. Things like performance air filters are only $50 - $100 depending on your real car.

There are cars IRL, such as the GTR, that have active suspension adjustments controlled by the computer., even "Launch Control". Or different suspension modes selectable by the driver. PD didn't model these at all.

I like the premiss of this thread, please don't get me wrong.
 
I'm actually with you about stock cars. But at the same time you can fine-tune your beloved car that you always want to drive. It's like learning your favourite car even more! Good that we have a choice.

Another thing I want to mention because so many guys are saying that stock cars are mostly not for racing but it's all about your current approach to the game. For example if you pretend that you are newbie driver at your very beginning of your carrier, very poor, but talented, and you have only your good-old Supra (maybe even S2000) you have to win with what you have. 👍

I always thought that pretending like you are really in game, and behave like that is best starting point. You want to be yourself, then you can do whatever you want. It's about imagination really.
Pretending that you are different person in different situation is a step further, because other way you doing same things over and over again....

Sorry if I bored you! It's my philosophy and main approach to any game! :sly:
 
Love the stocks.. including the stock tires that come with them.

Good thing in GT that each car has its own character
 
100% agree. Just love putting most of them, rivals to be precise, going head to head to see which is better stock.
Just an oil change and sometimes a small tyre upgrade and thats it. No better way to enjoy what manufacturers build stock standard.
 
I usually have one stock car for every road car model, because I like to compare them in their stock form. Then I buy another model for online racing if I need, and modify them in order to match various PP limits.
 
I like to keep my cars stock, too. I even try to not upgrade the tyres (except for race cars) unless I really have to to win a certain event. But had to do that only once, and after that I fitted back the stock tyres.

I used to tune the living sh** out of my cars, but there was a point in GT5 where I just wanted to feel the cars how there were meant to be.
 
Amen my friend. Count me in.

All I really want to do is to race online with my stock cars. So i enter the room with accordint PP´s, just to find and be destroyed by all kinds of pimped Clios, Golf´s and so on.. I hate that.

Anyone remember that wonderful online event in GT5 Prologue, where you had the GTR, F430 and Corvette Z06, racing against each other on High Speed Ring? That was the most fun i´ve ever had in a GT game..close, fun and intense racing because nobody had maxed out Clio on racing soft´s which, while the same PP as the Z06 for exhample, was still way faster.
 
There is no right and wrong here. Just personal preference.

Me, I like modifying cars. So did my dad. My mom worked in the office of my grandfathers welding shop where he got some work done on his '32 Ford in 1950. So it's in my blood. Please don't tell me I am wrong for it.
 
I used to like both stock & tuned in GT5 Prologue. However, when GT5 came out with that horrible transmission whine sound that PD started using (which we still have in GT6) I stopped all tuning. Shuffle was a great way to enjoy a wide variety of stock cars, I hope they bring it back, & sort out the lag & other issues with online rooms.

I used to run a stock car series here on GT Planet back in 2010, we had a lot of fun. I hope your club works out for you, but I think you'll have more joy if you ask a mod to move it to the Clubs & Leagues forum.
 
I personally like running stock cars. But with that said, all of the muscle cars are geared to low and top out too quickly making tranny updrades a must.

And mid engine cars like the F40 or GT 40 have got to have poor physics programmed to them. There is no way production based race cars should handle in such ways for general public use.
 
I partially agree.
Cars are made to a complete compromise for cost and drivability on roads and tracks especially everyday ordinary cars.
So i dont mind fettling with exhausts and suspension and basic mods.
Especially is its Japanese ill tune it up with the basics.
Even my real life Prelude is tunned quite far bar a full weight reduction and supercharged which GT seems to think cant be supercharged.

But for pure challenge due to poor AI i love takingout stock cars with only a tyre change and maybe a racing exhaust to meaten up the vacuum cleaner engine. Why oh why do we have a sports cat option on pre 1991 cars.


But stockish cars FTW!
 
Great thread. I like to keep my cars stock as well. The only thing I'll usually change is tires. Though I will tune the suspension of race cars and I do sometimes buy a duplicate stick car to tune into a monster. I really don't like the idea of slapping a turbo on to an LMP. I wish PD actually gave realistic tuning options for the car that your driving. It makes no sense that 60's era Ferrari's and Jags can have traction control or stability management turned on.
 
I tend to do the most minor of tweaks.

ABS and Traction Control can go-
I then tend to alter the brake bias relative to the tyres I have fitted.

Custom Gearbox used to be a must for (Stock) American Muscle cars.

If you have a race where your car is too fast or too slow for an event you can swap tyres about and still keep the "factory fresh" feel.

I must admit to some Exhaust Pipe swaps just to find better sounds.
 
Totally agree with OP. I only upgrade cars that are big old muscle cars that were meant to get upgrades: ie. I threw a supercharger on the Hudson. Or like the RUF cars that are essentially tuned Porsches. All of my Ferraris Lambos and other work of art cars I leave stock.
 
gibo155
This is why i liked shuffle racing in gt5 . Pure standard cars no handicaps winning was all down to the drivers skill, which made winning that much more fun

Standard all the way
ps: bring back shuffle
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Except when you were the unfortunate one that got the V8 Vantage '99 while everyone else got GTRs and Corvettes.
Then it's just unfair. :lol:
 
Tuning companys in real life have experienced people setting up the cars and testing. And even then sometimes they really mess it up. Adding in more power does indeed destroy a car sometimes (as some topgear tests ending every corner backwards in smoke will tell you).

I agree with what the OP is saying. You guys are not really understanding his point. We are not talking about tuner cars here, just cars that have no business being tuned to the nth degree by clicking a few options.
 
Not everyone drives stock in real life. There are some that will modify their car, whether it be simply reprogramming the ECU on a vehicle or running a straight pipe. I know because I run a modified straight pipe on my '98 Cherokee. I'm not saying that I disagree with the OP, but there are some who want a bit more bang for their buck.
I'm all for modifying little things such as upgrading the exhaust and installing a sports ECU, but I will never fully upgrade a car for daily use. For the occasional drag race I have my 1,010HP Viper, but for daily use such as Nurburgring free runs, which I'm almost always doing when I'm on GT6, I'll usually use stock or lightly tuned cars such as my stock Plymouth Superbird or my Eunos Roadster with sports exhaust.
It makes me sick to see fully tuned GTRs and Veyrons and FXXs running Racing Softs and claiming that they're a good driver. Hop in a stock car and we'll see who comes out on top. :trouble:
 
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Except when you were the unfortunate one that got the V8 Vantage '99 while everyone else got GTRs and Corvettes.
Then it's just unfair. :lol:
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True lolol that was annoying

But beats been in a room were im in a lets say dodge viper and out of nowere a modded 1.4 corsa comes bombing by me like i was in a go kart. Just find that sort of racing unfun.

But each to there own :-)
 
Another big advantage of not tuning cars is that the online racing can be way more interesting, putting forward drivers skills. Especially if you're not very good at fine tuning your machine. :)
 
I love un-tuned cars, tuned ones always seem slightly tainted somehow to me, however if I get a car I really like I tend to buy another and have 1 stock, 1 tuned.
 
Some seasonals force you to tune, but mostly, like the MiTo currently being such, I sell the car afterwards. Usually those are cars I don't care for anyway.
I do alot of setup work on cars that have such options from the showroom, and as for tyres, i go for comfort soft, sports hard and racing hard, depending on car, simply 'cause these tyres seems to best represent real life handling.

I only have one exception, and that is the Suzuki GSX-R/4, wich I tune to the max.
 
Well, this thread finally encouraged me to have a proper go at racing online again.
 
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GT6 isn't in two parts, it's 85% full of people running 450pp - 550pp on racing tires and 15% of people running on CS - SH, mostly on european servers, it's just awful!
 
JogoAsobi
Black and white is not a practical solution for most things, flexibility is.

I run a lot of cars stock in the career mode where the bar is set so low.
That being said, some of them may require adjustment, like Final Gear (Tsukuba vs Fujii)

The beauty of Gran Turismo is that it provides entertainment for varying automotive tastes.
Different strokes for different folks as they say, I understand the motivation behind tuning.

It includes everyone from the novice trying to get an advantage on the AI in career races...
...to the seasoned racer in organized on-line racing trying to get a leg up on the competition.

Relying on PD programmers to deliver a "proper" representation of stock car can also be folly.
There are multiple documented instances of that in past & present GT series, they can make mistakes...
...they are human...and sometimes the tuners in the community can fix it, sometimes not.

You may prefer your coffee black, but the next person might like their's with cream & sugar...
...some even with an extra tune of whiskey.
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You're of course right that there's no "one size fits all approach". And I won't deny the benefits of tuning and working out setups: better understanding of basic car behavior, a very good way to really come to know a track just to name two. In fact figuring out a setup might be one of the best ways to learn a track because ideally one not only wonders about lines but also corner entry/exit speeds. GT6 seems to (finally!) model kerbs quite nicely, so that's another point to consider.

On the other hand I just love how so many different cars show a unique or at least recognisable behaviour and I don't want to lose that.

I feel there's a certain beauty to unmodified, stock production cars. :)
 

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