The Old Vs. The New

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Screw the new stuff. I don't care what advancements in technology there are or how much faster they might be, I'll still take a '69 or '70 fastback with any pushrod V8. More heads will turn, and they sound so much better. Plus I prefer the way older stuff, that's why I got into the Mustang.
 
For me, it all depends which 'old' model and which 'new' model we're talking about.

If its just the basic standard models then I'd say the new ones, but if we're talking fire breathing fast models then the old model.
 
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For me, it all depends which 'old' model and which 'new' model we're talking about.

If its just the basic standard models then I'd say the new ones, but if we're talking fire breathing fast models then the old model.
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The new model in question is the current model and the old one in question is the original.
 
I will never own a Mustang with a I6 in it. In the first generation of Mustangs alone (1964-1973), there was 32 engines offered, from I6's to V8's.


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Plus the taillights on the 1970 model were just epic.

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Plus the new ones don't sound as sexy as this. Startup is at 5:07.

 
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I can respect older generations of cars but I will almost always prefer the newer generations. I like smaller, more efficient engines and suspension that actually plants the car to the ground instead of rolling all over the place. Also I think most car between 1950-2000 weren't all that nice to look at, sure there are exceptions but for the norm I'm not keen on their styling.

Sure there are old cars I really like and would like to own, but that number is significantly smaller than the cars I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I'm sure if I lived in Europe it might be different, but I've only even been exposed to cars sold in the US market.

I also really dislike the idea that some in the automotive community have now that new cars should hold onto something for the sake of tradition. If there's something more advanced, I think it should go on new cars, especially if it makes the car better.
 
"Especially"?

RDF97
The base model is the first model, so the base model for both.
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The base model of the original Mustang was basically a Falcon with a slightly more sporty look. In which case, what's the point?
 
Tornado
"Especially"?
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Are you referencing my post? I'm not sure I follow?

One instance I can think of right away that won't cause a massive argument over nothing is pop-up headlights. There are some people who still want them on cars like the Corvette, but pop-up headlights were awful when they were new, they're even worse now.

You could probably even apply it to halogen lights too, HIDs are worlds better than halogens and are cheap enough now where new cars should have them.
 
Tornado
"Especially"?



The base model of the original Mustang was basically a Falcon with a slightly more sporty look. In which case, what's the point?
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The Musang has always been based on other cars with the exception of maybe the S197s and the new S550.. For example, the Falcon as you say, the Pinto (as people tend to believe), the Fairmont etc.
 
Tornado
"Especially"?



The base model of the original Mustang was basically a Falcon with a slightly more sporty look. In which case, what's the point?
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The reason behind that though is so everyone could have access to it. It was designed for everyone.
 
Joey D
Are you referencing my post? I'm not sure I follow?

One instance I can think of right away that won't cause a massive argument over nothing is pop-up headlights. There are some people who still want them on cars like the Corvette, but pop-up headlights were awful when they were new, they're even worse now.

You could probably even apply it to halogen lights too, HIDs are worlds better than halogens and are cheap enough now where new cars should have them.
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You just phrased it kind of awkwardly. I get what you're saying now.

Slashfan
The Musang has always been based on other cars with the exception of maybe the S197s and the new S550.. For example, the Falcon as you say, the Pinto (as people tend to believe), the Fairmont etc.
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Er... I know.

RDF97
The reason behind that though is so everyone could have access to it. It was designed for everyone.
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I meant what's the point today. A base model new Mustang gives you vaguely retro-ish looks with enough horsepower and good enough handling to make it faster than all but maybe the GT350 of the time. A base model original Mustang (or any original-3-years Mustang not re-engineered by Shelby, really) nets you a fancy Ford Falcon, bereft of any of the attempts that Ford made to legitimize the car as more than the sum of its parts with the 1967 redesign.


There's certainly some provenance to owning a original Mustang, but without the real sporting credentials that didn't come until a few years after the car first came out I don't see that as enough reason to choose it over a new one if given the choice. Especially not one that isn't the comparatively rare HiPo 289.
 
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It's light, simple to work on, and the smog patrol can't touch you - even in Utah, where all cars 1967 and newer have to face inspections.
 
Joey D
I can respect older generations of cars but I will almost always prefer the newer generations. I like smaller, more efficient engines and suspension that actually plants the car to the ground instead of rolling all over the place. Also I think most car between 1950-2000 weren't all that nice to look at, sure there are exceptions but for the norm I'm not keen on their styling.

Sure there are old cars I really like and would like to own, but that number is significantly smaller than the cars I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I'm sure if I lived in Europe it might be different, but I've only even been exposed to cars sold in the US market.

I also really dislike the idea that some in the automotive community have now that new cars should hold onto something for the sake of tradition. If there's something more advanced, I think it should go on new cars, especially if it makes the car better.
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Wut.

Reading this make me want to shoot my foot, or die. New cars? :sick: Small, efficient engines? That's something a chick would say. Have fun not being able to work on any of the new cars when all the cheap Chinese plastic 🤬 starts to deteriorate and break off.

I'll take me an asphalt chewing, rubber burning, gas guzzling 428 Cobra Jet 'Stang any day over the new generations.:sly:
 
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I Think newer cars Never breakdown i guess its better than Stopping in the middle of the street mending your causing traffic jams
 
Celicaas
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I Think newer cars Never breakdown i guess its better than Stopping in the middle of the street mending your causing traffic jams
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Older cars don't break down at all if you take care of them. I'd argue they are way more reliable than anything on the road today.
 
Antonisbob
Wut.

Reading this make me want to shoot my foot, or die. New cars? :sick: Small, efficient engines? That's something a chick would say. Have fun not being able to work on any of the new cars when all the cheap Chinese plastic 🤬 starts to deteriorate and break off.

I'll take me an asphalt chewing, rubber burning, gas guzzling 428 Cobra Jet 'Stang any day over the new generations.:sly:
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This guy might be my new favorite poster now. Figures he's not one of the "GTP incrowd", he's much too cool for it.
 
Murcie_LP640
Short of those with known electrical problems that can really be applied to a vehicle of any age.
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True but a lot of people never took care of old cars and they did break down, which can be applied now as well but that is part of the reason people think old cars do it more. It's simply not true. If you look at a wiring diagram of an older car, there isn't much to one...very few wires, as compared to now where everything is electronic and computerized.
 
Slashfan
Older cars don't break down at all if you take care of them. I'd argue they are way more reliable than anything on the road today.
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That's pretty much false.

Even if you were compare an old & a new car to each other with perfect owners, the quality of the materials back then & now is a gigantic leap. The older car will eventually end up on a lift because be it hoses, wires, or whatever, the material will degrade over time to usage faster than most cars today.
 
Antonisbob
Wut.

Reading this make me want to shoot my foot, or die. New cars? :sick: Small, efficient engines? That's something a chick would say. Have fun not being able to work on any of the new cars when all the cheap Chinese plastic 🤬 starts to deteriorate and break off.
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As opposed to the quality materials that were used in the 1970s and early 1980s?


Slashfan
Older cars don't break down at all if you take care of them. I'd argue they are way more reliable than anything on the road today.
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EFI vs. carbs or even MFI. I know which one I don't have to worry about most of the time.
 
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Tornado
As opposed to the quality materials that were used in the 1970s and early 1980s?



EFI vs. carbs or even MFI. I know which one I don't have to worry about most of the time.
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The thing there is, when something does go wrong with the EFI, it costs a heck of a lot more to fix. And you have to be a computer hacker to do upgrades and tuning.
 
Yup, for the vast majority of users, a vehicle that rarely goes wrong but needs a technician to fix it when it does is preferable to a vehicle that goes wrong a lot more but can be fixed and adjusted without outside assistance.
 
MarinaDiamandis
Yup, for the vast majority of users, a vehicle that rarely goes wrong but needs a technician to fix it when it does is preferable to a vehicle that goes wrong a lot more but can be fixed and adjusted without outside assistance.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I think most people who own vehicles don't have the slightest interest in wrenching on them, even if they are automotive enthusiast.

And to that guy who posted about small engines being for girls, thanks for the laugh 👍
 

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