The Premium Cockpit Thread

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Thought i´d create a thread that only focuses on steady, premium cockpits.
If you know any please let me know, thanks.

HumanRacingGT - http://www.humanracing.co.th/

  • Shifter mount
  • Can be ordered with triple screen stand

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VisionRacer VR3 - http://eu.visionracer.com/eu/index.html

  • Shifter mount (ready for TM TH8 shifter)
  • Can be ordered with triple screen stand
  • Will soon have the ability to move the steering wheel
  • Incredible customer service
  • Visionracer will have a R&R meeting for 2 days soon so give them your questions/ideas now if you want to have an impact on the next "version" of the Visionracer VR3

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Fanatec Rennsport Cockpit - http://fanatec.com/

  • Shifter mount
  • Can be ordered with triple screen stand
  • Can be ordered with keyboard desk holder

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PRICES: - feel free to post up how much these cost in your currency, but please specify everything that´s included and what is not included like shipping etc.

Swedish Prices:

HumanRacing GT - 10.412kr - This is not including triple stand but includes Shipping costs.

VisionRacer VR3 - No price point at this moment, will come in a few days.

Rennsport Cockpit - 13.923kr this is including triple stand, keyboard holder but not including shipping costs.
 
yeah. I think the humanracing and the visionracer are the best cockpits out there. How about the new rennsport cockpit. I mean the white one with the box underneeth it.:)
are you also looking for motion cockpits? if you do, have a look at the cxc simulatoins cockpit
 
Picture not working? Works for me :S

I think the Rennsport is the best hands down, it´s probably the sturdiest, most adjustable, most features etc.

But it costs a ******** of money :)
I´m leaning towards Visionracer and HumanRacing though. Been talking with Visionracer and i´m waiting for the next batch of info regarding the "faclift" version.
 
Hampus, where did you hear of a new VR3 with adjustable steering mount? Also, the VR3 triple LCD mount is available for order, it's amazing.
 
They said it. They had a meeting not so long ago and that was one of the features that will come on the facelifted version :)

Not sure how many angles but definitely forwards/backwards.
 
HamPus us any idea when this is going to happen? And that is another cool thing about the VR3, you can upgrade it because it's all collapsible.

Shaun, I really like the GT and was ordering one, but they just don't communicate well with the USA. Their Los Angeles rep basically ignored me and pawned me off on the Thai reps. I have to say that Phil Williams and Tinnakorn are very nice, but it takes soooooo long to get any answers. We're spending some serious coin here, this isn't chump change. Or is it?

Shaun, is the seat on the GT fiberglass? Or the same plastic as the chassis?

Thanks
 
No idea, but just enter the chat and talk to them, i´m sure they will give you the latest news on what has happened or what will happen :)
Customer Service is the BEST i´ve ever come across.

I even told HR that they are loosing customers due to this but they just shrugged it off and said that "no i don´t think so because they have probably decided already what rig to buy"

NO HR, your customer service SUCK that´s why people buy´s other ****..
Felt abit arrogant like they would survive even if they did not sell one rig.
 
Yes I spoke with David and there some super exciting developments for the VR3. Their model noow is to ask the community what they want, and they will try and make it happen. Such an awesome company.
 
HumanRacing GT Chassis for me, all the way, sorry about the US Service , such a shame, their service is awesome for us, in Australia, countless R&D, one request they are sending the Keyboard and mouse tray, the clubsport converter plate. can't wait to see their new design rig.
even richard bradley (f3 driver) and F1 School ambassador vouch for his HR GT Chassis
 
Customer service is paramount, and simroom gets it. We're spending very large amounts of money in a global recession. I really like both chassis and at some point will own both. But David and company at simroom know what's up. Theyre Johnny on the spot with info, return emails in a timely fashion, and know that we're going to have a ton of questions. Not once did I feel like David wasn't a fan of sim racing, hell the dude sounds more excited than any of us about it lol.

Maybe in six months I'll put a human GT in my apartment. But judging by how their American rep not onlyblew me off, but basically became belligerent in some threads, I'd have to find someone in Thailand who actually wants to sell one.
 
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You're going to love this guys. I just received an email from Human Racing. The shipping on the Human Racing chassis to me is...............DRUM ROLL....................$1,177.00 US dollars. That's right, ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS to ship a 70 pound box. I know Human doesn't control the shipping cost and they can blame their arrogant, belligerent, and idiot US distributor in the LA airport. What a moron. He lost a sale because he wanted to be a douche on a message board. Unbelievable.

Anyway, placing my order with Vision today. They know how to treat customers. Plus David has taken considerations from the community and added it to the VR3. I'm hopefully going to see some new VR3 developments on Friday in NY.

Thanks Simroom
 
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that's for only shipping?!?!

omfg.

i had 1.500usd including shipping so i guess around 500 is shipping which now that i think about it makes the product itself very cheap relatively.
 
I think the GamePOD GT2 can fit nicely in this here thread:
http://www.gamepod.co.uk/gt2.asp
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Lots of good features, reviewers say its very sturdy. Has of course hard mount points for all wheels including the new CSR wheels. Shifter plate mount, cup holder, heayboard holder, mouse/mat holder, monitor stand and even a console holder.

There is of course also the GT2 Evo which is mental. The seat alone weighing in at £799, £1500 with it attatched to the stand.
 
Hampus, where are you located? The chassis is 1500 no matter where you live, so they quoted you free shipping? Hmmmmm, something is rotten here. Either Human has a vendetta against the USA or someone at Human is very very bad at math.
 
Mayaman
Hampus, where are you located? The chassis is 1500 no matter where you live, so they quoted you free shipping? Hmmmmm, something is rotten here. Either Human has a vendetta against the USA or someone at Human is very very bad at math.
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sweden, 1.500 including shipping :)

shipping overseas has always costed idiotic amounts of money unless its by mail or something.

shipping within EU is pretty cheap.
 
MildAshers
I think the GamePOD GT2 can fit nicely in this here thread:
http://www.gamepod.co.uk/gt2.asp

Lots of good features, reviewers say its very sturdy. Has of course hard mount points for all wheels including the new CSR wheels. Shifter plate mount, cup holder, heayboard holder, mouse/mat holder, monitor stand and even a console holder.

There is of course also the GT2 Evo which is mental. The seat alone weighing in at £799, £1500 with it attatched to the stand.
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i respectfully disagree, it would be like turning up at a supercar fest in a Fiat :)
you can sit in it, drive it and all sorts of functional things but premium? not even close :)
 
hampus_dh
i respectfully disagree, it would be like turning up at a supercar fest in a Fiat :)
you can sit in it, drive it and all sorts of functional things but premium? not even close :)
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have you even tried/owned any of these seats before making any dismissive judgements?

well I respectfully disagree. the gampeod evo/gt2 is defo a premium cockpit and has it's place along with Humanracing, Rennsport or VR3. It certainly is not a Fiat as you put it, but one of the best rigs out there and you can add pretty much any accessory you can think of, whereas the Humanracing and Visionracer are really handicapped in comparison

in fact of those you mention it is the only one that uses a FIA certified racing seat (Cobra) and not a homemade imitation

so i concur with MildAshers, and I think you are confusing looks (in your opinion) with quality

furthermore you can add Mobsim to the list as well http://www.mobsim.fr/simulateur-de-conduite-sport.html

but these imo are all midrange cockpits. if money is no objects then the true premium cockpits are

http://www.virtual-gt.com/details.html
http://www.cxcsimulations.com/
http://www.force-dynamics.com/
http://www.f1simis.com/
http://www.formulafactory.com/
 
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Hampus there is still something wrong with the math here. If the GT chassis cost everyone on earth $1500 USD, then how is the chassis with shipping to Sweden $1500 USD? Unless shipping is free to EU?

I still think I got shafted by Human because of the slime ball US distributor who channeled me to Thailand. Buyer beware. $1500 for chassis. $1177 for shipping. Hello crazy
 
lunarwolf
well I respectfully disagree. the gampeod evo/gt2 is defo a premium cockpit and has it's place along with Humanracing, Rennsport or VR3. It certainly is not a Fiat as you put it, but one of the best rigs out there and you can add pretty much any accessory you can think of, whereas the Humanracing and Visionracer are really handicapped in comparison

in fact of those you mention it is the only one that uses a FIA certified racing seat (Cobra) and not a homemade imitation

so i concur with MildAshers, and I think you are confusing looks (in your opinion) with quality

furthermore you can add Mobsim to the list as well http://www.mobsim.fr/simulateur-de-conduite-sport.html

PS have you even tried/owned any of these seats before making any dismissive judgements?
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premium is also about design, it's not about functionality but more about the creation itself.
no doubt its a good rig but not premium in a way you call a Bmw, audi or merc premium.

its hard to explain but hopefully someone understands what i mean by premium cockpits.
 
Mayaman
Hampus there is still something wrong with the math here. If the GT chassis cost everyone on earth $1500 USD, then how is the chassis with shipping to Sweden $1500 USD? Unless shipping is free to EU?

I still think I got shafted by Human because of the slime ball US distributor who channeled me to Thailand. Buyer beware. $1500 for chassis. $1177 for shipping. Hello crazy
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well then you probably got shafted, i got a quote of that price including shipping so i must have paid for shipping.
 
hampus_dh
premium is also about design, it's not about functionality but more about the creation itself.
no doubt its a good rig but not premium in a way you call a Bmw, audi or merc premium.

its hard to explain but hopefully someone understands what i mean by premium cockpits.
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I think you should rename your thread to "the best looking cockpits", since you are having difficulty undertanding the meaning of premium

"premium" means of exceptional quality in my book. "design" has you put it is nothing more than aethetics and that is completely subjective. (since i doubt you meant design in terms of engineering)

unlike you, some like the look of the gamepod. for one i find the rennsport truly ugly with all the mesh like treatment and the Humanracing looks like a cheap plastic base, but i love the VR3 in the looks department. the fact that those seats are imitations is not what i would expect of a quality item. but this is all subjective and not what makes a cockpit premium. Personally i love Chilicoke's cockpit https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=119739 and think it's one of the best looking ones (as well as quality), you would probably dismiss it too since you may find it lacks a "curvy look" :rolleyes: funny you compare the gamepod to a Fiat. isn't the fiat 500 a sexy design?

furthermore, service is an important aspect of premium brands (ie BMW, Mercedes etc...). from what Mayaman is saying I think that is poor. Fanatec is also weak in that department from personal experience (they promised it would be better and seem to be trying to take it more seriously this time. i hope that they do get it sorted, because they do make quality products)
 
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I agree, the chilicoke cockpit is brilliant.
I wouldn't call the Gamepod not premium. I think it is a premium chassis based on sound functionality. I think that while its not the best looking chassis its definitely premium.

Based on the service from Human and their extortionist like behavior as far as USA pricing I'd have to ask is Human Racing "premium"? Sure, their product is pretty awesome, but my god what a cluster F of epic proportions getting any straight answers. Is it $1500 with shipping? Is it over $3200 with shipping? Why are USA customers treated so poorly? I mean tons of questions.

For me Premium first comes with functionality. Then looks. The looks draws you first though, this is just like anything, even women ;)

But after the looks you have functionality and then customer service. So far Human fails miserably at the latter, and I mean really bad. Secondly, why is the price so much higher for USA customers?

Visionracer is at the top of the charts for customer service not only for a rig manufacturer, but really for any product I've ever bought, ever. LOL So while the Human GT may have more adjustment capabilities and it might be sturdier, it just isn't worth the hassle, cost to actually own one.

Premium is the entire ball of wax. Looks, cost, service. You must excel at all three to be "Premium"
 
lunarwolf
have you even tried/owned any of these seats before making any dismissive judgements?

well I respectfully disagree. the gampeod evo/gt2 is defo a premium cockpit and has it's place along with Humanracing, Rennsport or VR3. It certainly is not a Fiat as you put it, but one of the best rigs out there and you can add pretty much any accessory you can think of, whereas the Humanracing and Visionracer are really handicapped in comparison

in fact of those you mention it is the only one that uses a FIA certified racing seat (Cobra) and not a homemade imitation

so i concur with MildAshers, and I think you are confusing looks (in your opinion) with quality

furthermore you can add Mobsim to the list as well http://www.mobsim.fr/simulateur-de-conduite-sport.html

but these imo are all midrange cockpits. if money is no objects then the true premium cockpits are

http://www.virtual-gt.com/details.html
http://www.cxcsimulations.com/
http://www.force-dynamics.com/
http://www.f1simis.com/
http://www.formulafactory.com/
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From the two members that bought one on here, one of them had to add an extension to the pedals because they didn't fit, and another had a problem with wobbly seat mounts. I'm not trying to stir the pot or say that these guys aren't happen with their rig, but if I were spending upward of $800+ USD for a racing seat and rig, I would expect it to do exactly what I wanted, with zero modifications. I'm also not saying that the Gamepod shouldn't be in the Premium Cockpit lineup. But seeing as there's not a single "perfect" rig, the Premium Cockpits do a really good job of getting close to that.
 
After reading the rest of the thread, it seems as though there's a bit of a disagreement on what "Premium" should mean. Should it mean customer service? Should it mean adjustability and comfort? Looks? Honestly there really hasn't been a perfect cockpit, based on all those things. It seems as though every cockpit is either missing customer satisfaction, adjustability and sometimes just plain old rigidity.
 
well i have one and no issues with it just like many other owners http://insidesimracing.tv/forums/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=3188. sorry if some have quality issues with wobbly seat but it was bought off ebay second hand and looks bent. as for pedals not being long enough i am not sure how tall the guy is. Darin Gangi from SRT is well over 6 feet tall and uses Gampod without any pedal extensions

btw you can buy pedal adjustment kit/seat sliders at gamepod as well as reinforced side mounts for seat if you use buttkicker etc... http://www.gamepod.co.uk/gt2.asp
 
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yeah, I scoured the ISR threads before making any claims about the wobbliness. A few members had discussed it's rigidity particularly in the metal brackets that hold the seat, but there was no conclusion. There's definitely a lot of axe grinding in almost every thread that puts people's financial decisions in question, so I won't bother trying to make any kind of point, just wanted to post what I found on our very forums :)
 
here's the quote,

"The Chassis is $1,550 *This cost is including shipping by sea freight"

and this is shipping from Bangkok (the other side of the world basically)
 
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I guess premium can be a premium price but is no assurance of actually being premium in quality or design.

Its funny as all the cockpits shown have their own issues or downsides. I think we have yet to see a nigh on perfect cockpit around the £700 - £1200 price bracket.

Gamepod is probably the most versatile when you include its options.
VR3 has the bling and finally new upcoming options.
Human Racing is style over substance, the lack of cable management is a massive oversight though.
Rennsport looks the part and has triple monitor option but is questionable in its finish/build quality unless the new model has improved.

Each has their own appeal to different people.
 

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