The right times to use Engine Overhaul and Restore body ridgidity?

[xSNAKEx]

At the beggining of GT5 I would use engine overhauls and body ridgitity like a nut, almost after each race (which is why I've never saved up any money)
And now I only do it on used cars before tuning them, but now I'm not even so sure of that!

Ive never seen a single benefit of it just a huge drain of money. The only difference I see, even in a used car, is you change the oil you get some extra HP, but the overhaul never does anything.

So should I be using them at all? I'm also curius if its good to use both overhaul and rigidity on used cars before tuning them if you can do tune the car and do the overhauls way later if you like the car and it ends up the same thing anyway? Like you dont miss out on some bonus stats?

 

[petergriffin669]

I'm wondering same ? 1 of my cars engine overhaul costs 500k the cars not worth that ..

 

[davisl96]

I have used the engine overhaul, twice on my GT-R after I noticed a significant power loss. Sure enough the overhaul restored the power. I have also noticed the car getting "lose" lately, so I did the chassis overhaul and she fell back in line quickly.

 

[rocket99]

I leave it as long as possible. I once had my Minolta 88C-V break down on me. So I figured that was a good time to quit to XMB and go to the repair shop.

My corvette ZR-1 on the other hand just seems to keep going and going, even after slamming it into walls. Watching it spin trough the air and being shunted all over the place. It does lap 0,5 second slower on the indy track now, but that's hardly worth a repair bill.

 

[xSNAKEx]

I leave it as long as possible. I once had my Minolta 88C-V break down on me. So I figured that was a good time to quit to XMB and go to the repair shop.

My corvette ZR-1 on the other hand just seems to keep going and going, even after slamming it into walls. Watching it spin trough the air and being shunted all over the place. It does lap 0,5 second slower on the indy track now, but that's hardly worth a repair bill.

eh? What do you mean break down?

 

[LJ]

I would never use that stuff,i don't think it affects the car!

 

[Grayfox]

my GTR-Vspec was driving on fuji stright and the back left tire lost grip all of a sudden and i spun out of contol, when i went to GTAuto i had a 100000K+ body repair cost

 

[Dotini]

My Furai is still winning races running around with cr.500,000 chassis/body damage and cr.490,000 engine damage. It runs as well as ever.

It looks like the importance of this damage/wear issue is going to vary from car to car.

 

[BradKinder]

What we know about chassis/engine maintenance

 

[ddl8]

I thinks they went to far with that engine overhaul/body regidity features!!!!!!!!

 

[rocket99]

eh? What do you mean break down?

I mean no more engine power. I clipped a wall and the car rolled to a stand still while the rest zoomed by. Didn't even help to restart the race. That engine was gone.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

On the engine overhaul. When you get a car you like change the oil and see how much power it has afterward. Try to remember this number or jot it down somewhere. After racing change the oil and look at the HP. on a new car the HP will increase a little as it gets broken in first 200 miles or so then later on the engine will start to drop power a little at a time starting after it has a few thousand miles on it. depending on the car, the races you are running and how badly you need the power you will want to rebuild it when it has lost to much power to do the job.

As for the body wait until the handling starts to degrade and then do it.

 

[xSNAKEx]

my GTR-Vspec was driving on fuji stright and the back left tire lost grip all of a sudden and i spun out of contol, when i went to GTAuto i had a 100000K+ body repair cost

BS, so far eveything I have seen points to the restore body ridgidity repair cost being always half the cost of the car, its around 79k for the vspec, it never goes up or down and the cost is not related to anything more than that.

So you are outright luying, or your game gltiched or have you driven the car more than anyone else on the planet and have come accross something I have never heard of and I appologise in advance if thats the case.

I mean no more engine power. I clipped a wall and the car rolled to a stand still while the rest zoomed by. Didn't even help to restart the race. That engine was gone.

Wow, I dont mean to be rude but having never experienced or heard of aything like this till now I have to say my feelings are as above yet some more BS. I have not heard of this ever occuring or being a feature before this. I apologise if it is indeed true.

Sounds similar to if you ran out of fuel, but you said you restarted the race as well. Are you sure you controller did not stuff up or the game glitched?

WHat are these weird claims no one else seems to experience?

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

I have yet to see a reason to do an engine overhaul. Every time one of my cars get worn enough to start losing hp, an oil change restores everything to full power. Every time.

 

[stadti]

I did some necessary repairs on my FGT when my horsepowers went down to around 810. (That's just a guess, because the info is only given in kW and it read 614 kW, the calculation rate is somewhere at 1,3..:1)
I did an engine repair and oil change and the engine was about 100 kW ~130bhp stronger again. But the main reason for that repair was because I wanted to do the FGT series and a handicap of -100 kW is like a sure last place.

Oh and I read somewhere here that a engine can't break. There's a built in limit so if you reach this limit the power loss will stop. This limit applies for oil and engine losses.

 

[jdmAP1]

I have yet to see a reason to do an engine overhaul. Every time one of my cars get worn enough to start losing hp, an oil change restores everything to full power. Every time.

Come back when you've done weeks of endurance races with the same car without an overhaul and just oil changes. The 'max' hp that you can recover with only an oil change goes down, eg you start with a brand new 1000hp car. After breaking it in it's 1020hp. After 1 24-hour, you're down to 970hp. Do an oil change and you're back to 1020hp. Maybe after the 3rd or 4th, you'll only be back to 1000hp or less and continue to degrade. That's when you KNOW you should do an overhaul.

 

[RODDUZ]

I mean no more engine power. I clipped a wall and the car rolled to a stand still while the rest zoomed by. Didn't even help to restart the race. That engine was gone.

That never happened!

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

Come back when you've done weeks of endurance races with the same car without an overhaul and just oil changes. The 'max' hp that you can recover with only an oil change goes down, eg you start with a brand new 1000hp car. After breaking it in it's 1020hp. After 1 24-hour, you're down to 970hp. Do an oil change and you're back to 1020hp. Maybe after the 3rd or 4th, you'll only be back to 1000hp or less and continue to degrade. That's when you KNOW you should do an overhaul.

Gotcha. But after a few 24 hr races... I'm the one that's going to need an overhaul. Endurance races don't interest me much, I've only done 3 of them.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

BS, so far eveything I have seen points to the restore body ridgidity repair cost being always half the cost of the car, its around 79k for the vspec, it never goes up or down and the cost is not related to anything more than that.

So you are outright luying, or your game gltiched or have you driven the car more than anyone else on the planet and have come accross something I have never heard of and I appologise in advance if thats the case.



Wow, I dont mean to be rude but having never experienced or heard of aything like this till now I have to say my feelings are as above yet some more BS. I have not heard of this ever occuring or being a feature before this. I apologise if it is indeed true.

Sounds similar to if you ran out of fuel, but you said you restarted the race as well. Are you sure you controller did not stuff up or the game glitched?

WHat are these weird claims no one else seems to experience?

I've seen it where the engine overhaul is 50% of the vehicle cost and the chassis refurb was more... Let me see if I can recall the car it happened to...

 

[66'Roadster]

If you have damage off do you need to do body rigidity restore at all?

 

[stadti]

If you have damage off do you need to do body rigidity restore at all?

body rigidity restore has nothing to do with damage. You can drive 10 km without any taken damage and when you leave the track it will say that you can do body rigidity repairs. It's bound to the distance you drive, not the damage you take

 

[jmsbrydon]

It's ridiculous. To do both engine and body repair on my X1 it's 1 mil cr......i have only had over 1 mil twice and i am level 21 aspec but i have seen a massive decrease in handling in the X1 and i have only gone off with it on the ring a few times before this. Mind you i did get it used so i don't know how hard it was pushed by the guy who traded me it.

 

[ghsnu]

I'd say any car from the UCD with roughly 3,000 miles (check via "my garage") should get a direct engine overhaul (unless you don't have the money/need for it), but at least change the oil.

As for new cars....once they gain plenty of miles.

 

[jmcleod]

It's ridiculous. To do both engine and body repair on my X1 it's 1 mil cr......i have only had over 1 mil twice and i am level 21 aspec but i have seen a massive decrease in handling in the X1 and i have only gone off with it on the ring a few times before this. Mind you i did get it used so i don't know how hard it was pushed by the guy who traded me it.

You shouldn't have an X1 by then...for me it's only 45 minutes on Dream Car to fully refresh engine and chassis. Loose change.

 

[caladina]

does the engine / body overhaul price change the more wear it gets? i never really checked that, only did it to my nascar when i was trying to get it to beat faster cars, never paid attention if the price altered

 

[L1truckie]

After putting around 1000 miles (?) maybe on my F GT, I was running the Formula GT Championship yesterday. I got gold on the first four races but during the fifth race going around a corner (using a DFGT) it felt as if the car "broke" or had a suspension issue. I honestly thought for a second maybe my DFGT broke, then I checked my tire wear. All was/seemed good. The car would not handle for anything. I had to baby it for the rest of the race and limped into a 7th place finish. Power seemed good, just no/bad handling. The last race I quit out after two laps of spinning out and getting way behind. Did not drive it after that as I quit, but have used it all day grinding B-spec and it seems fine.

After reading this thread, I am curious now if I need to do the chassis overhaul now, or if it was bad driving on my part or if I was just tired. Call it what you want, but at a point I truly felt my car broke.. Will definitely be driving it tomorrow to see if it still feels the same...

p.s. I was not the cleanest driver in the Formula GT Championship either. There might have been a few "bumps" along the way

 

[r2nyGT5]

does the engine / body overhaul price change the more wear it gets? i never really checked that, only did it to my nascar when i was trying to get it to beat faster cars, never paid attention if the price altered

The price does not change. The minute your car rides over pavement, you'll get an option to restore body rigidity. Don't know about Engine though.