The Spec-V Commeth: Not Much of a Surprise

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Ofcourse, there's no word that it going on sale here and in the US, if not then I guess we'll still see them as grey imports.
 
It looks like this going to give the ACR a run for its money(well twice its money) on the ring. Not hatting on the GTR its a great car but for a 150 grand I would buy this...

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Paskowitz just gave me an idea.

Why has the Ford GT never been raced around the Ring, and why has it never been compared to the GT-R, ZR1, or ACR? Surely it'd be fairly competitive. It's a couple years old, yeah, but it's got game. Just, ARGH, get rid of it's shoddy tires.
 
Not enough downforce? Would be an interesting exercise. My bet is on low to mid 7:30s.
 
It was never ran out there? Not even by a privateer? Wow, I'm actually somewhat shocked!

I'd personally peg it at a fairly good clip, but I personally wouldn't have it out-gunning the Z06 by much, if even at all.
 
link, source, evidence? I would rather believe 7'25 range, since changes weren't THAT extensive. 10 seconds off from a nurb lap is bit too much even for GT-R fan like me.
 
The bubble clearly shows that its above 7:20, but given how outrageously poor the resolution is, its difficult to make out anything exact. Lets say 7:23 just for the heck of it?

Helluva time. But... Meh.
 
They've got a big circle covering 7:21 to 7:28... so, let's be fair and say... 7:30? :lol:

No lap video, no press release. No time. At least, no official time, yet. Nissan will probably pull their cyborg out of cryostasis come summer (warmer track, better grip) for a good go at another "hero lap" for the GT-R.
 
The bubble clearly shows that its above 7:20, but given how outrageously poor the resolution is, its difficult to make out anything exact. Lets say 7:23 just for the heck of it?
Helluva time. But... Meh.

Assuming the big black line marks 7:20, I think 7:23 is about right. If this is just a time that they are shooting for, then my confidence isn't too great. I'll be impressed if they get it below 7:25. And 7:23? *yawn* The Viper ACR does it faster.

Is anybody else slightly disturbed that the Nurburgring time makes it onto the same chart (signifying somewhat similar importance) as the power/weight ratio? It is significant, but designing a car with the lap time on one track being so important sounds like a few priorities are mixed up.
 
It's an industry thing. I'm just waiting for them to develop other "Holy Grails"... maybe along the lines of whether or not Simon Cowell likes the way it sounds, for example.
 
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Or the ZR-1. I don't know about people spending $150,000 on a Nissan in the US. They could instead buy a ZR-1, R8, Porsche 997 Turbo, GT3 RS, Used Ferrari 360 Spyder (possibly F430), and even a used Murcielago.

You are not correct. You can in fact, get a GT-R for $70,000 MSRP with a comparable Z06 being about $77,000-80,000. You can get one through the Costco Motors System, where they are willing to sell at MSRP everytime.
 
He is repeating what Mizuno said.. and seeing how well NNA has messed up things there with GTR, I have to agree.
 
That's who I'm referring to, Mizuno. Seems like he's just hurt because everyone blew the transmission-deal out of proportion, and can't face the facts that not every single Spec-V may not find its way into a garage.

He needs to grow up and accept that these things happen, not just in America. Ferrari, Porsche, Audi, everyone else lives with these issues. Apparently, he can't.
 
Mizuno needs to grow up? :lol: US buyers are the ones having the big boohoohoo with everything. Did you even read the whole post? US customers abused the car and then bawled as something failed and Nissan denied warranty, pointing at the proof provided by the black box. They had to sign a waiver before the car was handed over, which means that they had it coming all along.
 
That article is great, SpecV might come to Australia :D
 
Mizuno needs to grow up? :lol: US buyers are the ones having the big boohoohoo with everything. Did you even read the whole post? US customers abused the car and then bawled as something failed and Nissan denied warranty, pointing at the proof provided by the black box. They had to sign a waiver before the car was handed over, which means that they had it coming all along.
Everyone abuses these sports cars, and then whines & complains. It happens to all manufacturers. The main concerns I heard about the GT-R was the transmission and that came from idiots who purposely pushing the it to its limit.

And what about these parts?
He went on to say that, essentially, the quality of service and support in the US for the SpecV simply isn't there.
He's basically saying we & the service dealers don't have the intelligence to maintain these cars.
When it comes to machines like that, the US isn't up to par with the rest of the world.
Ok. :rolleyes:
He wouldn't be turning it over to the same people that can barely handle the base GT-R.
People can barely handle Ferrari's & Porsche's. Doesn't mean everyone can't.
He wouldn't be sending it to a place where a secondary market was waiting for it.
Happens to all manufacturers....
He wouldn’t be turning it over to a company that would let it sit at the ports for month while the premium Ultimate Opal Black paint got eaten away, while customers were left in the dark.
Again, happens to all manufacturers. You can't avoid this.
He wouldn't be leaving it in the hands of service staff that might scratch $30,000 rotors - requiring replacement - and blame it on the customer.
And what says everyone else in the world won't do so?
And he definitely wouldn't be reading any lies regarding his transmission from communities with few intelligent owners and many internet mechanics.
Basically condemned a lot of GT-R owners.
I've been told that every day Mizuno-san reads through all GT-R warranty claims and associated data. But despite his attempts at being a good father, many Japanese tuners don't like Mizuno-san’s policies. They are upset with what he's done to their brand.
Not shocking....
A little over a year ago, at the original R35 GT-R's introduction, I asked Mizuno-san about modifications, to which he expressed a strong view that the car shouldn't be touched. Being the new GT-R president, he's used the full power of his administration to control the GT-R market. This includes restricting access to key GT-R replacement parts such as engines and transmissions. It has even gone so far as to prevent tuners from bringing R35s to events such as the Nismo festival. Rumor has it that his feelings go further, impacting everything from the very way Nismo handles the GT-R to the reason why we don't have a blue GT-R.

This guy's nothing more than a damn cry-baby. He's trying to make sure every single GT-R in the world is taken care of to the fullest extent and stays the way he intended it.

You can not do this when it comes to automobiles. Mizuno needs to learn this. Both of Italy's biggest 2 sports car makers have realized this, and use it to their advantage.

BTW, this is probably a reason as to why the used GT-R market is picking up....The factory's not supporting the owners.
 
then, maybe you could point out some posts that are complaining about Porsche/Ferrari/Lamborghini dealerships in the US, how they had bled off the air from the tyres while they were hot after driving, resulting as TPM going off next morning, warning about low pressure.. and how about swirls in the paintjob after the dealership had cleaned the car before delivery? Yup, NNA dealerships don't know how a flagship model should be treated.
 
then, maybe you could point out some posts that are complaining about Porsche/Ferrari/Lamborghini dealerships in the US, how they had bled off the air from the tyres while they were hot after driving, resulting as TPM going off next morning, warning about low pressure
Please link as this is the first I've heard of this. I will also send an e-mail to our local dealers to see more about this.

EDIT* BTW, I don't see what this has to do with the article at all. Seems you're just trying to distract everyone to another issue to cover up Mizuno's ridiculous reasons.

.. and how about swirls in the paintjob after the dealership had cleaned the car before delivery? Yup, NNA dealerships don't know how a flagship model should be treated.
Not an applicable argument. Swirls in the paintjob have happened everywhere; Factory, Dealer, Car Wash, Detailer, & Owner.
 
And it wouldn't had happened before the cars were delivered if the cars had been stored properly instead of leaving them in the docs for weeks after they had been shipped over. but you're right, it has nothing to do with SpecV or Mizuno. They just happen to be the small factors that led to the fact that US won't get SpecV for few years.. not counting gray imports of course.
 
I don't see why Mizuno needs to get upset, and now feel as if he must control every R35 that leaves the factory. Just look at some of the other people in that link; they don't seem pleased either that the US was pretty much called immature, and not responsible enough to take care of a car that isn't the most prestige, that isn't the fastest, that isn't the best built, & that just simply isn't the greatest car in the world, even for the money. Mizuno seems to think otherwise, and is just too blind to the fact that Americans & anyone else in the world have taken care of cars that are everything more or less than the Spec-V.
 
Leonidae, I don't feel the need to say this often, but shut up.

You are acting like the biggest elitist snob I have seen in a long while. And being that you seem to have some skewed facts, horribly bias, and a rather poor opinion on most things regarding the US, you should just stop. Now.
 
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