The thread of weird race tracks
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These early versions of racing circuits simply used whatever roads were available.
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Actually, the Norisring is built on an old Nazi rallying ground, and it would appear that the Germans weren't quite sure what to do with it once the war ended. Building a racing circuit over it was the solution. Naturally.
But if you want a really weird circuit, this is what the Norisring looked like in 1949:
And this is what it looked like from 1950 to 1959:
At least, that's accoring to theracingline.net
But if you want a really weird circuit, this is what the Norisring looked like in 1949:
And this is what it looked like from 1950 to 1959:
At least, that's accoring to theracingline.net
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- tombrookscomms
Reminds me of SSR7.
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I have always thought the Hockenheimring circuit is weird... When I was young, the layout looked like a woman's boot designed by some kid who clearly knows how to design his mom's winter boot. Now, it's a heck of a fun to drive!
Thats just an example of a ruined circuit.
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Disagree. The old Hockenheim circuit was always an easy win for whoever had the most powerful engine. This new circuit levels the playing field a lot more.
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Thats basicaly what monza is now but everyone loves monza.
IMO the old Hockenheim was better than monza (unless your counting the monza with the oval where they are equal IMO)
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And the person with the widest car, it was so thin and impossible to overtake someone unless you went on the grass.
And
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Spa hasn't stayed the same, it used to be much longer and dangerous...and Monza is entirely different from how it used to be. Perhaps the Nordschleife is a better example of an ex-F1 track layout that has been kept alive?
I mean, if people can still maintain and race on a track far longer and more dangerous than old-Hockenheim, there is no excuse.
But I agree that old Hockenheim was a far more interesting track, all the drivers have said that they found it absolutely terrifying.
I mean, if people can still maintain and race on a track far longer and more dangerous than old-Hockenheim, there is no excuse.
But I agree that old Hockenheim was a far more interesting track, all the drivers have said that they found it absolutely terrifying.
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This one is less than a case of a weird track, but instead weird positioning of tracks
2 kart tracks within 200m of each other. The top one being Fulbeck kart track and the bottom being Paul Fletcher International.
There is a reason that they are so close together(its quite long so I won't go into it), however still weird that they both still exist and pull in decent sized grids.
EDIT: And yes I do know that Fulbeck looks slightly like a penis.
2 kart tracks within 200m of each other. The top one being Fulbeck kart track and the bottom being Paul Fletcher International.
There is a reason that they are so close together(its quite long so I won't go into it), however still weird that they both still exist and pull in decent sized grids.
EDIT: And yes I do know that Fulbeck looks slightly like a penis.
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One of the reasons why Hockenheim was shortened was that there was no immediate access to large parts of the circuit, particularly at its fastest points. In the event of an accident, marshalls and medical crews would need to drive around the circuit to them, which can take a lot of time (particularly depending on where all of the racing cars are). When four cars wiped out at Monaco this year, Vitaly Petrov was knocked unconscious by the impact. He regained consciousness on his own, but by that time, the marshalls were already attending to the car. If that accident had happened at the old Hockenheim, the marshalls would have needed to get to the cars first, prioritise them (which means Petrov may not have been the first driver to recieve attention) and provide aid. The time wasted could have had serious ramifications.
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It's better than the original version. The section from Turn 4 to Turn 8 actually looks pretty decent. Turns 7 and 8 in particular look like they'd be flat out today.
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And this is somehow worse than trying to marshall and control a race on the Nordschleife?
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Yes. Because the races that are run at the Nordschleife are not run to the same standards as Formula 1. If Formula 1 still visited the unabridged Nordschleife and Hockenheim was shortened on safety grounds, I might be able to see your point. But it's not, so I can't.
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The A1GP track in Beijing
The hairpin was so tight the cars couldn't get around safely so the track had to be changed after the first practice session.
The hairpin was so tight the cars couldn't get around safely so the track had to be changed after the first practice session.
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The A1GP track in Beijing
The hairpin was so tight the cars couldn't get around safely so the track had to be changed after the first practice session.
That's very similar to the Korea track from GT4...
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The Beijing circuit that Superleague Formula used last year was worse - a section of circuit was so narrow that it failed its homologation. The circuit was given a Grade-3 licence instead of the Grade-2 needed for an international competition, so the event had to be treated as a national event and no championship points were awarded.
Then what were you talking about? I cited the four-car accident at Monaco as an example of something that could easily have been far worse if it happened at Hockenheim. You then made the counter-argument of the Nordschleife. Clearly we've missed something in the middle, here.
People aren't upset that Hockenheim was shortened. They're upset about the way it was shortened. The problem is that it's pretty obvious Hermann Tilke was told to treat the old circuit as a perimeter, so he could only design on the infield - and the shape of the Hockenheim infield severely limited the possible solutions.
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The Nordschleife is an ex-GP circuit that has been maintained and continued to see motorsport action.
Hocknheim-long is an ex-GP circuit that hasn't been maintained and will never see motorsport action again.
Pretty simple what I'm talking about. You might want to stop thinking F1 is the only motorsport in existance.
Why did Hockenheim have to be ripped up and not used ever again for any motorsport? I think most of us would be reasonably happy if it was at least kept for F3/DTM/WTCC or whatever. Now no-one will ever race on it ever again.
My point with bringing the Nordschleife up is that it is a far larger track and far more dangerous and expensive to maintain. Therefore there stands little reason why Hockenheim should be any different. At no point was F1 even referred to and at no point is it relevant at all.
Hocknheim-long is an ex-GP circuit that hasn't been maintained and will never see motorsport action again.
Pretty simple what I'm talking about. You might want to stop thinking F1 is the only motorsport in existance.
Why did Hockenheim have to be ripped up and not used ever again for any motorsport? I think most of us would be reasonably happy if it was at least kept for F3/DTM/WTCC or whatever. Now no-one will ever race on it ever again.
My point with bringing the Nordschleife up is that it is a far larger track and far more dangerous and expensive to maintain. Therefore there stands little reason why Hockenheim should be any different. At no point was F1 even referred to and at no point is it relevant at all.
