The time has come..

[SPANK]

Over the past few weeks I have seen tons of new threads being posted. These threads are made by people who just signed up to the website and make no sense. They dont use the search button to find the answer of theirs, like maybe it might have been answered already? Then in the section I spend most of my time, I see not only members with two or three posts but sometimes over one hundred double or even triple posting. So trying to follow rules moderators gave me to stop trying to moderate myself and just report them so they can do the work, I did so. Well after reporting and reporting I see no effort on the moderators side. I understand they get tons and tons and it takes some time. But when it has been over a week or even two weeks and nothing still hasnt been done, then I start to think to myself. What are the moderators for if they arent going to do their job?

I try to be as nice as I can when I post in these threads and remind them that double posting is frowned upon in these forums. They then tell me..

spank your a lil troll you know that gtfo our threads unless you got something worth saying

So sorry but when I get told to "gtfo" I tend to get a bit more irritated.

Then I also get private messages which I have reported and find very offensive and seend other members being banned for name called in the slightest. Tell me if this is something that should ban a member which I will leave annonymous:

Dude your a prick all he was doing is trying to upload a pic for **** sakes your pussy must be hurting real bad for you to jump his **** on that one ASSHOLE

Then I tell them that I am reporting it and they may get banned for that. Then I get this message back:

hope it feels good being a bitch

I also report this message. And still nothing has been done? Am I missing something is this thread not monitored anymore? Or are the moderators just not wanting to do anything. I hope something gets done about this and soon because this kind of nonsense is starting to make GTPlanet look like a new "facebook" or "myspace"

And I dont know about most of you but I am too old to be dealing with "high school drama"

Thanks for reading.

 

[Techy]

Just report and move on, really. Due to the updates GT5 received, new members across several qualities/personalities is bound to happen, including members similar to the ones you ran into.

 

[SPANK]

Just report and move on, really. Due to the updates GT5 received, new members across several qualities/personalities is bound to happen, including members similar to the ones you ran into.

I do but nothing is done about it.

 

[TB]

You reported something that happened a whole TWO HOURS AGO and you're wondering why we haven't taken care of it yet? Lets see.

Moderators from Europe - It's was 1am then.
Moderators from the US - Supper, putting kids to bed, talking to their wife after her 12 hour shift, etc.
Moderators from Australia, The Philippines - lunch time.
See where I'm going with this?

Also, just because you can't see that something has happened doesn't mean that nothing has happened. Moderator actions are a private matter between the staff and the person in question.

As stated, report it and forget about it.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I've noticed the same kind of behavior in the marketplace, recently GTP has had a surge of new guys here, and when we get ten new threads all stating that some guy's got a X2010 and he wants to trade it. Does anybody know about trade limits? And when I point that out to them I get five people on my back saying that I don't have the right to tell that to them because I only have a few trades so far, and I get called a "mod wannabe." Are you frickin' kidding me?!?!? It's like you can't point out anything to anybody, and get even a little mad while you're at it. I'm sick of getting new people without a clue in here, and seeing them spam up the forum. Some of the threads asking for a car that goes over the trade limit should get a lock immediately, end of discussion. And people that don't even bother to use the search function, that should end in a locked thread, and if they do it repeatedly they should get infraction points. This forum is starting to look like a non-moderated cheat codes forum.

 

[Blitz24]

I've noticed the same kind of behavior in the marketplace, recently GTP has had a surge of new guys here, and when we get ten new threads all stating that some guy's got a X2010 and he wants to trade it. Does anybody know about trade limits? And when I point that out to them I get five people on my back saying that I don't have the right to tell that to them because I only have a few trades so far, and I get called a "mod wannabe." Are you frickin' kidding me?!?!? It's like you can't point out anything to anybody, and get even a little mad while you're at it. I'm sick of getting new people without a clue in here, and seeing them spam up the forum. Some of the threads asking for a car that goes over the trade limit should get a lock immediately, end of discussion. And people that don't even bother to use the search function, that should end in a locked thread, and if they do it repeatedly they should get infraction points. This forum is starting to look like a non-moderated cheat codes forum.

People don't like to read and sadly people don't like to click the "search" tab. Its quite disappointing honestly.

 

[SPANK]

You reported something that happened a whole TWO HOURS AGO and you're wondering why we haven't taken care of it yet? Lets see.

Moderators from Europe - It's was 1am then.
Moderators from the US - Supper, putting kids to bed, talking to their wife after her 12 hour shift, etc.
Moderators from Australia, The Philippines - lunch time.
See where I'm going with this?

Also, just because you can't see that something has happened doesn't mean that nothing has happened. Moderator actions are a private matter between the staff and the person in question.

As stated, report it and forget about it.

Thar is not the only thing reported my pm's from this person were reported 2 days ago and what happened. He get infractions? That I believe isn't nothing but a slap on the wrist? Or is it okay to call someone a pussy and asshole these days.

 

[W3H5]

I subscribe to some threads where people double post after being here at least a month and racking up 200+ posts, in all honesty I don't bother to report it or say anything because I've said it once and so have a few others.

I put part of it down to them not realising that things can be multi-quoted, it took me a while to figure that one out.

In regards to those vile people who sent you the PM, they deserve a ban for that.

Much of what you stated Spank is why I don't bother posting in the GT section much. Unless I've had a few beers and feel the need to give my input to everyone who'll listen, I'm not really in the mood to deal with the childish behaviour that is sometimes displayed there.

 

[Mike Rotch]

He get infractions? That I believe isn't nothing but a slap on the wrist? .

Then you believe wrong. Warning accrue no points, but infractions do. Get to enough infraction points and a ban results. Different site rules being broken lead to different amounts of infractions points being awarded. So unless you are saying we should lower the infractions-leads-to-ban-level (and let's not forget you have had your moments in the past), then I am not sure what you are on about.

Use the report button and if said member still doesn't learn, use it again and they will learn the hard way.

 

[1241Penguin]

I don't like the people who violate the AUP either, but that doesn't mean that I am immediately responsible to point out to them what they are doing wrong.

EITHER:
1. Report the post/thread and leave it to the mods.
2. Ignore it all together.

I know it's going to be hard to ignore, since pointless threads, double posts, redundant threads, etc. aren't uncommon in the forum, but do your best. "Back-seat mods" are frowned upon in pretty much EVERY forum that I've joined.

What else can you do?

 

[SPANK]

Then you believe wrong. Warning accrue no points, but infractions do. Get to enough infraction points and a ban results. Different site rules being broken lead to different amounts of infractions points being awarded. So unless you are saying we should lower the infractions-leads-to-ban-level (and let's not forget you have had your moments in the past), then I am not sure what you are on about.

Yes but calling someone and asshole and a pussy should never be allowed on here. Mitchz06 got banned for much less. I do have my own infractions and this is because I have a since of humor not many understand. Someone called me a troll but instead of letting it get to me I like to roll with it and then began to call myself one because those people who said it, will get even more pissed that they didnt get a rise out of me.

Use the report button and if said member still doesn't learn, use it again and they will learn the hard way.

And there in lies to problem. I have been pushing it and i have seen action once. I have reported others (several times) and have seen nothing. And like I said before in the first post, I understand you guys have tons of stuff to do and it takes time but over a week?

Let me remind you I am not trying to disrespect you in anyway. And I'm sure you guys are doing your job on this site. Just needs more attention on the drift section. This section gets waaaay out of hand. Many people come in and have an eego the size of freedom tower and think their 🤬 dont stink. They try to pick fights with every little person and If we dont tell them whats right and whats wrong on this forum who will?

Please just try and keep a closer eye on this section. And I will do my part in trying to just report and ignore it.

 

[TJC_69]

Great thread with many valid points . 👍

I agree with the OP's statements & thoughts & sympathise with the workload of the moderators. 👍

But man , the Noobies with the X2010 threads really annoy me .
You point out the truth & they never like you for it .
Sometimes it's just funnier to watch their annoyance when they realise their precious X1 isn't tradeable ...

Karma is a 🤬

DLC threads - ( Where's my DLC / DLC Where is it / No DLC / PD Lost My DLC etc etc ... )

These are really annoying me right now. The mods made a DLC thread to help these questions but I bet these guys didn't even bother to look ....

 

[boshuter]

I've noticed the same kind of behavior in the marketplace, recently GTP has had a surge of new guys here, and when we get ten new threads all stating that some guy's got a X2010 and he wants to trade it. Does anybody know about trade limits? And when I point that out to them I get five people on my back saying that I don't have the right to tell that to them because I only have a few trades so far, and I get called a "mod wannabe." Are you frickin' kidding me?!?!? It's like you can't point out anything to anybody, and get even a little mad while you're at it. I'm sick of getting new people without a clue in here, and seeing them spam up the forum. Some of the threads asking for a car that goes over the trade limit should get a lock immediately, end of discussion. And people that don't even bother to use the search function, that should end in a locked thread, and if they do it repeatedly they should get infraction points. This forum is starting to look like a non-moderated cheat codes forum.

You've been here a little over a month and you are complaining about "new people"?

I get aggravated about stupid threads too, but not as aggravated as I get at the "wannabe mods", I was a mod on a computer overclocking forum for about 7 years and those guys are worse than the "noobs" or whatever you want to call them. Just let the mods handle it, there is more going on in the backround than you know. If you don't like the way a forum is moderated you are always free to find a place that suits you better.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

You've been here a little over a month and you are complaining about "new people"?

I get aggravated about stupid threads too, but not as aggravated as I get at the "wannabe mods", I was a mod on a computer overclocking forum for about 7 years and those guys are worse than the "noobs" or whatever you want to call them. Just let the mods handle it, there is more going on in the backround than you know. If you don't like the way a forum is moderated you are always free to find a place that suits you better.

I'm talking about the really new guys, like 20 posts.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

And there in lies to problem. I have been pushing it and i have seen action once. I have reported others (several times) and have seen nothing.

As has been explained to you, moderator action is between the moderators and the person on the receiving end of that action. It's really none of your business what comes next, even if you are the one who reported it, or if you feel you are the victim of a personal attack. If a post is in violation of the AUP, you can be confident that some action will be taken, even if the details of that action are not given to you.

And like I said before in the first post, I understand you guys have tons of stuff to do and it takes time but over a week?

Most complaints from the report post function are dealt with within hours of the alert being received. The action taken is at the discretion of the moderator who answers the call.

 

[Famine]

I see no effort on the moderators side.

You rarely will. Other members' Infractions are none of your business.

Mitchz06 got banned for much less.

Bearing in mind that other members' Infractions are none of your business, why do you presume to know what Infractions MitchZ06 - and his duplicate accounts - received to judge that?

I can tell you without fear of contradiction that your statement is untrue.

nothing is done about it.

That you know about. This is the important part. We don't post details of every Warning or Infraction every member receives. In fact we almost never post details of any Warning or Infraction any member receives. We will post approximations where members have been banned, in the Banned User Log, but not always.

When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

We will post approximations where members have been banned, in the Banned User Log, but not always.

I'd say "approximation" is being generous - most of the entries in the BUL are the moderators having a bit of fun. I mean, look at the entry for MitchZ06:

Apparently learned so much in the last 10 days that he had to purge something to make room. Pity he chose civility.

That doesn't tell you anything about why he was banned, except that he was banned.

 

[Darren.]

The very first entries to the BUL told why they got banned, for the records. Now its more Stand-Up comedy now.

 

[Famine]

I'll make a note for Jordan for GTP12 that staff are not allowed a sense of humour.

Incidentally:

Mitchz06 - 17th September 2011 - Two day ban: Confirmed our suspicion's that calling people 'muppets' was indeed the chapter struck from the final version of "How to win friends and influence people". Given a short break to read the rest of the book..

Mitchz06/NRGR/MF1GTR/MitchZR1/CCGT07 - 28th September 2011 - Apparently learned so much in the last 10 days that he had to purge something to make room. Pity he chose civility.

Two day ban after insulting people. Ten days later the ban was made permanent after a return to his uncivil behaviour. Across multiple accounts.

Seems pretty informative to me?

 

[DGiant2000]

The very first entries to the BUL told why they got banned, for the records. Now its more Stand-Up comedy now.

It would be a very dull and fairly pointless thread without a bit of comedy as no-one would read it. It's pretty obvious from the comments as well what the member was banned for, you just have to exercise a little of the grey matter.

 

[Prince.M5]

It would be a very dull and fairly pointless thread without a bit of comedy as no-one would read it. It's pretty obvious from the comments as well what the member was banned for, you just have to exercise a little of the grey matter.

Not just that, I think it's also (should be) a lesson to other members to not do anything that has been said in the Banned User Log. We spam, we swear, we whatever... Once banned, people will make fun of us. If we don't want to be made fun of and being laughed by other people, so please not copy anything that they have done then

But in anyway, I really don't see the issue for it to be a bit of a comedy in there. I enjoy reading the Banned User Log and at the same time, it taught me not to do what the banned did. And as DGiant2000 said, it's pretty clear and obvious of the messages being given to why each member was banned.

 

[TB]

When I wrote the "... Pity he chose civility" comment, there was no smile on my face. I wasn't going for a laugh. I meant it. In the approximately one year that I've been a Moderator, I've taken no pleasure from banning anyone. I've stated numerous times that I don't enjoy it. No one should enjoy banning people but it's a requirement of the job.

Moving on. As I stated previously, short of seeing that someone was banned, you shouldn't see that the staff has taken any action whatsoever. However you should trust that the appropriate action was taken. Better yet, don't even bother thinking about it.

 

[Akmuq]

The very first entries to the BUL told why they got banned, for the records. Now its more Stand-Up comedy now.

Isn't that better, as well as being funny it also shows that a banned member isn't going to wreck the site. If it just had the reasons why they were banned it would be a lot sadder and make it sound like a true loss to the site.

 

[Darren.]

I see your points everyone, and I do want the staff to have a sense of humor (obviously ).

Anyway, as the OP states, I've been having to use the report button a lot more recently. The first post to be approved by administrators system should be reinforced, as it worked and was very effective. To add to that point, it would stop a lot of "X1 4 Trade wat u gimme 4 it" threads and spam first posts.

 

[Negrumir]

Well, I've seen things get out of hand plenty of times. No matter what happens, you always feel like other people didn't get what was coming to them.

I only use the report button sparingly as I'm never quite sure if something is bad enough to warrant a report, and I don't want to just spam it at every little thing. Yeah, I've seen things where nothing gets done. I reported a post a couple days ago as the dude made five nearly identical threads about DLC car reviews, they could have easily been merged into one, but you can go see all five of them sitting in a row.

I think the moderation around this site is good, far above what you usually see. That said, they aren't perfect, I've seen one of them provoke a guy on (dude was in the wrong anyway but provocation is unnecessary even if it would undoubtedly be claimed as unintentional) but nonetheless, the dude got banned after an argument started between him and a mod.

It's things like that that make them look bad, the mod gets "publicly" involved by posting and arguing, but most of the stuff (where they're doing their job) is done in private, and not even a post in the offending thread is made. It makes it look like nothing gets done.

Also, I'm gonna be captain obvious here, but this thread is in the wrong place.
Edit: it was moved while I was posting. lol

And you're right, the drifting section (and the drag section) get constantly out of hand.

 

[E28]

When I wrote the "... Pity he chose civility" comment, there was no smile on my face. I wasn't going for a laugh. I meant it. In the approximately one year that I've been a Moderator, I've taken no pleasure from banning anyone. I've stated numerous times that I don't enjoy it. No one should enjoy banning people but it's a requirement of the job.

Moving on. As I stated previously, short of seeing that someone was banned, you shouldn't see that the staff has taken any action whatsoever. However you should trust that the appropriate action was taken. Better yet, don't even bother thinking about it.

I even feel a bit sorry for people I'm reporting sometimes.

 

[SPANK]

This nameless person is now in there insulting another user and making fun of his drift team. So sad...just sad.....

 

[DLR]

First off, let me tell you something, this is the internet. It is a place where people can be complete A-Holes with minimal punishment. What can we do to keep control of these people? Appoint moderators. Believe me, as I have been a mod before, it is A LOT OF WORK, MOST OF IT NO ONE SEES. Evaluating reported posts, get into all the little pathetic virtual fights people get in and end them, deleting posts and threads, sticking threads...etc. THEY ARE NOT ON GTP 24/7!! Yes they have lives as well and that always comes before anything online. So stop wining because the guy that "offended" you wasn't banned the minute you reported him.


I will give you an easy 3 step procedure how to deal with these jerks online:

1) Report the post
2) Forget what they said.
3) Move on with your life.

 

[Sphinx]

Sorry, only managed to go through 30 GTP reported emails (many already dealt with as it turns out) in my inbox today. Still many remaining but it's now 1.45am and I need to be up at 7am. Will try to do better next time.

 

[Coxis]

From what I know, people can receive warnings for first/not so bad offences and then infraction points, which can be from 5 to an insta-ban. Unless your reported guy does something so severe that warrants an instant ban, you probably won't "see" if the moderators actually took any action.

Even then the only thing you'll see is a "Banned" user title next to their names and their entry in the BUL, *if* one's created. It's made this way by design, since moderator actions are not to be known by all.