The tool in the GT has to go!

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I can't get past the last mission race with the GT's. I can beat the time with room to spare it's the beepity beepin beep beep beeeeeepin AI driver I can't deal with. When I shoot past him he pits me on the straights. When I block him he hits me so hard I spin or it black flags for contact. When he dose get by me cleanly he slams the breaks in an apex and I hit him black flagging the race. SOOO do I just run this 500 times until I get lucky or is there a way to deal with him?
 
Staquix
I can't get past the last mission race with the GT's. I can beat the time with room to spare it's the beepity beepin beep beep beeeeeepin AI driver I can't deal with. When I shoot past him he pits me on the straights. When I block him he hits me so hard I spin or it black flags for contact. When he dose get by me cleanly he slams the breaks in an apex and I hit him black flagging the race. SOOO do I just run this 500 times until I get lucky or is there a way to deal with him?
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I haven't done that mission race, but is it possible to simply stay behind him and not overtake until the end of the race?
 
Staquix
I can't get past the last mission race with the GT's. I can beat the time with room to spare it's the beepity beepin beep beep beeeeeepin AI driver I can't deal with. When I shoot past him he pits me on the straights. When I block him he hits me so hard I spin or it black flags for contact. When he dose get by me cleanly he slams the breaks in an apex and I hit him black flagging the race. SOOO do I just run this 500 times until I get lucky or is there a way to deal with him?
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Yes. S-5 Mission Race his horrible. I quit trying after I got bronze.
 
eran0004
I haven't done that mission race, but is it possible to simply stay behind him and not overtake until the end of the race?
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Sadly no, The AI car rubber bands so hard it would be impossible to stay behind the car without hitting it. And it's not really a race, it's a time trial with a rolling road block. You have to get a time under 7:50:00 to get the gold. I just ran it again and finally got across the line with a 7:51:03. Good enough for a silver but i was still yelling out loud the entire lap at the stupid way the AI drives. I must have started this event 50 times and got to the line once thanks to the AI tool. I wish I could pit him without flagging the race.
 
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Staquix
Sadly no, The AI car rubber bands so hard it would be imposable to stay behind the car without hitting it. And it's not really a race, it's a time trial with a rolling road block. You have to get a time under 7:50:00 to get the gold. I just ran it again and finally got across the line with a 7:51:03. Good enough for a silver but i was still yelling out loud the entire lap at the stupid way the AI drives. I must have started this event 50 times and got to the line once thanks to the AI tool. I wish I could pit him without flagging the race.
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I see. I'm afraid I can't help you, but I hope this scene from Bullitt is a morale boost. Picture the AI like this:

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What I did was get past the AI on like turn 5 or something, then it pretty much never bothered me for most of the lap. When I got to the long straight, I just blocked it and prevent it from passing me. It's actually very easy to block, as it doesn't actually seem to try very hard to get past you. Then just try to make it to the end from there. On this event, you can actually go completely off track without getting disqualified, as long as you don't hit anything. Just take it easy and try to avoid making mistakes, the gold time is incredibly generous.


eran0004
I haven't done that mission race, but is it possible to simply stay behind him and not overtake until the end of the race?
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He'd never go fast enough for you to get gold.
 
You need to pass him around Flugplatz and then drive the hell out of that GT40. It will prove to have a better corner entry speed and to carry a lot more speed through corners that you would expect; be careful around the Pflanzgarten tho as the car will try to take off and you may end up in the grass or, worse, smashing into a wall and being disqualified. He will most likely pass you before the Antoniusbuche, but by this point you should have the Gold firmly in your grasp and even driving behind the AI-piloted GT you should manage to do it. If you can block him on the straight even better, he'll lift at Antoniusbuche and approach Tiergarten very prudently.
 
Staquix
**** or is there a way to deal with him?
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There is no need to block the Ford GT

Do as Clyde Yellow says:

ClydeYellow
You need to pass him around Flugplatz and then drive the hell out of that GT40. It will prove to have a better corner entry speed and to carry a lot more speed through corners that you would expect; be careful around the Pflanzgarten tho as the car will try to take off and you may end up in the grass or, worse, smashing into a wall and being disqualified. He will most likely pass you before the Antoniusbuche, but by this point you should have the Gold firmly in your grasp and even driving behind the AI-piloted GT you should manage to do it.
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I recommend that you let the Ford GT pass you when he catches you on Dottinger and then catch his draft for a bit.

Good luck!
GTsail
 
GTsail290
There is no need to block the Ford GT

Do as Clyde Yellow says:

Good luck!
GTsail
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There's probably no need to, but I'd recommend it just so you wouldn't have an obstacle in your way that you can potentially hit and get disqualified. And I also wouldn't recommend driving the hell out of the GT40, as there is no need, and he'd probably just end up making mistakes and get frustrated. The gold time is very very generous, as in possible to beat by over 20 seconds generous.
 
Awong124
There's probably no need to, but I'd recommend it just so you wouldn't have an obstacle in your way that you can potentially hit and get disqualified. And I also wouldn't recommend driving the hell out of the GT40, as there is no need, and he'd probably just end up making mistakes and get frustrated. The gold time is very very generous, as in possible to beat by over 20 seconds generous.
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Yeah, I agree with you. You need to drive the Ford GT40 gently to stay on the track.

I just liked the quote: "drive the hell out of it" and didn't want to change it.:):D

The winning time is generous, like you say, so with practice this Mission can be won.

GTsail
 
I actually thought this was quite easy? (DS3 user,no Aids)

As others mentioned, overtake him early on the first few corners (don't know names) and as long as you know the track well you are done!

A tip would be to turn up the ingame brightness (EV+10) so its easier to see when it gets dark.
 
OK OK... your right I was trying to knock it out of the park but hey that's how I roll. I noticed after try 104 that I was trying to maintain the lead I got through Karussell and was pushing to hard though the technical Eschbach section. I started run 105 ignoring the clock and the car and ended up with a 7:43 and the gold.
Thanks for the moral support and the advise. :cheers:

I guess now all that's left to do is find the coffee cup in the front yard and tape up this window. :D j/k :p
 
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The A.I. will almost stop in the turn before the finish line. Don't worry about the A.I. overtaking you. It's program to let you pass in the last corner. Just catch it up. And don't race the A.I. from start. Just drive carefully. Race it before that final corner.
 
Awong124
There's probably no need to, but I'd recommend it just so you wouldn't have an obstacle in your way that you can potentially hit and get disqualified. And I also wouldn't recommend driving the hell out of the GT40, as there is no need, and he'd probably just end up making mistakes and get frustrated. The gold time is very very generous, as in possible to beat by over 20 seconds generous.
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I tend to be a very calm driving demon, so forgive me for using that expression. Of course you need to be smooth, it's not a modern car and it doesn't have modern brakes and suspensions, but I was quite surprised by how responsive it is, mostly because I'm used to drive this car in other, similar games developed for another platform. Many times I expected to end my Gold attempts spectacularly crashing into a wall only for the GT40 to steadily keep all fours on the black stuff. And generally speaking, it's quite easy to drive this car to its limits.

Also, I apparently forgot that I failed on my first attempt because I had to swerve to avoid him at Tiergarten and ended up crashing at full speed in the Armco at Hohenrain. Your advice is very sound, but you should have enough time left to slow down and follow him through the corner, and by blocking him you risk being bumped off at Antoniusbuche or just being disqualified because he touched you. I remember letting him pass on the Dottinger Hohe, taking the Tiergarten at granny speed right behind him and still golding it with great ease.
 
Let me get this straight. You have to get past a Ford GT in a GT40 Mk I AND Nail a less than 7:43 lap time on the Nordschleife correct?
 
sparkytooth
Let me get this straight. You have to get past a Ford GT in a GT40 Mk I AND Nail a less than 7:43 lap time on the Nordschleife correct?
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You only have to do a lap in less that 7.43; of course, to do so you'll have to keep the GT behind you for the better part of the lap.

Oh, and the day/night cycle is set to demon speed here, so by the time you'll reach the Karussell, it will be night.
 
ClydeYellow
You only have to do a lap in less that 7.43; of course, to do so you'll have to keep the GT behind you for the better part of the lap.

Oh, and the day/night cycle is set to demon speed here, so by the time you'll reach the Karussell, it will be night.
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Keeping the GT at bay sounds easy enough, after you overtake him (The tricky part, as the ring is really narrow). Later on it would become a tad bit tricky on the straights due to the GT's power advantage. The Ring is pretty much my home, Lapped it with countless machines before. The GT40, statiscally looks capable of setting a low 7:30s time if you push it hard enough.
 
ClydeYellow
Your advice is very sound, but you should have enough time left to slow down and follow him through the corner, and by blocking him you risk being bumped off at Antoniusbuche or just being disqualified because he touched you. I remember letting him pass on the Dottinger Hohe, taking the Tiergarten at granny speed right behind him and still golding it with great ease.
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But the AI backs right off at the left kink on the straight, so it would be nowhere near you in the braking zone. So basically if you block it on the straight, it would back off at the kink and shouldn't be able to touch you unless you brake very early.


sparkytooth
Let me get this straight. You have to get past a Ford GT in a GT40 Mk I AND Nail a less than 7:43 lap time on the Nordschleife correct?
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The gold time is actually 7:50, but the AI doesn't actually go out of its way to make it difficult to pass.


sparkytooth
Keeping the GT at bay sounds easy enough, after you overtake him (The tricky part, as the ring is really narrow). Later on it would become a tad bit tricky on the straights due to the GT's power advantage. The Ring is pretty much my home, Lapped it with countless machines before. The GT40, statiscally looks capable of setting a low 7:30s time if you push it hard enough.
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I did it in 7:33 and I wasn't even pushing 10/10. I was maybe pushing 8/10 and maybe 9/10 in certain places. So it's probably possible to do it in mid to low 7:20s.
 
Actually, braking at the kink after the Dottinger Hohe straight is a terrible idea, unless you're in really close racing.
 
Awong124
But the AI backs right off at the left kink on the straight, so it would be nowhere near you in the braking zone. So basically if you block it on the straight, it would back at the kink and shouldn't be able to touch you unless you brake very early.
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That's correct... Most of the times. Sometimes the AI will forget where's the brake pedal and smash into you in a very homicidal manner. I can only imagine the tiny dude in the GT laughing maniacally as my car hit the Armco.
 
I'm not even going to attempt this Mission for another year. I'm terrible on the Ring.
Plus it's time change as well?
 
I overtake him after that S-bend, before the first longer straight, then keep the lead until the final straight where I just let him go past me as there is no purpose in blocking him. I got 7:43 with AI being about 5-6 seconds ahead of me.
 
I golded it first try with 10 seconds to spare. The track was too narrow for the AI to re-pass me. On the straight I let him pass so I could draft him. I found mission S-4 to be way worse.
 
zujca
I overtake him after that S-bend, before the first longer straight, then keep the lead until the final straight where I just let him go past me as there is no purpose in blocking him. I got 7:43 with AI being about 5-6 seconds ahead of me.
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You actually still get gold if you come in 2nd? That would have been nice to know...
 

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