The Toyota 88C is in, no pics

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I say again, why was the 88C included? Did it have some special reason, was it like Toyota's first group C car or what? Because it wasn't that fast I thought.
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Inclusion is possibly based on results from the All Japan Sport-Prototype car Championship. I will look into it further.
 
Toyota's entry into sports prototypes began with the 1982 Tom's 82C which used a Toyota Turbo Inline-4 engine and a body developed by Dome. Tom's developed the 82C into the 83C, 84C, and then the 85C, which was the first time that the Toyota powered prototypes were entered into LeMans (they had previously run the All-Japan Sportscar Championship). In 1986 Tom's entered one 86C while Dome entered their own 86C.

Finally in 1987, Toyota took over the project as their own factory effort (thus making the Tom's 86C into the Toyota 87C), and continued on with the 88C and it's Turbo V8 variant, the 88C-V (V for V8), then again continuing on with the V8 in the 89C-V, 90C-V, 91C-V, and 92C-V. However by 1992, the 92C-V had been moved down to C2 class, so Toyota launched the TS010 with a faster V10 to compete in the C1 class. They did the same in 1993 with the TS010 and revised 93C-V.

In 1994, Group C was dead and Toyota continued on with their 94C-V, now sporting a Turbo V6 instead of it's Turbo V8.

1994 ended Toyota's run in prototypes. After then, they continued with the use of the SARD MC8R (a highly modified MR2) and Supra LM in GT1 class in 1995 and 1996. In 1997 they decided not to run, instead concentrating on their full assault in 1998 and 1999 with the TS020 GT-One.

Since 1999 no Toyota powerplant of any kind has been in LeMans.

Toyota results at LeMans

1985:
#36 Tom's 85C-Toyota (C1 Class) - 12th

1986:
#36 Tom's 86C-Toyota (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#37 Dome 86C-Toyota (C1 Class) - Not Classified (Final Lap Too Slow)

1987:
#36 Toyota 87C (C1 Class) - DNF (Out Of Fuel)
#37 Toyota 87C (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)

1988:
#36 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - 12th
#37 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - 24th

1989:
#36 Toyota 89C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#37 Toyota 89C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#38 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)

1990:
#36 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - 6th
#37 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#38 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)

1991:
No Toyota's entered

1992:
#7 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#8 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 8th
#33 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 2nd
#34 Toyota 92C-V (C2 Class) - 9th
#35 Toyota 92C-V (C2 Class) - 5th (1st in C2 Class)

1993:
#22 Toyota 93C-V (C2 Class) - 5th (1st in C2 Class)
#23 Toyota 93C-V (C2 Class) - 6th
#36 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 4th
#37 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - DNF (Gearbox)
#38 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 8th

1994:
#1 Toyota 94C-V (LMP1/C90 Class) - 2nd (1st in LMP1/C90 Class)
#4 Toyota 94C-V (LMP1/C90 Class) - 4th

1995:
#26 SARD MC8R-Toyota (GT1 Class) - DNF (Clutch)
#27 Toyota Supra LM (GT1 Class) - 14th

1996:
#46 SARD MC8R-Toyota (GT1 Class) - 24th
#57 Toyota Supra LM (GT1 Class) - DNF (Accident)

1997:
No Toyotas entered

1998:
#27 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - 9th
#28 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#29 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - DNF (Gearbox)

1999:
#1 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - DNF (Puncture)
#2 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - DNF (Accident)
#3 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - 2nd

So, going by LeMans results, the Toyota TS010 is the most successful of their sports prototypes. Maybe the 88C is special because it's Toyota's first prototypes to really finish...
 
Looks like Kaz picked what cars to race. I hope we can do the same aswell. I can see it now, my line up; Bentley Speed8 vs Audi R8 vs 787b vs BMW LMR vs C60 vs R390. Man, what a race that'd be :)
 
The359
Toyota's entry into sports prototypes began with the 1982 Tom's 82C which used a Toyota Turbo Inline-4 engine and a body developed by Dome. Tom's developed the 82C into the 83C, 84C, and then the 85C, which was the first time that the Toyota powered prototypes were entered into LeMans (they had previously run the All-Japan Sportscar Championship). In 1986 Tom's entered one 86C while Dome entered their own 86C.

Finally in 1987, Toyota took over the project as their own factory effort (thus making the Tom's 86C into the Toyota 87C), and continued on with the 88C and it's Turbo V8 variant, the 88C-V (V for V8), then again continuing on with the V8 in the 89C-V, 90C-V, 91C-V, and 92C-V. However by 1992, the 92C-V had been moved down to C2 class, so Toyota launched the TS010 with a faster V10 to compete in the C1 class. They did the same in 1993 with the TS010 and revised 93C-V.

In 1994, Group C was dead and Toyota continued on with their 94C-V, now sporting a Turbo V6 instead of it's Turbo V8.

1994 ended Toyota's run in prototypes. After then, they continued with the use of the SARD MC8R (a highly modified MR2) and Supra LM in GT1 class in 1995 and 1996. In 1997 they decided not to run, instead concentrating on their full assault in 1998 and 1999 with the TS020 GT-One.

Since 1999 no Toyota powerplant of any kind has been in LeMans.
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Good summary…thanks Matt.

Edit: Footnote of interest -1996 TOMS Toyota "Lumpy" LMP.
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/tomlumpy.html
 
yea dude body kits would be great for this game, but they deffinetly have to be functional or you should be able to buy gt wings diffusers so that it actually adds down force to your car becasue most stock car need that down force for tracktion.
 
The359
Toyota's entry into sports prototypes began with the 1982 Tom's 82C which used a Toyota Turbo Inline-4 engine and a body developed by Dome. Tom's developed the 82C into the 83C, 84C, and then the 85C, which was the first time that the Toyota powered prototypes were entered into LeMans (they had previously run the All-Japan Sportscar Championship). In 1986 Tom's entered one 86C while Dome entered their own 86C.

Finally in 1987, Toyota took over the project as their own factory effort (thus making the Tom's 86C into the Toyota 87C), and continued on with the 88C and it's Turbo V8 variant, the 88C-V (V for V8), then again continuing on with the V8 in the 89C-V, 90C-V, 91C-V, and 92C-V. However by 1992, the 92C-V had been moved down to C2 class, so Toyota launched the TS010 with a faster V10 to compete in the C1 class. They did the same in 1993 with the TS010 and revised 93C-V.

In 1994, Group C was dead and Toyota continued on with their 94C-V, now sporting a Turbo V6 instead of it's Turbo V8.

1994 ended Toyota's run in prototypes. After then, they continued with the use of the SARD MC8R (a highly modified MR2) and Supra LM in GT1 class in 1995 and 1996. In 1997 they decided not to run, instead concentrating on their full assault in 1998 and 1999 with the TS020 GT-One.

Since 1999 no Toyota powerplant of any kind has been in LeMans.

Toyota results at LeMans

1985:
#36 Tom's 85C-Toyota (C1 Class) - 12th

1986:
#36 Tom's 86C-Toyota (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#37 Dome 86C-Toyota (C1 Class) - Not Classified (Final Lap Too Slow)

1987:
#36 Toyota 87C (C1 Class) - DNF (Out Of Fuel)
#37 Toyota 87C (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)

1988:
#36 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - 12th
#37 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - 24th

1989:
#36 Toyota 89C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#37 Toyota 89C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#38 Toyota 88C (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)

1990:
#36 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - 6th
#37 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#38 Toyota 90C-V (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)

1991:
No Toyota's entered

1992:
#7 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - DNF (Engine)
#8 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 8th
#33 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 2nd
#34 Toyota 92C-V (C2 Class) - 9th
#35 Toyota 92C-V (C2 Class) - 5th (1st in C2 Class)

1993:
#22 Toyota 93C-V (C2 Class) - 5th (1st in C2 Class)
#23 Toyota 93C-V (C2 Class) - 6th
#36 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 4th
#37 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - DNF (Gearbox)
#38 Toyota TS010 (C1 Class) - 8th

1994:
#1 Toyota 94C-V (LMP1/C90 Class) - 2nd (1st in LMP1/C90 Class)
#4 Toyota 94C-V (LMP1/C90 Class) - 4th

1995:
#26 SARD MC8R-Toyota (GT1 Class) - DNF (Clutch)
#27 Toyota Supra LM (GT1 Class) - 14th

1996:
#46 SARD MC8R-Toyota (GT1 Class) - 24th
#57 Toyota Supra LM (GT1 Class) - DNF (Accident)

1997:
No Toyotas entered

1998:
#27 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - 9th
#28 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - DNF (Accident)
#29 Toyota GT-One (GT1 Class) - DNF (Gearbox)

1999:
#1 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - DNF (Puncture)
#2 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - DNF (Accident)
#3 Toyota GT-One (LMP Class) - 2nd

So, going by LeMans results, the Toyota TS010 is the most successful of their sports prototypes. Maybe the 88C is special because it's Toyota's first prototypes to really finish...
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wow Toyota were accident prone...where'd they find such unlucky drivers?
 
As for Toyota/Tom's run in the All-Japan Sports Prototype Championship (JSPC), here are their results over the years:

1983:
#9 Tom's 82C-Toyota - Round 1 (2nd)
#17/#19 Tom's 83C-Toyota - Round 2 (2nd), Round 3 (9th)
#81 Misaka Speed C-Toyota - Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (8th)

1984:
#17/#38 Dome 84C-Toyota - Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (7th)
#19/#36 Tom's 83C-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF), Round 4 (DNF)
#19 Tom's 84C-Toyota - Round 3 (DNF)
#35 Tom's 83C-Toyota - Round 4 (12th)
#36 Tom's 84C-Toyota - Round 4 (DNF)
#78 Misaka Speed 83C-Toyota - Round 4 (DNF)

1985:
#3/#45 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (6th), Round 4 (6th), Round 5 (4th), Round 6 (4th)
#8/#57 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 2 (8th), Round 3 (4th), Round 4 (3rd), Round 5 (13th), Round 6 (DNF)
#35 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 5 (7th)
#36 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF), Round 2 (7th), Round 3 (2nd), Round 4 (2nd), Round 5 (3rd), Round 6 (DNF)
#37 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 2 (5th), Round 3 (3rd), Round 5 (10th), Round 6 (DNF)
#38 Dome 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (1st), Round 2 (6th), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (21st), Round 5 (9th), Round 6 (2nd)

1986:
#3 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF), Round 2 (2nd), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (7th), Round 6 (5th)
#5/#45 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (7th), Round 2 (DNS), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (14th), Round 6 (DNF)
#12/#34 LM06C-Toyota - Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (16th), Round 6 (10th)
#19 SARD MC86X-Toyota - Round 3 (7th), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (23rd)
#35 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (20th), Round 2 (9th)
#35 Tom's 86C-Toyota - Round 3 (4th), Round 4 (2nd), Round 5 (24th), Round 6 (DNF)
#36 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (4th)
#36 Tom's 86C-Toyota - Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (9th), Round 6 (DNF)
#37 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 1 (3rd), Round 2 (8th), Round 5 (DNF)
#37 Tom's 86C-Toyota - Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (4th), Round 6 (9th)
#38 Dome 84C-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF)
#38 Dome 86C-Toyota - Round 2 (4th), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (28th), Round 6 (6th)
#46 Tom's 85C-Toyota - Round 5 (DNF)

1987:
#3/#45 Tom's 86C-Toyota - Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (5th), Round 4 (9th), Round 5 (DNF), Round 6 (11th)
#7/#77 LM07-Toyota - Round 1 (20th), Round 2 (7th), Round 3 (10th), Round 4 (7th), Round 5 (21st), Round 6 (DNF)
#36 Toyota 87C - Round 1 (3rd), Round 2 (1st), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (1st), Round 5 (DNF), Round 6 (DNF)
#37 Toyota 87C - Round 1 (DNS), Round 2 (DNS), Round 3 (DNS), Round 5 (DNS), Round 6 (DNF)
#38 Dome 87C-Toyota - Round 1 (16th), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (3rd), round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (DNF), Round 6 (DNS)
#50 SARD MC87S-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (9th), Round 4 (17th), Round 5 (17th), Round 6 (7th)

1988:
#3 Tom's 86C-Toyota - Round 1 (DNF), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (14th)
#3/#45 Toyota 87C - Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (13th), Round 6 (DNF)
#36 Toyota 88C - Round 1 (6th), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (6th)
#36 Toyota 88C-V - Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (16th), Round 6 (22nd)
#37 Toyota 88C - Round 1 (7th), Round 2 (5th), Round 3 (10th), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (5th)
#37 Toyota 88C-V - Round 6 (21st)
#50 SARD MC88S-Toyota - Round 2 (10th), Round 3 (11th), Round 4 (6th), Round 5 (DNF), Round 6 (DNF)

1989:
#36 Toyota 89C-V - Round 1 (5th), Round 2 (8th), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (2nd), Round 5 (DNF)
#38 Toyota 89C-V - Round 3 (3rd), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (1st)
#50 Toyota 89C-V - Round 1 (DNF), Round 2 (10th), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (18th)

1990:
#36 Toyota 90C-V - Round 1 (1st), Round 2 (DNS), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (DQ), Round 5 (6th)
#36 Toyota 89C-V - Round 6 (DNF)
#37 Toyota 90C-V - Round 4 (3rd), Round 5 (8th), Round 6 (DNF)
#39 Toyota 89C-V - Round 1 (7th), Round 3 (7th), Round 4 (9th), Round 5 (5th), Round 6 (1st)

1991:
#36 Toyota 90C-V - Round 1 (3rd)
#36 Toyota 91C-V - Round 2 (3rd), Round 3 (1st), Round 4 (4th), Round 5 (10th), Round 6 (2nd), Round 7 (2nd)
#37 Toyota 90C-V - Round 1 (6th), Round 2 (5th)
#37 Toyota 91C-V - Round 3 (3rd), Round 4 (DNF), Round 5 (1st), Round 6 (DNF), Round 7 (5th)
#38 Toyota 90C-V - Round 1 (11th)
#38 Toyota 91C-V - Round 2 (8th), Round 3 (DNF), Round 4 (1st), Round 5 (7th), Round 6 (DNF), Round 7 (DNF)

1992:
#7 Toyota TS010 - Round 5 (1st), Round 6 (4th)
#36/#8 Toyota 92C-V - Round 1 (5th), Round 2 (5th), Round 3 (2nd), Round 4 (2nd), Round 5 (3rd), Round 6 (5th)
#36 Toyota TS010 - Round 6 (1st)
#39 Toyota 92C-V - Round 1 (4th), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (6th), Round 4 (3rd), Round 5 (4th), Round 6 (8th)
#99 Toyota 92C-V - Round 1 (3rd), Round 2 (DNF), Round 3 (4th), Round 4 (5th), Round 5 (DNS), Round 6 (7th)

The Toyota 88C was certainly not their greatest car, it was quickly phased out of the JSPC by the 88C-V and did admirably in the 1988 24 Hours, but other then that Toyota/Tom's has had much better cars.
 
cobragt
Looks like Kaz picked what cars to race. I hope we can do the same aswell. I can see it now, my line up; Bentley Speed8 vs Audi R8 vs 787b vs BMW LMR vs C60 vs R390. Man, what a race that'd be :)
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Yes indeed.....as long as the AI is good :indiff:
 
One correction: Toyota's entry into sportscars and LeMans started in 1975 with the Sigma MC75, which featured a Toyota 2.3L Turbo I4. The Sigma failed to finish.

Dome also ran a heavily modified Celica Turbo in 1980 but failed to qualify.
 
Solid Lifters
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This is the 88C.
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I had a 1/48 model car like this while I was 8 years old
that model car came with some candies (bought from 7-Eleven in Hong Kong)
very nice car indeed
 
I wouldn't say this is confirmation of the car being in the game. The guy who wrote the article could have made a mistake and just misnamed the GT-One. Didn't we see this video from that event already that showed the Bentley racing against the other prototypes he mentioned and wasn't there a GT-One there and not the 88C. Don't get too excited yet.
 
8400RPM
I wouldn't say this is confirmation of the car being in the game. The guy who wrote the article could have made a mistake and just misnamed the GT-One. Didn't we see this video from that event already that showed the Bentley racing against the other prototypes he mentioned and wasn't there a GT-One there and not the 88C. Don't get too excited yet.
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Well, that is a possibility. But, I doubt it. It's also a possibility he meant the Nissan 88C belowl. Again, I doubt it.

Le_Mans-1988-06-12-023.jpg
 
There is a vid out with the R8 in it but there isn't a gt one shown. The cars shown are the 787b, bmw v12, the R8, and speed 8. So there are 2 other cars that werent shown.
 
Outside of Japan, the only results I can find for Toyota are from the 1989 World Championship series where the #37 Taka-Q Toyota 89C-V with lackluster results and then in 1990 with the #36 Denso Toyota 90C-V and #37 Taka-Q Toyota 90C-V, again with unimpressive results (they tended to run out of fuel a lot).

The TS010s did participate in 1992 with some decent results.

I still think the TS010 would be a better Group C car to have in GT4 then the 88C.
 
The359
Outside of Japan, the only results I can find for Toyota are from the 1989 World Championship series where the #37 Taka-Q Toyota 89C-V with lackluster results and then in 1990 with the #36 Denso Toyota 90C-V and #37 Taka-Q Toyota 90C-V, again with unimpressive results (they tended to run out of fuel a lot).

The TS010s did participate in 1992 with some decent results.

I still think the TS010 would be a better Group C car to have in GT4 then the 88C.
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The 92C-V cars were very successful in 92. But, they were C2 cars.

Le_Mans-1992-06-21-034.jpg
 
I wonder, this time around if we will be able to pick how many cars we can race against and pick the cars we want to race against. I wonder this because during tgs, I saw a pic of a Orcea Viper on the HSR with a racer vette and the street version s7, that's only 3 cars but a street car going against 2 racers? Then in the preview at that jgtc site, the editor mentions kaz picking a Speed8 and dailing up his opponents: the 787b; 88c, LMR V12, and R8, now that's only 5 cars. When we see a gt4 vid with high powered sports cars; lets say a GT one with a 787b car, we normally see weaker cars in the race line up, like a orcea viper, or race car vette but we didn't see that in the vid featuring the Speed8 and R8. We saw what looks to be a equal in power race and no GTS cars were seen in sight. I really believe Kaz will give gt fans the freedom to make our own races now :)
 
The359
Toyota's entry into sports prototypes began with the 1982 Tom's 82C which used a Toyota Turbo Inline-4 engine and a body developed by Dome. Tom's developed the 82C into the 83C, 84C, and then the 85C, which was the first time that the Toyota powered prototypes were entered into LeMans (they had previously run the All-Japan Sportscar Championship). In 1986 Tom's entered one 86C while Dome entered their own 86C.
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The359
One correction: Toyota's entry into sportscars and LeMans started in 1975 with the Sigma MC75, which featured a Toyota 2.3L Turbo I4. The Sigma failed to finish.
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This isn't entirely true. Toyota started a Sports Prototype programme in the mid/late 60's called the 'Toyota 7'

"Toyota ventured into the prototype category, and although it was a big step forward, the Toyota 7 was powered by a 3-litre V8 Toyota 300hp engine whereas the Nissan R381 and Taki Racing Lola T70 both were powered by an over 5-litre V8 Chevrolet 450hp engine. With this obvious handicap, the Toyota 7 was never able to win a Japanese GP.
However, the Toyota 7 showed its strength in the various endurance races it entered. In 1968 the 1st Japanese Can-Am race - a race that was on a par with the Japanese GP - was held with many entrants joining from overseas. Yukio Fukuzawa led the Toyota 7 to 4th place, followed by 3 more Toyota 7s, dominating 5th to 7th positions. At the 2nd Can-Am race, Minoru Kawai was standing on the centre of the podium. Later Toyota was able to prove Toyota 7's potential by winning the Fuji 1000 km, Suzuka 12 Hours, and Suzuka 1000 km.
The following year, 1969, Toyota came out with a new 5-litre Toyota 7, which made its debut at the July Fuji 1000 km race. Expectations grew in Toyota for the Japanese GP, however, Nissan came out with a 6-litre engine and Toyota finished in 3rd to 5th positions. One month later, Minoru Kawai was able to hold back the Americans to win the Japanese Can-Am race with a refined Toyota 7."

Here is a picture of the very last Toyota 7 from the Goodwood Festival a few years back and some others from Fuji - check out the size of those turbos on that 800bhp monster!!!:
 

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Toyota 88C. How sweet she is. Alluring lady she may not really be, but she seems like a nice car to take around a race track, no?

What's sad is that even with this machine, it didn't Le Mans. But then in 1999, Toyota were in a "close, but no cigar" deal again. I like the BMW V12 LMR, but had everything gone right, the Toyota GT-One would have owned Le Mans. But, that's racing. Would like to race it, though. In fact, I'd like to race almost any car in GT4. Just that... bring on GT4!!!

Oh wait, so THAT'S the 88C? You know, that car is what we call a "sexy beast." I bet GT4 will prove it.

By the way... gotta love The359. Good job.
 

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