There Better Be Less Japanese Cars With The 200 New Cars

[Sage Ages]

There better be more American and Australian cars

Fixed.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Well, I would be fine with the japanese car majority if they weren't so bland and put just a bunch of the same models around. For the next new set of japanese cars, I hope PD tries to choose some that have more significant differences rather than just the region or badge.

 

[R5]

Percentages can be deceiving. I know there are duplicates but the nearly 40% of cars in GT5 that are not Japanese, represents almost as many cars in the entire Forza 4 lineup.

I'll do the maths later, but the amount of other cars, as said, is probably the same as the FM4 car list in terms of numbers.

Now, I'll just add this on. Why is this a problem? Japanese cars a cool, look at the NSX, MX5, Furai, FTO, GTR. Cool cars. European/American cars may be unrepresented compared to Japanese cars, but it's still represented. All you can and should ask for.

 

[F1 fan]

Japanese

Just an FYI, this is an ethnic slur.

 

[jabofu]

I dont think that there are many new japanese cars they could add. We already have the latest GTR, 370z, BRZ/GT86, Impreza, Evo, LFA, S2000, and so on. We hopefully see premium conversions of iconic japanes cars like the Supra MKIV or the AE86. What we saw of the new presented cars looked fairly europeen and american.

 

[Earth]

With GT5 Polyphony Digital has already cut back on Japanese cars. They only make up about 45% of the premium car list. Still too much but its better

 

[Bellus505]

I'll do the maths later, but the amount of other cars, as said, is probably the same as the FM4 car list in terms of numbers.

Now, I'll just add this on. Why is this a problem? Japanese cars a cool, look at the NSX, MX5, Furai, FTO, GTR. Cool cars. European/American cars may be unrepresented compared to Japanese cars, but it's still represented. All you can and should ask for.

40% of 1064, so about 426 of GT5 are non Japanese cars. Forza 4 has 670 cars in total, that is more. 136 of Forza 4 were Japanese cars. So Forza 4 has 534 non-Japanese cars. Then GT5 failed miserably with their 800 standard models that look sort of bad and have no finished interiors. Also missing out on many iconic legendary Lambrogini, Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW and Volkswagen cars.


I am hoping that 30% at the most of the 200 new cars are Japanese.

 

[R5]

30%? Because, yeah. That's likely. 1200 cars, so 360 Japanese cars? A huge cut down and it'll mean the potential loss of much regarded cars such as the HSV-010, 2000gt, Supra, AE86, Celica WRC car and many more. Don't like the Japanese bias? Get over it. No one forces you to buy the cars. Or the game for that matter.

 

[Mr_X]

Don't care where the new cars come from really

 

[eran0004]

In GT1 and maybe GT2 sure. They first made a small game with cars from their home country. But now 15 years later with a worldwide brand, the Japanese bias is absolutely ridiculous. Give us more European and American cars.

The bias isn't that bad actually. In GT5 there aren't that many American cars, but when it comes to premium road cars there is an even balance between European and Japanese cars.

The Japanese race cars are still in majority, as there are many Super GT cars in the game.

(Unique race cars are race cars that has a unique model, and not just a different livery)

 

[Tornado]

European/American cars may be unrepresented compared to Japanese cars, but it's still represented. All you can and should ask for.

What does this even mean?

30%? Because, yeah. That's likely. 1200 cars, so 360 Japanese cars?

That's not what he said. He said 30% of the new 200.

A huge cut down and it'll mean the potential loss of much regarded cars such as the HSV-010, 2000gt, Supra, AE86, Celica WRC car and many more.

Even if it was what he said it wouldn't mean the loss of Premium cars like the HSV, and to be frank when PD drops the Standards it would be no great loss if a sizeable portion of the Japanese cars currently there didn't come back.

Don't like the Japanese bias? Get over it. No one forces you to buy the cars. Or the game for that matter.

Ah. There we go. Was wondering when someone was going to trot that out.

 

[DawgCCCP]

These kind of threads always crack me up.

Like there is something you can do about it..

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

It generally goes like this throughout the world.

Japanese: Innovation
European: Style + Power
American: Extreme Fuel Consumption

Rather brief but you get the idea.

*Fixed

 

[braiks]

They have a lot of japanese cars in the entry level and also a lot of them are standard. When you go to the faster cars and supercars it's more even. Just give us koenigsegg.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'll do the maths later, but the amount of other cars, as said, is probably the same as the FM4 car list in terms of numbers.

Now, I'll just add this on. Why is this a problem? Japanese cars a cool, look at the NSX, MX5, Furai, FTO, GTR. Cool cars. European/American cars may be unrepresented compared to Japanese cars, but it's still represented. All you can and should ask for.

I don't think it's a problem at all. I was just pointing out that when you use percentages it can be deceiving when what we are most concerned about is total numbers. There are lots of cars I'd like to see that aren't in the game, but it is what it is, and with the heavy association with Nissan that PD has and being based in Japan, I don't think it's going to change significantly any time soon. I expect the current DLC trend of less than 50% Japanese cars to continue.

 

[amar212]

(Unique race cars are race cars that has a unique model, and not just a different livery)

There are no many "different livery" models between Premium race models in GT5 - at least not as I can think of - with exception of Ferrari F1 models, Lexus DTM, TC DLC cars and Audi LeMans? (maybe few more, those are one I can think of from my head - Audi if there is choice between yellow and red one under the same vehicle, I can't remember now).

For example, all 2009 Supra JGTC models are not the same. Every one of them has different characteristics, despite sharing nominally same or similar PP values and looking similar.

It is like that since the very first game. If there are color-related choice for the same car in Dealership, there you can talk about the "different livery for the same unique car" (as there are many examples available among Standard models, such as Camaro Race Car, S2000 Race Car, etc - same model available with different color/livery).

But if same model-year car is sold separately within Dealership, it is really a different car, despite seeming the same. Two JGTC cars are not same, despite being *built* from the same *base-model*. PD was always giving them small differences in either suspension (handling), aerodynamics or power they develop after break-in (not only oil-change but full break-in).

So, every one of those "different livery" models are in-fact the unique models.

 

[Furinkazen]

There are no "different livery" models between Premium race models in GT5 - at least not as I can think of - with exception of Ferrari F1 models, Lexus DTM and TC DLC cars.

For example, all 2009 Supra GT models are not the same. Every one of them has different characteristics, despite sharing nominally same or similar PP values.

It is like that since the very first game. If there are color-related choice for the same car in Dealership, there you can talk about the livery. But if same model-year car is sold separately within Dealership, it is really a different car, despite seeming same. Two JGTC cars are not same, despite being *built* from the same *base-model*. PD was always giving them small differences in either suspension (handling), aerodynamics or power they develop after break-in (not only oil-change but full break-in).

So, every one of those "different livery" models are in-fact the unique models.

Same case with NASCAR, they are not just mere livery swaps.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Oh brother another one of these threads.... There are some new Japanese cars I want in GT6 you know, such as the Acura NSX concept and the Subaru Impreza concept. Freakin on the standard's side are the dominators...

 

[MeanElf]

legacyMACHINE
Don't like the Japanese bias? Get over it. No one forces you to buy the cars. Or the game for that matter.

...Ah. There we go. Was wondering when someone was going to trot that out.

Still a vaild comment though, certainly as the OP seems to have completely overlooked the previous four title's makeup - makes you wonder really what the purpose of the thread is...

 

[snowgt]

Same case with NASCAR, they are not just mere livery swaps.

Is there any proof of that? As far as I've seen, all NASCAR models have completely identical performance, even between 2010 and 2011 models.

So, that makes 3(6) car models, when you count them separately, although underneath they're the same, instead of 12(23) with different liveries. (cars in brackets including DLC)

There's also 3 premium GT500-NSX's that are identical. (Arta, Raybrig and Takata)
There's 2 identical Peugeot 908 HDI's.

Since these cars are all part of different racing teams though, it's understandable that they are kept as seperate models in the dealership, as no team likes their car to be displayed as interchangeable with another team.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Don't like the Japanese bias? Get over it. No one forces you to buy the cars. Or the game for that matter.

Wonder how many times we're going to hear this classic argument against any criticisms of GT during GT6's lifetime.

Still a vaild comment though, certainly as the OP seems to have completely overlooked the previous four title's makeup - makes you wonder really what the purpose of the thread is...

Just because something in the game has been a certain way for a long time, doesn't mean it should stay that way forever.

 

[Reddee]

Give me more Japanese cars not less.

 

[R5]

Wonder how many times we're going to hear this classic argument against any criticisms of GT during GT6's lifetime.

Just because something in the game has been a certain way for a long time, doesn't mean it should stay that way forever.

Well if you take a car, then complain that another car can do everything better for the same price, in your eyes. Why buy the first car? Think of it like that.

 

[Tornado]

Still a vaild comment though, certainly as the OP seems to have completely overlooked the previous four title's makeup

When Johnnypenso used the same argument on the first page, it was valid because he was replying to the silly "or else" sentiment in the original post. "Or else what" meaning the games will continue to sell.

When legacyMACHINE used it he was responding to a specific post, which means it basically became what it almost always means when someone says "if you don't like it, don't buy it." ie. "I can't actually rebut what you said, but I'm right anyway."


As he helpfully just reiterated above.

makes you wonder really what the purpose of the thread is...

Good question, since there are two other threads that are almost identical.

 

[R5]

All I'm saying is what can people do about it? Sit here and argue. That's all. We have to wait until GT6 appears to know if they've made it more balanced.

This is all speculation, no hard evidence that any Japanese cars will be in (Deltawing is technically American, as it is Highcroft racing, and the GTA demo could be misleading)

 

[Pupik]

Oh. Well, yes, the "or we'll break his legs" style of demands never cease to entertain.

The thread title appears to be lifted from The Onion's editorial department.

They'd better, or I won't buy GT8! Or 9! Well, not brand new...

 

[R5]

Is The Onion an American thing?

 

[Ills1999]

Is The Onion an American thing?

The Onion is an online newsmagazine which deals heavily in satire in order to be able to get the truth out in heavily censored areas (USA included)

 

[R5]

The Onion is an online newsmagazine which deals heavily in satire in order to be able to get the truth out in heavily censored areas (USA included)

Oh right. Probably why I haven't heard of it- I'm a zombie to the media

 

[Furinkazen]

Is there any proof of that? As far as I've seen, all NASCAR models have completely identical performance, even between 2010 and 2011 models.

So, that makes 3(6) car models, when you count them separately, although underneath they're the same, instead of 12(23) with different liveries. (cars in brackets including DLC)

There's also 3 premium GT500-NSX's that are identical. (Arta, Raybrig and Takata)
There's 2 identical Peugeot 908 HDI's.

Since these cars are all part of different racing teams though, it's understandable that they are kept as seperate models in the dealership, as no team likes their car to be displayed as interchangeable with another team.

Different interiors in the NASCAR cars. GT500's vary a little in performance.