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besides... even if you think you "drift"(power slide moron) your FF car it would still get pewned by any FR car with a good driver in a drift race. Plus... its a prelude.... you oughta look into getting a better car if your going to try to brag.
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
besides... even if you think you "drift"(power slide moron) your FF car it would still get pewned by any FR car with a good driver in a drift race. Plus... its a prelude.... you oughta look into getting a better car if your going to try to brag.

Did you even bother to read my last post? Too long for you huh? You can't power slide in an FF car it doesn't exist! The more you talk the more it becomes apparent to you know very little about cars and drifting. Did you say drift race? There really isn’t such a thing (except on ice or dirt) since at any point the driver could just decide to drift less and go faster. You know even when you were bashing my cousins video I still had a respect for you I even defended you at one point, not any more man it's all gone now.

LanEvo didn't insult you in any way, and wasn't even condescending towards you, but there you go calling him a moron and insulting his car. A prelude is a fantastic car; 200hp in a 2.2 L engine, close ratio transmission and VTEC is fantastic little gadget. It’s no drag racer but 0-60 in 7.2 is nothing to laugh at, unless you have money to burn or it’s the only thing you care about. I could compare it to other cars but I’m pretty sure this post is already getting to long for you to read, since you didn’t bother with my last one, or at least didn't learn anything from it.
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
besides... even if you think you "drift"(power slide moron) your FF car it would still get pewned by any FR car with a good driver in a drift race. Plus... its a prelude.... you oughta look into getting a better car if your going to try to brag.

There are different ways to drift, superb doriftoo. With different drivetrains, all cars can drift, no matter what method they use.

Drifting is that fine line of control just before an uncontrolled skid.

If a car is able to hold the fine line of control just before an uncontrolled skid, then they are drifting. FF cars can drift, but they have to use the E-brake in order to initiate the drift. FR cars drift much differently than FF cars, since the layout is different. Since the power is going to the rear wheels, they can lose the traction by just overpowering the force of traction. Same thing with the MR and 4WD cars. If it's a car and it's sideways going through a turn with control, then it's drifting.

Also, I suggest you to read what TruenoAE86 wrote. He's very good in explaining the principle of drifting.

edit: superb doriftoo, THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO SELF-PROCLAIM. This community is not known for that and it will not be. If you want to do that, then you can go somewhere else, but there will be no more rude comments against the members here on GTPlanet.net.

Key word: RESPECT
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
besides... even if you think you "drift"(power slide moron) your FF car it would still get pewned by any FR car with a good driver in a drift race. Plus... its a prelude.... you oughta look into getting a better car if your going to try to brag.
OK, superb doriftoo, you're getting a yellow card from the referee. It's time you stopped showing so much attitude - especially considering how much you don't know - and started showing some respect to the other members of this forum.

For your education, "power sliding" is when you use the throttle to break the back tires loose and create oversteer, for rotation in sharp turns. Mighty impossible trick in a FWD Prelude, dontcha think? So perhaps you'd better learn a bit more before you pretend like you know it all.

And even if you ever do manage to learn it all, you still need to treat other users with respect.
 
It matter not what you copied and pasted Trueno... its a power slide gaa.... ask a reall drifter. ****ing eh... write to the "drift king" mutha ****a.

And what the hell do you mean no such thing as "drift racing" WTF!!! that almost pisses me off. If there is no such thing as drift racing then there wouldnt be ****ing famous places such as akina, akaji, and a hell of alot more. GAAA... they are even starting an anuall "Drift Race" competition in the U.S. asshole.

Secondly if a guy just suddenly decides to go grip during a race then he must suck ass at "Drift Racing".

Ive seen stock VW turbo bugs(not turbo S wich means lower then 180 horsepower) pull on a prelude with intake, headers, and exhaust. And the driver was a good driver in both cars.

So i recommend still that he get a new car. And learn about the difference of "Power sliding" and real "Drifting.

Dont try to question my knowledge of drifting. Do you even drive Trueno? or do you just play a game and think your all bad ass at driving because of it?

And you think grip is faster then "Drift Raceing". You have never seen a good driver. I have seen a Corolla(in case your and idiot, it is the same as a Trueno just they U.S. version), "Drift Dring", straight up pewn the hell out of a turbo integra that was grip driving. Ive seen a third gen RX-7, "Drift Driving", beat the **** out of a R34 drving grip and an evo 6 that was grip driving. Along with alot more. So frankly you suck cack. No way does grip give you more speed then drift. With drift you have much higher speed in the entance of a turn, and if you good you can keep the speed.
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
It matter not what you copied and pasted Trueno... its a power slide gaa.... ask a reall drifter. ****ing eh... write to the "drift king" mutha ****a.
This is a drifting forum right? Everyone has the right to learn what drifting is. I'll say this again: Drifting is that fine line of control just before an uncontrolled skid. If a car can do this while going through a turn, then it's drifting.

And what the hell do you mean no such thing as "drift racing" WTF!!! that almost pisses me off. If there is no such thing as drift racing then there wouldnt be ****ing famous places such as akina, akaji, and a hell of alot more. GAAA... they are even starting an anuall "Drift Race" competition in the U.S. asshole.

Secondly if a guy just suddenly decides to go grip during a race then he must suck ass at "Drift Racing".

Who said there's no such thing?

So i recommend still that he get a new car. And learn about the difference of "Power sliding" and real "Drifting.

This is unnecesary.

Dont try to question my knowledge of drifting. Do you even drive Trueno? or do you just play a game and think your all bad ass at driving because of it?

You know, there are other forums for this.

And you think grip is faster then "Drift Raceing". You have never seen a good driver. I have seen a Corolla(in case your and idiot, it is the same as a Trueno just they U.S. version), "Drift Dring", straight up pewn the hell out of a turbo integra that was grip driving. Ive seen a third gen RX-7, "Drift Driving", beat the **** out of a R34 drving grip and an evo 6 that was grip driving. Along with alot more. So frankly you suck cack. No way does grip give you more speed then drift. With drift you have much higher speed in the entance of a turn, and if you good you can keep the speed.

This IS a forum, right? Oh, and how do you know I haven't seen a good drifter? With this "know-it-all" thing you're putting on, I wonder why there isn't respect in anything you have said. TRY IT SOON, IT MAY HELP IN LIFE.
 
Okay there, you have an anger management problem and I suggest you use different methods to get your “ideas” across. Like proof, or calm explanations, or you will most likely get banned; not only here, but if you act like this in real life then you won’t get far past high school. Arguing is a part of life; learn to do it without directly insulting the person you are trying to convince.

Yeah you are right I have no car what so ever, and I can’t drift in real life but I don’t think I’m “bad ass” because I can drift in GT3, in fact because of GT3 I know that I can’t diver well until I get a crap load of practice. So whenever I get a chance, I practice some heel and toe and some left foot braking. It’s not like it real does anything I just want to get the feel of it so when I do get to go racing I’ll already have that experience.

I have done a good deal of research on the subject of drifting and I believe I have a quite a good understanding of the physics involved. When I see something that I don’t agree with I post my ideas to see if I’m right, or to inform the person that what they said is not entirely correct. This way they don’t pass false information on to other people. That’s probably how you ended up with some of the info you have now, one person said this and another said that and Pow! All of a sudden a power slide can be done in a FF car.

Who are these real drifters that you know anyways? It is quite possible that they are miss informed as well, terminology doesn’t really matter so it wouldn’t make them wrong or bad at drifting they just use the word differently.

So back to power slide, many people have explained this to you and you still don’t believe it, now if we just change it to “tail slide” that would fit in what you have been saying. If you pull the E-break in an FF car that would initiate a tail slide, but it is possible to change that tail slide into drift by left foot braking, It would probably be faster to skip the E-brake and use another method to start the drift (talking about the racing drift again not exhibition) But I think that would take a lot more skill and it probably would not look as good.

Now to drift racing, I was referring to closed circuit races. On a closed circuit drifting is not fast, so if you are drifting there is always the possibility of going faster, how can you call it a race if at any given moment you could go faster, it just defeats the whole purpose.

Have you ever watched best motoring? They have the Drift king on there a lot and when he races on a circuit he grips for all he’s worth, well it’s more likely that he’s four wheel drifting but so is everyone else. That is not a drift race that’s how all pro drivers drive. On a tight winding road, up or down a mountain, then okay I’ll give you that; it may be possible for drifting to be faster. I think in the newest Best Motoring they had the drift king in a 170HP 86 VS a stock R34 racing down a mountain Initial d style. I think he drifted a lot in those races and managed to win a few. So there, drift racing is possible but on a race track it's purely for show.

Okay now for the prelude, so you saw a turbo VW pull on a prelude that nice but who cares I’ve seen a prelude pull on a mustang 5.0 does that mean anything? Hell no! Don’t trust your eyes look at the numbers a prelude is slower than a 5.0 mustang (or 4.6 for that matter) and VW bug is slower than a prelude. The they rated the new golf 1.8t (180 hp) at 0-60 at 7.5 seconds and the ¼ mile at 15.5 on sportcompactcarweb.com. The prelude is tested at 0-60 in 7.2 and ¼ at 15.2. Now I do think the 1.8t is a little under rated and is capable of a little faster.

I find it funny how you seem to think that pulling on another car is the only thing that is important to someone and they should consider buying a new car if they can’t keep up. Maybe they LIKE the car! Like I said before going fast is not everything. If people only wanted to go fast well then they would all be driving modified 80’s 5.0 mustangs. You could probably build yourself a 12 or 13 second car for less than 5 grand if all goes well, another 5 grand and your getting close to 10’s.

Anyways I think that’s long enough, but I’ll leave you with this, you say, “ask any real drifter” well I say READ A BOOK! You’ll get the right answers there, and you wont have to take my word for it. (lol that’s from reading rainbow isn’t it? It’s amazing how that stuff sticks with you.)
 
Originally posted by Sileighty
I've noticed that a lot of the pro drifters on this forum swear by the simulation tires/low horsepower drift style. But the video clips I've seen seem to show the cars drifting at high speeds.

To achive high speed drifts, I go with a high grip/high horsepower combo.

Example - S13 (fully tuned)

* Stage 4 turbo
* Racing tires - Medium - slick

It works well for me, but I do have trouble breaking the tires loose at will. The sim tires are great at this, but can't handle the HP. I'd spend all my time "grandma'ing" the gas pedal, as to not smoke the tires in the straits.


Should I ditch my style, and re-learn to drift with the sim tires/ low HP ? Or do some of you guys set up your cars similar to mine ?
The Ultra Softs work well on most cars
 
I use e-brake drift yep……………but only to recover when I start a drift too early.

e-brake is also great for all-track cars too………

you guys should know what cars those are……………the skyline is not an all track though it launches with 4 but runs rear……..as for all the rally cars they’re all-track…….what I mean is all time 4WD.

My styles super soft slicks with transmition tune with high torqe

Oh and see the twin drift thread…….my cars are the Blue Skyline and the green and gray S13………those guys r my drift partners well have a drift video soon……..

But a good drifter may be able to drift with super soft…….it depend on how good u can break the traction…..
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
It matter not what you copied and pasted Trueno... its a power slide gaa.... ask a reall drifter. ****ing eh... write to the "drift king" mutha ****a.
OK, buck-o, you've been warned in public in private. This makes two strikes. Next one means you're out.

In addition to improving your attitude, you really do need to learn more about what you're talking about. Take the hint this time.
 
wow, lots of attention to my car hehe :O it doesn't do 0-60 in 7.5 nemore..i have a recording of the dash that clocks me doing the sprint in 6.39 ;) my car isn't exactly stock yunno...and yes..the gears are short, tops out in 5th at 150mph :banghead: the VTEC is pretty nifty..kicks in at 5,200rpm, open an intake manifold runner, changes cam lift/duration/degrees, plus makes the engine sound really cool :cool: the car certainly has enough power to drift, torque as well. in stock form my car makes a few more ft/lb than an S2000. and after 5,200rpm there's gobs of power up till 8,000. he may not even know what prelude we're talking about here, older preludes were available with different engines...crappier engines. i can see one of the losing to the VW, easily. but an H22A4(2.2 vtec) in ANY lude will surely beat a VW. And yes, I had a choice at the lot between this beauty and a '91 Mustang 5.0...black, 5-spd. but i thought to myself. What's more important..going in a straight line? or taking a turn at 130+ and maintaining enough control to step on the gas a little harder :trouble: sadly i'll be selling the 'lude this summer...gonna finally get to work on my Sil-80 project...
 

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