TL's PC thread - I want more RAM Post #66

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Eric.
He's in Australia. Newegg doesn't ship internationally. Also, their dollar isn't equal to ours.
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I so badly wish they did ship internationally. Our dollar is basically equal to yours at the moment....
 
Nice set up Leon. 👍
What specs do you have on it? and by the way, play crysis on it and see how well it performs. :D:tup: (I'll give you respect if you can play it, honest!)
 
Yep that's 2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM.

Thanks Muzzy Ballz,
Well the final part list had to differ *again*, so no RADEON, but instead the GeForce 9600GT 512MB.

I may aswell take CPU-Z screenshots for specs, much easier than typing because I'm lazy.





With WinXP SP2.
 
Your E8400 should be running at 3Ghz.


Which version of the bios are you using?

Is speed stepping on?


Nice looking setup you got there:tup:

EDIT: the 4850's are a good value if you wanted to the ATI route, and there available, unlike the 4870's.
 
opendriver19a
Your E8400 should be running at 3Ghz.


Which version of the bios are you using?

Is speed stepping on?


Nice looking setup you got there:tup:

EDIT: the 4850's are a good value if you wanted to the ATI route, and there available, unlike the 4870's.
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The speed goes up when you actually use the PC for some reason, I took thescreen shot as it opened, it went to 2.9GHz but then eventually died down to 2.5GHz. Then I opened FireFox and it went up to 2.9 again. Not sure but it may be the 'power saving' thing on the mobo. Thanks too 👍

@ legendary, thanks :)


 
Turbo Lag
Yep that's 2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM.

Thanks Muzzy Ballz,
Well the final part list had to differ *again*, so no RADEON, but instead the GeForce 9600GT 512MB.

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With WinXP SP2.
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👎 You could at least get Vista Ultimate......
Also, PLEASE get this game and see if your PC supports it! :P (I'm sure your pc will support it)

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I don't see how such a meh game should be a huge deciding factor in what OS he gets. I think he should have gotten Vista as well, but that is hardly much of a mitigating factor in the grand scheme of things.
 
Toronado
I don't see how such a meh game should be a huge deciding factor in what OS he gets. I think he should have gotten Vista as well, but that is hardly much of a mitigating factor in the grand scheme of things.
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Well not really, but I heard Crysis has one of the most demanding minimum requirement for any video game on a PC (and also one of my friend said the game was good :D) so I just figured that since he got a good gaming setup, he should at least play this (or any other) games which needs a lot of performance. ;)

As for Vista, after seeing what Vista ultimate can do, (and that XP will no longer supported in a few years time) I think that Vista was the better OS to be using in the future. :dunce: Not only that but most video games are Vista ready only, and playing it on XP is a headache..... (tried playing Halo 2 on my PC, the game was like..... :crazy:)

Well never mind, I should admit I'm a little jealous (a little?) of him getting a new PC........ :mad:
 
I dont like vista...so many problems, thats why iv'e never had it. All my friends who have it say it is 🤬

My main pc can play crysis...very nice game.
 
Muzaffar Musa
As for Vista, after seeing what Vista ultimate can do, (and that XP will no longer supported in a few years time) I think that Vista was the better OS to be using in the future.
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Excuse me? What? First off Vista Ultimate is basically a cash cow for people who want the best of everything. Very few people would actually need its extra features, which are very few to begin with.

Secondly XP is being supported until 2014. Which personally I think is a bit more than "a few years".
 
I would would rather not have Vista as all the silly features need 2GB of ram to run smoothly(MS site says you just need 1GB to run smoothly).:lol:
 
I didn't bother to get Vista since just about everyone says it's not that much better than XP, and it needs a much better PC to run smoothly on. I'll keep my XP thanks.
 
nick09
I would would rather not have Vista as all the silly features need 2GB of ram to run smoothly(MS site says you just need 1GB to run smoothly).:lol:
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Misinformed.

Yes, Vista uses more memory. But unused RAM = wasted RAM. Why bother buying insane amounts of memory if you're so anal about using as minimal as possible? And just FYI, Vista preloads your most commonly used applications into memory before you even open them, so they launch much faster when you do. So yes Vista uses more memory, but in reality, it's much more responsive than XP and it's memory management is light years ahead of XP's.

Turbo Lag
I didn't bother to get Vista since just about everyone says it's not that much better than XP, and it needs a much better PC to run smoothly on. I'll keep my XP thanks.
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Vista is a much better OS than XP. Granted, it's not the big quantum leap it was hyped up to be. But it is much more secure, faster and more usable than XP. Also, it was designed to work with and take advantage of the latest hardware - XP is seven years old people. Multi-core 64-bit processors weren't even imagined in the mainstream back then.

The only people complaining about Vista are those who are hanging on to archaic driver problems (same with every new OS launch – blame the third party vendors, not Microsoft) or trying to run it on something it's not supposed to.

Vista > XP. End.
 
Casio
Excuse me? What? First off Vista Ultimate is basically a cash cow for people who want the best of everything. Very few people would actually need its extra features, which are very few to begin with.

Secondly XP is being supported until 2014. Which personally I think is a bit more than "a few years".
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But like I said before, not many games are going to support XP anyhow. If you can tell me how to play Halo 2 on my XP without the game actually lagging, then I'll take back all that comment. As for the "best of everything" comment about Vista Ultimate, I didn't exactly said I was going to get the original didn't I? I could easily wait for Vista to get hacked and buy them somewhere here for less than 10 bucks! :P Heck, even my XP isn't original...... :lol:

nick09
I would would rather not have Vista as all the silly features need 2GB of ram to run smoothly(MS site says you just need 1GB to run smoothly).:lol:
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Make that 3GB. :ill:

Shannon: +1
 
Just so you know, for the record...the people running xp are not actually all noobs with gay computers and complaining about how memory taking vista is. We actually have top notch computers and dont want vista so we dont get it. You cant assume that we dont have vista cause we dont have good computers and instead complain about it.

This was basically directed at Shannon.
 
legendary724
Just so you know, for the record...the people running xp are not actually all noobs with gay computers and complaining about how memory taking vista is. We actually have top notch computers and dont want vista so we dont get it. You cant assume that we dont have vista cause we dont have good computers and instead complain about it.

This was basically directed at Shannon.
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What turns you off Vista then? Give me a good, technical explanation of why Vista is so bad that you are willing to use your 'top-notch' machine to run a decade old operating system. "All my friend's say it's crap" doesn't count. Please, install it for yourself without a biased outlook from everyones' opinions, and then come back and tell me what you think.

I didn't say everyone that complains about it has a slow machine. The point is, there's a lot of stigma attached from those who complained initially about driver and program support (not an issue now), or those who simply tried to run it on a slow machine and complained about performance. It has such a bad reputation from these people that the first instance of large memory usage or slow performance, people are willing to drop it instantly for XP and complain about it like the rest of the misinformed masses.

Guess what, the very same things people complain about Vista, were the same complaints made when XP was launched. Now it's some holy OS. Remember everyone saying they'd stay on Win2000 before they installed XP? Every OS is a heap of crap in it's infancy, it'll be the same with Windows 7 and every other release after that. Vista works fine on any machine built in the last few years, so if you're friends have one of these machines and are complaining, they're simply jumping on the 'bash Vista' bandwagon instead of judging for themselves. If they don't, then they're in the category of people running it on something they shouldn't and their case is invalid.
 
I did the exact same thing with xp. Your right, everyone does basically have xp now. It did go through the hell that vista is going through now.

The whole reason why no-one wants it now is because of the bad feed-back. Due to the negative feedback people are willing to wait it out another year or 2 whilst microsoft takes our feedback and does something from it. That is why alot of people are going with the flow.

Would you try out the latest game if everyone said is was bad and you really did care if you had it or not? Same case for a lot of people here. We dont have to try something just to prove our point.

EDIT: Also im gonna drop the case here because we've basically hijacked Turbo Lag's thread.
 
I wouldn't try a game if I wasn't interested in it period. I've not played Crysis because I really don't care for it. If you want to liken that to staying on XP because it works for you, then fine. But if you want to stay on XP solely because you don't care about upgrading, then that doesn't mean you can throw around complaints and bash Vista based on others' old archaic complaints.

The point I was really trying to get at was people are not adopting Vista due to the opinions formed when the OS was still in its infancy. And due to the misinformed public, these opinions are still being thrown around when they're now completely baseless. Vista is perfect and there really is no reason not to go with it if you're considering an upgrade.

Anyway, nice build Turbo Lag. But this thread is pointless without... benchmarks. :D
 
Nice err...argument :lol: But seriously, I read through it thoroughly. I'm not saying Vista is bad in any way, it does have much better capabilites compared to XP. But all I'm saying is, I like XP because it is old, if anything goes wrong there are many ways to get feedback, people understand the problems with XP and most of those have already been fixed. It's personal preference, I guess.

I don't mind my thread being hi-jacked :lol:, it's a good read. Thanks for comments everyone 👍.
 
I've been using Vista since RC1, never had a problem (Hell, even with RC1 my programs worked), and recommend it to all my customers. (But then again I recommend Office 2007 too, some say I'm crazy)

You've kinda made me want to get a new PC now....hmmm
 
If I needed vista for gaming I would of disable the networking for windows(aka less viruses = more stable system) and dual boot with Ubuntu for my internet needs.

I plan on doing that when I get a laptop later this summer.
 
Might be the wrong place to ask but...

Does anyone know where you can buy a slimline PSU casing, basically the same as normal size but lower in height, I need to put my PSU innards into a smaller casing.

Any ideas?, I could try to make my own but I don't feel like dieing! :ill:

Robin
 
Sounds like more trouble then it's worth. Why do you need to do that for?

As far as I'm aware you can't buy the casing on their own, you could always just buy a Slimline PSU and rip everything out of it.

Or if your problem is the PSU unit not fitting into the case you could make it an external PSU I guess or just buy an external one.
 

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