To ASM and TCS?

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I hate TCS and ASM ever since that slalom license test in GT3 with RUF. First one is with assists ON (that took me quite a while to get gold) and the same test without assist, which took me only a few tries. It hust must have option to turn it off. Period.
 
Moadib
Hmmm, that's shaky ground is it not? LSD is older, and a mechanical technology, but it achieves the same result of controlling power in a manner conducive to avoiding loss of control and giving better lap times. I mean ASM and TCS are not acceptable, but electronic torque split is fine in Skylines, or active yaw control in Evos?

I don't disagree with you, but all of them are "driving aids" - just TCS and ASM are added by PS2 whereas the others are built into the cars.


true, what i tried to say i supose is that tcs and asm are computer controlled governing systems that are built into the car and wired through the main harness. a LSD is a performance part. not really an "aid" if you ask me. unless we concider an exaust system and "aid" for more torque, or stickier tires an "aid" for traction.
 
Entroper
LSD is a bit different from TCS though. TCS prevents you from exceeding the limits of your tires' grip. A LSD actually increases those limits when accelerating out of a turn. Even with a LSD, a high-powered RWD can still exceed its limits, it just has more grip available before that happens. ASM and TCS compensate for driver error without increasing the car's abilities; a LSD actually increases the performance envelope of the car.

brilliantly put 👍
 
Entroper
LSD is a bit different from TCS though. TCS prevents you from exceeding the limits of your tires' grip. A LSD actually increases those limits when accelerating out of a turn. Even with a LSD, a high-powered RWD can still exceed its limits, it just has more grip available before that happens. ASM and TCS compensate for driver error without increasing the car's abilities; a LSD actually increases the performance envelope of the car.

But LSD allows a car, under certain circumstances, to maintain control when a car without it would not. If you insert "TCS" in that sentence it still makes perfect, and equivalent, sense.

How about the F1 concept of providing TC by mapping the engine according to airbox pressure etc - you still provide TCS, but by increasing the car's capabilities of response rather than by limiting the output?
 
Moadib
But LSD allows a car, under certain circumstances, to maintain control when a car without it would not. If you insert "TCS" in that sentence it still makes perfect, and equivalent, sense.

How about the F1 concept of providing TC by mapping the engine according to airbox pressure etc - you still provide TCS, but by increasing the car's capabilities of response rather than by limiting the output?
LSD - Limited Slip Differential. Usually Clutch type or Torsen, it works to minimize wheel spin in the in side wheel of a turn. It also maximize to gain a little more traction to a point you loose both/all (drive)wheels traction during maximum acceleration.
TCS - Traction Control works to maximize traction to a degree depending on setting if available. example M3 (E46)with SMG when in S5 it allows for alittle sliding in the back end to a point is easy to control. when on S7, the only mode with Launch control it is crazy how it uses maximum power for standing start without any wheel spin but traction control is off. it is very easy to spin the rear end when exiting a corner.
AYC- Active Yaw Control. This is only on 4WD, it reduces the understeer to a minimum and transmit power to the rear to induce controlled oversteer.
 
Anyone who says that driver aids, set in a certain correct way, cannot make you faster, is wrong.

That is not to say that you should use them. I don't, personally. But used correctly they will make you faster, in real life at least. And probably in GT4.
 
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