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I can’t figure out how the Megane is FF wheel drive can’t corner but yet people are using this car and blowing out 458s on a straight and on turns I’ve used the car and it sucks on corners or am I missing something here cause this car is OP
 
Hasassin_X
I can’t figure out how the Megane is FF wheel drive can’t corner but yet people are using this car and blowing out 458s on a straight and on turns I’ve used the car and it sucks on corners or am I missing something here cause this car is OP
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I think it's literally about straight line speed with the Megane. Monsters everything on it.
 
jake2013guy
I think it's literally about straight line speed with the Megane. Monsters everything on it.
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That yes but I had a guy in my race who did the track in 2:10!!!!! In the race it’s like the car was on rails in the corners he didn’t even slow down until the sharp corner like how is this possible ?
 
Bad BoP balancing IMO. I'm sure it will be patched as the Sirocco was.
 
4 years, untold $10's of millions and all it would have taken was a handful of laps by a top racer to figure out the car was dramatically overpowered. It's not a bug perse, but from a certain perspective it might actually be worse.
 
Not sure I trust the BoP system. If I enter a 'leveled' up car it limits me to say 109% power. Well someone with same car STOCK would get 100% power right? So Id have an advantage? AS you cant level up the car after you entered.
Am I wrong?
Also power to weight ratio..even if leveled out isn't the lightest car faster round corners due to having less inertia to overcome?
Trying to make everyone equal is so unrealistic anyway. In real life do you get races with 24 racers all within 5 sec lap time from start to finish? It would be carnage and IS here.
I want a tuning race back so bad. Every time you race is different and exciting as you try out a new tweak.
 
@Sloppy Shades I think you're wrong. It doesn't matter if you leveled up your car, the BoP will put it as if it were stock.

On the lightest car being baster round corners, yes, in principle. But if it's 1800mm wide and a heavier car is 2100mm wide, that advantage goes away. Same could be said for hight. If it's a ligher car but the center of gravity is higher than on a heavier car, it won't drive around corners faster (fake numbers, they only serve to make a point).

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BoP is kinda working in Gr.3 cars but Gr.4 is all over the place. Mixing FF with AWD with FR and MR and balancing them all out so they're competitive is hard.

But today I discovered that the M6, for instance, was great to do qualifying laps (got rank 1 at Lake Maggiore) but when I went to race with it it was a mess. The tire wear, even with TCS 2 just made the car slower after 4/5 laps. And I mean a lot slower, 0.5 - 1 sec a lap slower than a Beetle or Porsche, when in qualifying it was the faster car.

Unfortunately I signed for BMW just before I discovered this so I'll be racing BMWs with tire wear and I know I'll finish the races a lot slower than my qualifying or my opening laps. I don't know if this happens with other Gr.3 cars but from what I've tested, the M6 was the worse dealing with tire wear.
 
zzz_pt
@Sloppy Shades I think you're wrong. It doesn't matter if you leveled up your car, the BoP will put it as if it were stock.

On the lightest car being baster round corners, yes, in principle. But if it's 1800mm wide and a heavier car is 2100mm wide, that advantage goes away. Same could be said for hight. If it's a ligher car but the center of gravity is higher than on a heavier car, it won't drive around corners faster (fake numbers, they only serve to make a point).

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BoP is kinda working in Gr.3 cars but Gr.4 is all over the place. Mixing FF with AWD with FR and MR and balancing them all out so they're competitive is hard.

But today I discovered that the M6, for instance, was great to do qualifying laps (got rank 1 at Lake Maggiore) but when I went to race with it it was a mess. The tire wear, even with TCS 2 just made the car slower after 4/5 laps. And I mean a lot slower, 0.5 - 1 sec a lap slower than a Beetle or Porsche, when in qualifying it was the faster car.

Unfortunately I signed for BMW just before I discovered this so I'll be racing BMWs with tire wear and I know I'll finish the races a lot slower than my qualifying or my opening laps. I don't know if this happens with other Gr.3 cars but from what I've tested, the M6 was the worse dealing with tire wear.
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I’m baffled of the drafting how does a mustang catch a 458 on a straight when I’m already doing 156mh but it blows right by me and I can’t catch him something is seriously wrong here
 
Hasassin_X
I’m baffled of the drafting how does a mustang catch a 458 on a straight when I’m already doing 156mh but it blows right by me and I can’t catch him something is seriously wrong here
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I can only guess they had a serious tow. I passed by those Renaults easily with my Viper thanks to the draft. Especially on the main straight following them from the final turn all through the tunnel.
 
I haven’t tried the Megane, but with the scirocco before, it’s speed advantage was because it was powered up to compete at GR4 while the other (on paper faster) cars were derated to meet the BoP specs.

So you had a lighter car with > 100% power vs faster cars carrying weight and engine penalties.

As for understeer, that can be minimised by a combination of settings and driving technique.
 
I stopped with that track, first time since release that my S rating went to crap because of all the cars that drive into my ass haha iam B again now. Like the track but people just dont have the patience to overtake on the right moment or brake on time......
 
I'm not sure how much experience some of you posting about the Megane have after the update, but I suspect very little.

I spent probably too many hours running the Tokyo race earlier today.
There was no evidence of that car being superior to any other car from what I saw.
It held the top 10 spot by 3/100ths over a Vantage.
There were only 3 in the top 10 (and no, not the top 3 spots), the same amount as the Vantage, plus 4 other different cars.
There is no Megane in the top 10 at all for practise times for the Nation's cup today.

I don't get where people are calling it OP at all.
One bloke makes a claim, someone says it's a BoP problem, then hyperbole increases.
No evidence of this from the many, many races I ran earlier.

Here's a video of one of the races.
It has 2 guys from the top 10 in it.
The winner runs a 2:10.3 on his second lap, in a Viper.
The other top 10 guy is the one I'm battling with at the end of the race, in a Audi TT.
Unfortunately the guy in the black Viper early didn't have the best of races, but we had some great battles before and after this race.



Running these races was addictive.
Great fun with heaps of fast, clean drivers.
 
Haven’t tried the megane yet but it is the fastest GT4 which is not true in real life, wish the M235i was around to show/prove who’s the daddy for real.
For now, the 718 clubsport is probably one of the best in cornering (true in real life anyways). For me, it is all about enjoying the cars and not just easy wins...(the FF understeer just $uck$)
Anyways, i am hoping the next patch will address this BoP nonsense seen on some cars.
 
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I'm not sure how much experience some of you posting about the Megane have after the update, but I suspect very little.

I spent probably too many hours running the Tokyo race earlier today.
There was no evidence of that car being superior to any other car from what I saw.
It held the top 10 spot by 3/100ths over a Vantage.
There were only 3 in the top 10 (and no, not the top 3 spots), the same amount as the Vantage, plus 4 other different cars.
There is no Megane in the top 10 at all for practise times for the Nation's cup today.

I don't get where people are calling it OP at all.
One bloke makes a claim, someone says it's a BoP problem, then hyperbole increases.
No evidence of this from the many, many races I ran earlier.

Here's a video of one of the races.
It has 2 guys from the top 10 in it.
The winner runs a 2:10.3 on his second lap, in a Viper.
The other top 10 guy is the one I'm battling with at the end of the race, in a Audi TT.
Unfortunately the guy in the black Viper early didn't have the best of races, but we had some great battles before and after this race.



Running these races was addictive.
Great fun with heaps of fast, clean drivers.[/QUO


I have experience and I am the one who started the thread! Clearly you can’t in 4th and your final time around the track was 2:10 but only because you had a draft to keep you fast ! That viper in first place is well ahead of everyone else no draft yet the second place guy can’t catch him. That viper tops out in 6th gear around 158mph well before the end of that straight while the Ferrari tops out well above 162mph so explain to me how a tank of a car is coming around those corners with such speed and finesse ? I’ve used it with a wheel and compared to the Ferrari or the Porsche you have to apply too much braking to smoothly come around those turns.

Also look at the world leader board for that race and the megane is near the top so yea a FF drive car that understeers by default in no way should be able to take turns as fast as it does. This was the point of the thread trying to figure out if there was some type of glitch or balancing issue here! Notice how people in front of you also tap the wall and lose very little speed but you do you speed loss is real
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Tassie_tiger
I'm not sure how much experience some of you posting about the Megane have after the update, but I suspect very little.

I spent probably too many hours running the Tokyo race earlier today.
There was no evidence of that car being superior to any other car from what I saw.
It held the top 10 spot by 3/100ths over a Vantage.
There were only 3 in the top 10 (and no, not the top 3 spots), the same amount as the Vantage, plus 4 other different cars.
There is no Megane in the top 10 at all for practise times for the Nation's cup today.

I don't get where people are calling it OP at all.
One bloke makes a claim, someone says it's a BoP problem, then hyperbole increases.
No evidence of this from the many, many races I ran earlier.

Here's a video of one of the races.
It has 2 guys from the top 10 in it.
The winner runs a 2:10.3 on his second lap, in a Viper.
The other top 10 guy is the one I'm battling with at the end of the race, in a Audi TT.
Unfortunately the guy in the black Viper early didn't have the best of races, but we had some great battles before and after this race.



Running these races was addictive.
Great fun with heaps of fast, clean drivers.
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Looks like the lead viper was a wall surfer
 
Driving FF cars is just about going in very slow and then accelerate at the exact right time. The track in question is quite forgiving though as most corners are high speed corners and FF cars can deal with those quite well.

Btw am I the only one who really love the fast S curves on this track? I get all excited whenever I get them right at high speed.
 
Earth
Looks like the lead viper was a wall surfer
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:lol:
Why?
Because the Megane is so OP that surely only that car can run a 2:10?
No way can a Viper run those times?

There were two Aston Martin's in the top 10 running 2:09's for qualy times.
Are they OP too?


Anyway, here's your wall surfer.



If he didn't get a 150% clean race bonus he was extremely unlucky.
 
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