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The guy is talking about professional drifting. He's saying that pro drifters all (most) came from street racing or have a background. Here in the states I think he's pretty much correct.
In less than a decade, if the sport keeps growing in popularity, then coming from the street will not be common because their will be more classes/support classes and events for regular people (from the street) can enter.

Any pro racer in any other discipline DID NOT street race...save for the odd crazy kid that lucky maybe. Sure, they all raced growing up, but they raced on tracks, not the street.

Pro drifters sure, that sport has a long way to go though before it becomes mainstream (God i hope it doesn't...if you like it fine but it's not for me).
 
thank you finally someone understands that not everyone is a freaking god and never broke any rules. the way the drifting scene is taking off there are so many good events to participate in that it is becoming less common to practice on the streets. i know the falken team still does though.
 
I don't know why your suddenly specifying drifting, because neither me or McLaren mentioned drifting once. We never said people don't speed, we said professional RACE drivers generally do NOT come from street racing, they come from junior motorsports. Sure you might still get some wankers that street race, but so sodding what, the bottom line is, to get into most professional motorsports you need experience in other recognised motorsports, street racing is not one of them, rather if they find out you did it you can go to jail, lose your car and get a hefty effing fine.

Also, who the **** mentioned Ferraris, you were talking about new drivers, how many new drivers get a Ferrari? Your mind is all over the place, mate, you might have a good idea of what you want to get across in your head but it's not translating to the keyboard all that well.
 
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I don't know why your suddenly specifying drifting, because neither me or McLaren mentioned drifting once. We never said people don't speed, we said professional RACE drivers generally do NOT come from street racing, they come from junior motorsports. Sure you might still get some wankers that street race, but so sodding what, the bottom line is, to get into most professional motorsports you need experience in other recognised motorsports, street racing is not one of them, rather if they find out you did it you can go to jail, lose your car and get a hefty effing fine.

Also, who the **** mentioned Ferraris, you were talking about new drivers, how many new drivers get a Ferrari? Your mind is all over the place, mate, you might have a good idea of what you want to get across in your head but it's not translating to the keyboard all that well.


I brought Micheal Schu., but this guy is stupid.

1st, you talk about ALMS and SCCA guys all street racing after their license and that you can't drive a race car when driving a kart.

Now you're talking about drifting.

I live in the US, and guess what!? The US is not a godd*mn mountain. The US was build on crossroads and flats.

Perhaps you should study the area of the US landscape. Maybe you'll realize not every godd*mn place as mountains to "drift" or "touge" on besides California.

California is not the US.
And I even told you Sam and Reese never started Formula D in street racing.

The Gush is a joke, so don't even bring him in.
Reese is wasting his talents, and he's only doing this for the cash.

You do know what Reese did before Formula Dumb, dont you?
 
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how great would it be to have a game, that would use, say the GT4 physics engine, coupled with maybe a GTA city structure and missions. this game would be extremely realistic, based beginning with a street racer moving his way up into professional motorsports. in order to progress you would have to get a job to finance these modifications until you could substitute that income with the prize money from races or the payofss from certain, "underground" activities including street races or a skilled driver evading police from a bank robbery. you could choose to be good or bad and still end up in the same place...the top of the ladder in a motorsport of your choice. With hopefully online play. Similar to the large maps and amount of real players as WoW i think this would be the ultimate game.

agree/diagree and any input you guys might want.

this would be the ultimate pitch to a company.
Sounds like the next generation Driver game.
 
dont even start on Rhys Millen, the guy is the biggest joke ever. he is a good driver but he cheats like crazy in formula d. his team has spent more in r&d than most teams have spent on ther cars. second his **** always breaks, the steering rack has held togather for 1-2 complete events and his car is DRIVEN BY A COMPUTER. when was the last time you saw Rhys spin out. he cannot spin the car out because the computer senses to much angle and slows the rear tires down to gain traction and straighten out. not to mention the CLEAR plexiglass wall running down the entire back window to make the car have more resistance when sideways. the other advantage he has is that the car is slower than hell. even guys in hachi's have a hard time going that slow. the car is a piece that brakes all the time and he should go back to rallying, the only reason he is famous is because of his dad and there company.

Sam Hubinette was an ice racer in sweden, so you think theres no ICE on the regular roads in SWEDEN right. he only learned to drive on a track.... hahaahha, if you believe that than you probably believe politicians are telling the truth.

Ken Gushi is one of if not the best American driver. the only reason he cannot do well in competitions is because he is driving a ****box mustang. he was 10x better in his old S13 and the only reason he drives it is because they give him a team, budge, and a million dollar contract for this year, probably more to stay with them. he is always talking about how the car doesnt do what he tells it to do and he says everything but he hates it, he cant for a million dollars i would loose every evenat and then say, "the car isn't meant to do this, thats why im not in the finals." with his old car he would be beating Rhys.
 
That post still doesn't back up your original claim that professional race drivers start out street racing.

Also Sam Hubinette was racing since before he was even 8, explain to me, how in hell he was street racing at the age of 8. He started in junior MOTORSPORTS, not he took his pedal car out for a drive down the touge.
 
ok whtever. some people race on the streets others on the track and most do both. a lot of drivers used to drive on the streets and some didnt. anyways...

tourist trophy looks fun as hell. the last time there was a good motorcylce console game was....never?
 
No most do not race on the streets, they could lose their racing license if they got caught. Most started off in junior motorsports at very young ages, the odd one was involved in street racing and these are almost exclusively found in drifting. The rest of the motorsport world started in karts, T-Cars, Ford Rally trainers or simillar motorsports.
 
In a realm of racing games that were all about NASCAR-style racing and demolition derbys (same thing, right? ;-)), it was a breath of fresh air to see something like Total Immerison Racing come around. Now while I haven't played TIR, I read the intro and want to offer my two cents.

It isn't too often to see an illegal street racer get picked up by a racing agent to become a professional talent. Not related, but didn't "NASCAR 2005: Chase for the Cup" start off with you illegally street racing a Dodge Viper on the streets against another Viper for you to be a NASCAR star? Anyhow, I don't know of many illegal racers who end up being stars in some motorsport. I probably know of Stephen Papadakis who went from illegal street racer to NOPI drag racer and drifter. And if the motorsports critics get a look of game, I bet that someone will likely be like "want the best way to be a racing star? Illegally street race your way to the top!" You want to be the next best race star? Start with go-karts, get some racing licenses, then race at the top of your profession. There's no need for illegal street racing to reach the top. The only exception is a story-based racing game where someone loved street racing, gave up on street racing, and made a commitment to quit street racing and devote his/her life to making it big in real racing (even if it's NASCAR).

I'm sorry, but every idea I see for extremely massive RPG-type worlds in a racing game genre is pretty unrealistic for me. GTA San Andreas was a big game, but I don't think there should be extremely massive worlds just to have a bunch of race tracks at once. They are in small, confined areas for a reason- saving space. The leftover space can be used to add more features or more tracks. But if you REALLY want an example of a game that has a good number of tracks in a certain confined area, play a Ridge Racer game or something.
 
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