Toyota Esprit?

[Eric.]

Thanks, this clears it up:



Porsche body shell = monocoque chassis. Hence it has an original VIN number, because it's not produced from an already licensed vehicle. The Ruf email you presented does not mention body panels at all. A body shell is the actual chassis or monocoque which holds all the mechanical bits together. It usually includes the roof and pillars , and often rear fenders, but excludes the front fenders, bonnet and bootlid, and doors.



So you can buy your RUF in two ways: 1: Give them your existing Porsche and ask them to upgrade it or 2: Ask them to get the bits they need from Porsche, including the chassis, and build you a car from unused parts.

Much like most other major league modifiers then

Oh, sorry about that. I thought body shell just meant all of the panels. The second way is not really a Ruf, though. It is still a Porsche, just Ruf-tuned, same as if you go put a HKS turbo on a Silvia, it doesn't become a HKS Silvia.

 

[Emohawk]

Thanks for the 6R4 info, Scaff.

cizetas are entirely made by cizeta in-house. on that subject i thought it was meant to be turbo too, cizeta V16T

They're all V16Ts. The T reffers to the transmission, which is attached to the side of the engine in a T shape.

The present 4 liter inline 6s used by Jeep are based on an AMC design that dates back to the 50s.
Of course, that doesn't really count, because AMC owned Jeep at that point, but it's still cool.

 

[RICHARDO]

As a compliment to the list of Alfaholic: Ford RS200 doors and windscreen are based on those of the Sierra.

Don't forget the engine and taillights! The engine comes from the Sierra Cosworth and so do the taillights. Also the engine was the basis for Toyota's legendary 4A-GE 16 Valve engine.

 

[Tornado]

Are you sure? I didn't know they had anything to do with each other.
Anyways, how can we forget the De Lorean? It used one of the most famous engines of the 80's! The PRV "Douvrin" 27F V6 that seemed to be in approximately 1/2 of all cars sold from 1974-1998.

 

[RICHARDO]

What I meant by basis Toronado is that Toyota "borrowed" the design of the Cosworth BDA so they could design the 4A-GE. I didn't mean it was the same engine! Sorry you misunderstood.

 

[Emohawk]

You sure? Where'd you read that?

 

[RICHARDO]

http://www.billzilla.org/ae86stock.htm Scroll all the way down, click on where it says "on to the mechanical side of the AE86 Corolla" It should be about mid-page.

 

[THE ED3]

The RUF comment was a joke on my part calling back to a short lived arguement I was part of a while back. I believe that just because they have different vins then real porsches the fact that they uses the same chassis makes them inherently porsches when you get down to the very basics.

the hommel berlinette or what ever uses the B18? or b16 whatever it is the civic motor..

looking at the stats of this car in gt4 tells me it isnt either motor you have stated. It is a 2 liter making 164hp and 144lb/ft. This is no honda motor or at least no factory B series motor.

 

[chinny]

another combo that isnt in the game was rovers use of hondas dohc zc in some of their cars between 1988 and 1996.

Shouldnt that be Rovers use of badly put together Honda Civics over what seemed like the last 20 years.

Did Rover ever get the DOHC ZC to leak oil like a proper British motor should?

 

[soptom]

The Virage front lights were from an Audi 200 and the rears from a VW Scirocco. It also used GM steering parts, Jag heating parts and Ford dash switches and columns.

 

[amp88]

Noble rear light cluster from Ford Mondeo.
Vector something-or-other fuel cap from an F15 (I think).

 

[Tornado]

The Virage front lights were from an Audi 200 and the rears from a VW Scirocco. It also used GM steering parts, Jag heating parts and Ford dash switches and columns.

That's what happens when you fund the entire development of a car from the profits of one other car.
Also, the FPV GT, Ford SVT Cobra R and Ford GT all use the same engine.
The Tommy kiara ZZ-S used an SR20DE (albeit highly tuned and fed through twin racing bike carbs) out of a S14 Silvia.
Half the Chevrolets in the game use the same engine (more or less ). The exceptions are the '54 Corvette, C5R, Camaro LM (but that doesn't really count, not being a real car and all), ZR-1, Z06, Chevelle SS454, and Camaro SS. See, roughly half.

 

[HiyakuShiro]

Also many Chrysler and Mitsubishi cars share the same engines and
(similar looks as well in the Egale Talon and Mitsubishi eclipse, 3000GT/Dodge stealth)other parts to but, I can't call any off the top of my head, plus companies like Chrysler will obviously have more Mercedes parts as they are the same company now(of course thats no long 2 differnt companies. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's the same deal with Ford and Mitsubishi, correct me if I'm wrong GM and Mazda too? I think).
Edit:Chrysler I'm sorry didn't pay attention to what I was typing.

 

[Jay]

The Tommy kiara ZZ-S used an SR20DE (albeit highly tuned and fed through twin racing bike carbs) out of a S14 Silvia.

Yeah and the Tommy Kaira ZZII uses Skyline GTR RB26DETT and drivetrain except they reversed it somehow as a few rare pictures show.

 

[THE ED3]

what do ford and mitsubishi share?

 

[Appie]

but that always happend in automotive history

 

[RICHARDO]

Also many Chrysler and Mitsubishi cars share the same engines and
(similar looks as well in the Egale Talon and Mitsubishi eclipse, 3000GT/Dodge stealth)other parts to but, I can't call any off the top of my head, plus companies like Chrysler will obviously have more Mercedes parts as they are the same company now(of course thats no long 2 differnt companies. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's the same deal with Ford and Mitsubishi, correct me if I'm wrong GM and Mazda too? I think).
Edit:Chrysler I'm sorry didn't pay attention to what I was typing.

Ford and Mazda share parts and drivetrains, GM is not involved with Mazda. Also, I don't think Mitsubishi ever worked with Ford, they worked with Diamler Chrysler.

 

[Emohawk]

I think it'd be more accurate to say Mitsubishi worked with Chrysler, most of their collaberations took place before Diamler-Benz took over Chrysler.
Toyota and GM also have a history of rebadging each others cars, but I can't think of any individual parts they share.

 

[HiyakuShiro]

Yeah it doesn't seem like mitsubishi would need Chrysler considering the size of Mitsubishi Ind., although I don't think they receive any additional funding other than what they make through automotive sales. As for GM/Mazda I only thought so because I saw a GM auto show in detroit(like 2001 or something like that) and there was a Mazda concept there (my friend looked at me and said "Does GM own Mazda now?" So I assumed, ignorance on my part).

 

[RICHARDO]

I think it'd be more accurate to say Mitsubishi worked with Chrysler, most of their collaberations took place before Diamler-Benz took over Chrysler.
Toyota and GM also have a history of rebadging each others cars, but I can't think of any individual parts they share.

You got me there , I don't know why I said Diamler Chrysler since Mercedes Benz only bought Chrysler in 2000/2001 and Mitsubishi worked with Chrysler decades before.

I don't think they have shared any mentionable parts with eachother, usually it's just a rebadging job (the GM way) .

 

[HiyakuShiro]

The Egale Talon(Chryler) and the Eclipse(Mitsubishi) had the exact same engine LINK <here

 

[Eric.]

They are pretty much the exact same car. The interior may be a little different, and the body varies a little bit.

 

[Emohawk]

I think Chrysler and DB became DC in '98, not '1.
The earliest link I can think of is the Mitsubishi Galant/ Dodge Challenger/ Plymouth Sapporo which ran from '78 to '84. Anyone know anything before that?

 

[Jay]

Chrysler pulled out of Australia in the 70's and Mitsubishi took over even the manufacturing plants, Chrysler Sigma turned into Mitsubishi Sigma aswell as Galant I think.

Now Chrysler is back here anyway.