Transformers 3: Dark Of The Moon (7/1/11)
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^Special effects, probably.
Anyway, I just finished watching it a couple hours ago, and I've had time to think about it.
I don't really have many comments on the story right now, but it was actually really good, it did what it was meant to do and kept me interested. Aside from that it was some fast paced action for a solid 2 1/2 hours, and that's what I was looking for, everything else was icing on the highly-explosive robotic cake.
^Most of that came as a surprise to me because I tried to avoid learning as many of the details about this movie as I could.
Oh, and Rossie Huntington is a far better actress than Megan Fox was.
Not Oscar winning material, but she's good enough.
And she looks better to me.
Anyway, I just finished watching it a couple hours ago, and I've had time to think about it.
I don't really have many comments on the story right now, but it was actually really good, it did what it was meant to do and kept me interested. Aside from that it was some fast paced action for a solid 2 1/2 hours, and that's what I was looking for, everything else was icing on the highly-explosive robotic cake.
And that shout out to Star Trek: "The needs of the many out way the needs of the few" nearly gave the geek in that is me me a heart attack.
I was a bit irked that Nimoy was the bad guy, but I can get past that because he's still awesome.
And they got Buzz Aldrin? THE Buzz Aldrin? That was a very pleasant surprise.
I was a bit irked that Nimoy was the bad guy, but I can get past that because he's still awesome.
And they got Buzz Aldrin? THE Buzz Aldrin? That was a very pleasant surprise.
Oh, and Rossie Huntington is a far better actress than Megan Fox was.
Not Oscar winning material, but she's good enough.
And she looks better to me.
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I happened to go and watch it earlier (in 2D) and I thought it was a very satisfying movie overall:
Also unit-one:
In terms of the amount of action that it contains, the last 45 minutes of the movie was immense. Plot wise, I'd say it was better than Revenge of the Fallen, but I still prefer the first Transformers film over both of the sequels. As for Rossie Huntington, she looks good, no doubt about it, but I didn't think her acting skills were that great. Did I mention that she looks good?
By the way, Alan Tudyk who plays Dutch is crazy as hell, especially during the bar scene.
By the way, Alan Tudyk who plays Dutch is crazy as hell, especially during the bar scene.
I believe part of the reason why the Transformers bleed in this film is to exploit the 3D feature so it looks as though the blood is coming out of the screen. I didn't watch it in 3D though, so I wouldn't really know.
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^Special effects, probably.
Oh, and Rossie Huntington is a far better actress than Megan Fox was.
Not Oscar winning material, but she's good enough.
And she looks better to me.
I wonder how mad she made Jason Stathem when she drove the Mercedes instead of an Audi.
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I think Tudyk is a fantastic actor. Want to see him really go to town? Watch the first season of "Dollhouse" where he plays Alpha, a criminally-insane Doll-turned-serial-killer with thirty-seven personalities. Especially the "I'm not bluffing!" scene in the season one finale.
It's a shame that show got cancelled, because the season two episode "Epitaph Two: The Return" shows that he has somehow been redeemed of his crimes and is now a major figure in the human resistance against the show's major villains. But we never got to see how he got redeemed.
It's a shame that show got cancelled, because the season two episode "Epitaph Two: The Return" shows that he has somehow been redeemed of his crimes and is now a major figure in the human resistance against the show's major villains. But we never got to see how he got redeemed.
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There will not be a fourth.
Should I spoiler text that?
Also, FK will NOT be happy.
I'm not spoiler texting that.
Also, Sideswipe (chevrolet corvette concept) had his roof off, that's why he looked different.
That doesn't need spoiler texting.
I will not review it until enough people have seen the film, and I can talk about it in a way that means you can see what I've typed.
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Should I spoiler text that?
Also, FK will NOT be happy.
I'm not spoiler texting that.
Also, Sideswipe (chevrolet corvette concept) had his roof off, that's why he looked different.
That doesn't need spoiler texting.
I will not review it until enough people have seen the film, and I can talk about it in a way that means you can see what I've typed.
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Michael Bay has made it known that he will not make a fourth film for some time. In fact, I'm pretty sure he said as much before pre-production on MOON had even started.
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Got to see it tonight in Imax 3d. It was a much better balanced movie I felt. Action was immense! It was actually better to see even more variety of cars in the movie as opposed to the GM brochure of the first.
PS. It was a convertible version of the stingray concept in the 3rd movie hence it looked different to the 2nd movie.
Thought the comedy wasn't as bad as some reviews made out. Sure it was spread across too many characters but the jokes weren't too much. Was glad skids/mudflap were gone. Disappointed Arcee wasn't in it. I almost didn't realise Soundwave was in as he was now in car form. Also Shockwave was badass! Found it a bit funny as well in the end that Optimus couldn't beat Sentinal, yet Megatron did fairly easily only for Optimus with one arm to kick Megatron to the curb.
PS. It was a convertible version of the stingray concept in the 3rd movie hence it looked different to the 2nd movie.
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It's all in the element of surprise.
Sentinel didn't see that coming....well, because who would have? And Megatron is an idiot who somehow thought Optimus would just go ahead and let him take control for some reason, so he let his guard down.
Actually, that's one of the only things I didn't really like about the movie.
How could the guy who masterminded a plan as complex as the one they used to get Sentinel Prime back, let himself be easily fooled into letting his guard down by some chick who he had literally seen for the very first time?
I actually found myself laughing at that. So the ending just felt kind of forced.
Not to mention, Optimus was beating the 🤬 out of Megatron in the end of the second one, Megatron just happened to escape before Optimus could finish him. And this time Optimus had a giant axe, so that probably helped some.
Sentinel didn't see that coming....well, because who would have? And Megatron is an idiot who somehow thought Optimus would just go ahead and let him take control for some reason, so he let his guard down.
Actually, that's one of the only things I didn't really like about the movie.
How could the guy who masterminded a plan as complex as the one they used to get Sentinel Prime back, let himself be easily fooled into letting his guard down by some chick who he had literally seen for the very first time?
I actually found myself laughing at that. So the ending just felt kind of forced.
Not to mention, Optimus was beating the 🤬 out of Megatron in the end of the second one, Megatron just happened to escape before Optimus could finish him. And this time Optimus had a giant axe, so that probably helped some.
I agree with everything else you said though.
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Um, anyone who has spent more than five minutes with Megatron ...
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Megatron has always been a backstabber, and Sentinel probably knew that, but a complete moron is different.
Seeing betrayal coming is one thing, but seeing betrayal coming while only moments away from a victory that relies on your survival is something most people wouldn't expect from the guy who masterminded a several year long, and extremely complex plan.
Seeing betrayal coming is one thing, but seeing betrayal coming while only moments away from a victory that relies on your survival is something most people wouldn't expect from the guy who masterminded a several year long, and extremely complex plan.
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I really don't understand why the low reviews .Yes it wasn't the greatest Movie you will ever see but some of the scenes were Astonishing.
And the acting ,I don't know why such negativity ,it's a Transformers Movie I wasn't suspecting oscar winning Performance but it wasn't that bad .
I honestly would rate this Movie a (7.7/8)/10 There I said it .
Yes the whole Megatron suddenly realising that he won't be the leader of the Decepticons and timming his attack on Sentinal when clearly he should have saved the pillars then attack him (how did they leave the Pillars that UNprotected though)
And the acting ,I don't know why such negativity ,it's a Transformers Movie I wasn't suspecting oscar winning Performance but it wasn't that bad .
I honestly would rate this Movie a (7.7/8)/10 There I said it .
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Eh-hmm.
Deep breath.
WHAT!?
Real quick, why the entire series makes no sense, whatsoever.
Movie 1: The cube will determine the outcome of the war. It is the only hope and the source of all energy. And Megatron is on ice because while near absolute zero space is no problem, -30(F) water is. Fight to free Megatron, then get the cube. It is important enough to risk everything for, for both sides. Megatron and the cube arrived on Earth a few hundred years ago and was discovered and hidden away. Megatron was after the cube.
Movie 2: Actually, they have been here so long that a new character jokes about the wheel being his ancestor. The Fallen has some sun energy stealer placed in one of the pyramids. Megatron always knew about The Fallen, and calls him master. Ah, so this is the big plan. Not sure why the fuss over the cube now though. I mean, the sun energy thing will do the same thing, right? Makes the cube a non-issue. Also, The Fallen can only be killed by a prime, because he is one of the original primes turned bad, but Megatron can beat the holy hell out of primes left and right. Anyway, so now we've had a massive ancient plan in place that just got busted up.
Movie 3:
Also, why did it take me 90 minutes to get to the fun? The last hour was mostly awesome. But I had to sit through 20-30 minute blocks of no giant robots in a film about giant robots.
Now for my fanboy geek rant. Nothing from here has anything to do with the films as films and more to do with my lifelong sci-fi geekdom. Feel free to ignore this bit if you don't care about the rantings of a G1 and Start Trek geek.
Anyway, this film was fun to watch in 3D and the actual battle at the end was incredible. But that is the only redeeming value it has in my mind. OK, Shia didn't say, "whoa whoa whoa whoa," nearly as often.
Could have done with less uses of some cursing. Some of it felt forced.
Deep breath.
WHAT!?
Real quick, why the entire series makes no sense, whatsoever.
Movie 1: The cube will determine the outcome of the war. It is the only hope and the source of all energy. And Megatron is on ice because while near absolute zero space is no problem, -30(F) water is. Fight to free Megatron, then get the cube. It is important enough to risk everything for, for both sides. Megatron and the cube arrived on Earth a few hundred years ago and was discovered and hidden away. Megatron was after the cube.
Movie 2: Actually, they have been here so long that a new character jokes about the wheel being his ancestor. The Fallen has some sun energy stealer placed in one of the pyramids. Megatron always knew about The Fallen, and calls him master. Ah, so this is the big plan. Not sure why the fuss over the cube now though. I mean, the sun energy thing will do the same thing, right? Makes the cube a non-issue. Also, The Fallen can only be killed by a prime, because he is one of the original primes turned bad, but Megatron can beat the holy hell out of primes left and right. Anyway, so now we've had a massive ancient plan in place that just got busted up.
Movie 3:
Actually, Megatron was supposed to be coming to meet Sentinel Prime (everyone see the proper spelling there?), about a thousand years apart, but they were going to meet up here on Earth, Sentinel was going to defect to the Decepticons and help Megatron enslave all of humanity by using space bridge technology. But Sentinel crashed on the moon back in the 1960s. Sentinel is the only one that can launch teh space bridge and the only way to waken him is with the Matrix of Leadership. The Decepticons are fully, 100% aware of this. They have this massive, 50-year plan in place to set it up so that Optimus discovers The Ark and revives Sentinel. Then they can go forward with their very original plan.
There is only one consistent thing among all films. Optimus always manages to not be in the final fight until the very end.
But what about the other two movies? We acknowledge them. Sam whines about saving the Earth twice so many times that we can't ignore that fact. Its in my face. Cube, not important. Sun energy thingy, not important. Original plan all along, Sentinel and the Space Bridge. Are the writers seriously that gorram bad?
While we are on Cybertron-sized plot holes. Sam can't tell anyone about his involvement in these events? It cannot clearly be a secret any more. I mean, you have Simmons on Bill O'Reilly discussing opinion polls on whether we should take sides or not. Opinion Polls. There is no secret left, but Sam can't put it on his resume? Can't be given a job in the government? If he discusses it he can be charged with treason?
And what is with the tiny robots that Megatron feeds like pets or children? They look kind of like the Quintessan sharkbots. Surely they aren't supposed to the be the ones from Fallen that were dying in their egg sacs (
) because they were never given the energy needed to live. Lets ignore that The Cube created all Cybertronian life in the first film.
And the bleeding and spitting all of a sudden, why? Better yet, why do they have red blood? When did they develop oxygen-rich blood? When did they start having oxygen-rich blood when they can walk on the moon or fly through space without breathing aids, aka, without oxygen? Yellow spit made more sense. And do they drink motor oil to replenish their fluids.
And why is Bumblebee still not talking after that odd moment of talking at the end of the first movie? And why is he still a Camaro when they are on military missions on Earth? In fact, exactly how are Camaros, Ferraris, Corvettes, etc inconspicuous during covert military missions? Clearly they can change alt forms any time they want.
And did anyone else notice that not one Autobot got a kill that wasn't related to some form of interference? Sentinel is beat because the girl has the world's most uncomfortable conversation in the film with Megatron, which leads to Megatron's death. Bumblebee survived assassination because Wheelie and Fringe (Why are they there?) crashed a ship overhead. And if I were to watch it again and take a tally, I think humans killed more Decepticons than the Autobots did.
The Wreckers, really? Was the beer gut in bot mode necessary for the NASCAR bots? Back to Wheelie and Fringe also. Why get rid of Skidds and Mudflap just to give these two more attention? Better yet, why is Sam's involvement hush hush, but he gets to keep these two around forannoyance comedic relief?
Lazerbeak was awesome. The buzzard look was a very good change from the original generic hawk design.
There is only one consistent thing among all films. Optimus always manages to not be in the final fight until the very end.
But what about the other two movies? We acknowledge them. Sam whines about saving the Earth twice so many times that we can't ignore that fact. Its in my face. Cube, not important. Sun energy thingy, not important. Original plan all along, Sentinel and the Space Bridge. Are the writers seriously that gorram bad?
While we are on Cybertron-sized plot holes. Sam can't tell anyone about his involvement in these events? It cannot clearly be a secret any more. I mean, you have Simmons on Bill O'Reilly discussing opinion polls on whether we should take sides or not. Opinion Polls. There is no secret left, but Sam can't put it on his resume? Can't be given a job in the government? If he discusses it he can be charged with treason?
And what is with the tiny robots that Megatron feeds like pets or children? They look kind of like the Quintessan sharkbots. Surely they aren't supposed to the be the ones from Fallen that were dying in their egg sacs (
) because they were never given the energy needed to live. Lets ignore that The Cube created all Cybertronian life in the first film.And the bleeding and spitting all of a sudden, why? Better yet, why do they have red blood? When did they develop oxygen-rich blood? When did they start having oxygen-rich blood when they can walk on the moon or fly through space without breathing aids, aka, without oxygen? Yellow spit made more sense. And do they drink motor oil to replenish their fluids.
And why is Bumblebee still not talking after that odd moment of talking at the end of the first movie? And why is he still a Camaro when they are on military missions on Earth? In fact, exactly how are Camaros, Ferraris, Corvettes, etc inconspicuous during covert military missions? Clearly they can change alt forms any time they want.
And did anyone else notice that not one Autobot got a kill that wasn't related to some form of interference? Sentinel is beat because the girl has the world's most uncomfortable conversation in the film with Megatron, which leads to Megatron's death. Bumblebee survived assassination because Wheelie and Fringe (Why are they there?) crashed a ship overhead. And if I were to watch it again and take a tally, I think humans killed more Decepticons than the Autobots did.
The Wreckers, really? Was the beer gut in bot mode necessary for the NASCAR bots? Back to Wheelie and Fringe also. Why get rid of Skidds and Mudflap just to give these two more attention? Better yet, why is Sam's involvement hush hush, but he gets to keep these two around for
Lazerbeak was awesome. The buzzard look was a very good change from the original generic hawk design.
Now for my fanboy geek rant. Nothing from here has anything to do with the films as films and more to do with my lifelong sci-fi geekdom. Feel free to ignore this bit if you don't care about the rantings of a G1 and Start Trek geek.
Sentinel Prime: He's a pacifist! Megatron killed him in battle because he was reluctant to fight as he was a slave gladiator when Cybertron was under Quintessan rule. His biggest weakness was that he hated the fighting and knew that he could not lead the Autobots into victory. He lacked the heart and bravery necessary to lead, but tried his best, as he would not allow tyranny to rule Cybertron. As he was dying he passed the Matrix of Leadership to Alpha Trion to keep until the next Autobot leader emerged. And how do you go from leader of the good guys, to reluctantly surrendering, to all out tyranny? I mean, it's the equivalent of finding out that Optimus Prime attempted to enslave all of humanity in 100 years.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." This was a line in Star Trek II, delivered by one Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Spock, made the ultimate self-sacrifice to save over 600 people. This film bastardized this line, turning it into a line, spoken by the same Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Sentinel Prime (sigh), attempted to enslave all of humanity. It doesn't even make sense. What many and what few? How many Cybertronians are there? If you mean the death of nine Autobots then I guess it makes sense, but it ignores the full meaning of the statement. It is Sentinel's justification for committing one of the most heinous acts a person in power can commit.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." This was a line in Star Trek II, delivered by one Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Spock, made the ultimate self-sacrifice to save over 600 people. This film bastardized this line, turning it into a line, spoken by the same Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Sentinel Prime (sigh), attempted to enslave all of humanity. It doesn't even make sense. What many and what few? How many Cybertronians are there? If you mean the death of nine Autobots then I guess it makes sense, but it ignores the full meaning of the statement. It is Sentinel's justification for committing one of the most heinous acts a person in power can commit.
Anyway, this film was fun to watch in 3D and the actual battle at the end was incredible. But that is the only redeeming value it has in my mind. OK, Shia didn't say, "whoa whoa whoa whoa," nearly as often.
Could have done with less uses of some cursing. Some of it felt forced.
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Eh-hmm.
Deep breath.
WHAT!?
Real quick, why the entire series makes no sense, whatsoever.
Movie 1: The cube will determine the outcome of the war. It is the only hope and the source of all energy. And Megatron is on ice because while near absolute zero space is no problem, -30(F) water is. Fight to free Megatron, then get the cube. It is important enough to risk everything for, for both sides. Megatron and the cube arrived on Earth a few hundred years ago and was discovered and hidden away. Megatron was after the cube.
Movie 2: Actually, they have been here so long that a new character jokes about the wheel being his ancestor. The Fallen has some sun energy stealer placed in one of the pyramids. Megatron always knew about The Fallen, and calls him master. Ah, so this is the big plan. Not sure why the fuss over the cube now though. I mean, the sun energy thing will do the same thing, right? Makes the cube a non-issue. Also, The Fallen can only be killed by a prime, because he is one of the original primes turned bad, but Megatron can beat the holy hell out of primes left and right. Anyway, so now we've had a massive ancient plan in place that just got busted up.
Movie 3:Also, why did it take me 90 minutes to get to the fun? The last hour was mostly awesome. But I had to sit through 20-30 minute blocks of no giant robots in a film about giant robots.Actually, Megatron was supposed to be coming to meet Sentinel Prime (everyone see the proper spelling there?), about a thousand years apart, but they were going to meet up here on Earth, Sentinel was going to defect to the Decepticons and help Megatron enslave all of humanity by using space bridge technology. But Sentinel crashed on the moon back in the 1960s. Sentinel is the only one that can launch teh space bridge and the only way to waken him is with the Matrix of Leadership. The Decepticons are fully, 100% aware of this. They have this massive, 50-year plan in place to set it up so that Optimus discovers The Ark and revives Sentinel. Then they can go forward with their very original plan.
There is only one consistent thing among all films. Optimus always manages to not be in the final fight until the very end.
But what about the other two movies? We acknowledge them. Sam whines about saving the Earth twice so many times that we can't ignore that fact. Its in my face. Cube, not important. Sun energy thingy, not important. Original plan all along, Sentinel and the Space Bridge. Are the writers seriously that gorram bad?
While we are on Cybertron-sized plot holes. Sam can't tell anyone about his involvement in these events? It cannot clearly be a secret any more. I mean, you have Simmons on Bill O'Reilly discussing opinion polls on whether we should take sides or not. Opinion Polls. There is no secret left, but Sam can't put it on his resume? Can't be given a job in the government? If he discusses it he can be charged with treason?
And what is with the tiny robots that Megatron feeds like pets or children? They look kind of like the Quintessan sharkbots. Surely they aren't supposed to the be the ones from Fallen that were dying in their egg sacs (
And the bleeding and spitting all of a sudden, why? Better yet, why do they have red blood? When did they develop oxygen-rich blood? When did they start having oxygen-rich blood when they can walk on the moon or fly through space without breathing aids, aka, without oxygen? Yellow spit made more sense. And do they drink motor oil to replenish their fluids.
And why is Bumblebee still not talking after that odd moment of talking at the end of the first movie? And why is he still a Camaro when they are on military missions on Earth? In fact, exactly how are Camaros, Ferraris, Corvettes, etc inconspicuous during covert military missions? Clearly they can change alt forms any time they want.
And did anyone else notice that not one Autobot got a kill that wasn't related to some form of interference? Sentinel is beat because the girl has the world's most uncomfortable conversation in the film with Megatron, which leads to Megatron's death. Bumblebee survived assassination because Wheelie and Fringe (Why are they there?) crashed a ship overhead. And if I were to watch it again and take a tally, I think humans killed more Decepticons than the Autobots did.
The Wreckers, really? Was the beer gut in bot mode necessary for the NASCAR bots? Back to Wheelie and Fringe also. Why get rid of Skidds and Mudflap just to give these two more attention? Better yet, why is Sam's involvement hush hush, but he gets to keep these two around forannoyancecomedic relief?
Lazerbeak was awesome. The buzzard look was a very good change from the original generic hawk design.
Now for my fanboy geek rant. Nothing from here has anything to do with the films as films and more to do with my lifelong sci-fi geekdom. Feel free to ignore this bit if you don't care about the rantings of a G1 and Start Trek geek.
Sentinel Prime: He's a pacifist! Megatron killed him in battle because he was reluctant to fight as he was a slave gladiator when Cybertron was under Quintessan rule. His biggest weakness was that he hated the fighting and knew that he could not lead the Autobots into victory. He lacked the heart and bravery necessary to lead, but tried his best, as he would not allow tyranny to rule Cybertron. As he was dying he passed the Matrix of Leadership to Alpha Trion to keep until the next Autobot leader emerged. And how do you go from leader of the good guys, to reluctantly surrendering, to all out tyranny? I mean, it's the equivalent of finding out that Optimus Prime attempted to enslave all of humanity in 100 years.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." This was a line in Star Trek II, delivered by one Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Spock, made the ultimate self-sacrifice to save over 600 people. This film bastardized this line, turning it into a line, spoken by the same Leonard Nimoy, as his character, Sentinel Prime (sigh), attempted to enslave all of humanity. It doesn't even make sense. What many and what few? How many Cybertronians are there? If you mean the death of nine Autobots then I guess it makes sense, but it ignores the full meaning of the statement. It is Sentinel's justification for committing one of the most heinous acts a person in power can commit.
Anyway, this film was fun to watch in 3D and the actual battle at the end was incredible. But that is the only redeeming value it has in my mind. OK, Shia didn't say, "whoa whoa whoa whoa," nearly as often.
Could have done with less uses of some cursing. Some of it felt forced.
Top Post and I agree with Most if not all of the above,However if they had taken the real Approach to it we would have just had the First Movie then What ?.Michael Bay seems to be Impressing People like me I want the Transformers to Transform to a Italia a sls a NASCAR ,I want to see slow Motion scenes ,I like to see everything Blow up Yes a good story shouldn't be sacrificed for this to happen but I am not a die hard Transformers Fan (I am not speaking for this type of fans)If I am going to the Movies to watch a Huge Robotic Alien war to save/Destroy the earth I won't be Picking stuff about the Plot to be honest.
Oh and I am glad someone else noticed the Blood I was like
Oh number 2 You guys probably won't believe this But while watching the Movie there was a Power Surge and the Power was off at the cinema (I always wanted that to happen to me someday but it happened twice and the Poor usher was slaughtered by everyone (especially me
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I think I guessed correctly then.
By the way, I spotted a couple of things, and seeing as you have the right kind of brain, I'll run them by you.....
Sentinel Prime is a Prime, right?
Weren't there so many primes (7, minus the fallen = 6) that sealed themselves in a tomb made of themselves in ROTF that themselves were all dead and therefore there could not be anymore of themselves to cause upset, and therefore the Fallen couldn't find the matrix and he had to go hide because there was one prime left and only if he died, could the fallen guy return to earth... themselves....
Sentinel Prime is a Prime, right?
2. LOL.
3. Did anyone notice Megs scan a garbage truck (check out my american) and transform into it, only for it to have NO RELEVANCE WHATSOEVER.
Or did I drop off somewhere.....
Sorry if that spoiled anything for any potential viewers... but meh... the film-makers already did that THEMSELVES....
Math problem (slightly unrelated, in fact; wrong film, therefore; wrong thread....):
You are looking at a very big body of water. You drop 5 functioning decepticons in. There is 1 more decepticon at the bottom of the body of water, but it is non-functional. You "KEEL ZE LITTLE VARN!!" to harvest vital parts for the repair of the non-functioning decepticon, which in turn is successfully brought back into a functional state. All the decepticons leave the body of water at once.
How many functioning decepticons leave the water at once?
Oh, and one more thing....
There cannot possibly be any more films following these particular characters, in this particular way, by these particular directors/film-makers, similarly to how Hitler will not be invading anywhere in the next couple of weex.Reviews are not much in favor. Actions are awesome but the new actors are not much successful to entertain viewers. So may be this is the last Transformers series
👍[SIZE="-5"]I actually really like these films by the way.....but not for their plots.[/SIZE]
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Minor story corrections could have adjusted this. For Fallen have The Fallen in the Nemesis just show up, after having intercepted Optimus' message from the first movie, and then he contacts Starscream and tells the Decepticons how to revive Megatron. Even give him some special control over Megatron because of it. Then have The Fallen explain the Sun Harvester story and how they can use it to rebuild the Allspark.
For Dark of the Moon all you needed was to have the Decepticons recently discover The Ark.
The only other alteration needed is that Earth being a rendezvous point for Megatron is dropped. Maybe even have The Ark still floating through space and the Decepticons find it and move it to the moon to set up their plan. And with humans rebuilding Cybertron and Cybertronian technology they can create new Sun Harvesters and rebuild the allspark. The whole space race thing was ridiculous, even if it did allow us to see Optimus Prime meet Buzz Aldrin (dear God, in a proper setting...).
They can be Italias, SLS, NASCAR, whatever, because they can clearly change alt modes like I change clothes, easier even. But on covert military missions an Italia, Camaro, Corvette and tricked out flame-painted truck stand WAAAAAAY out. "Colonel, was your team involved in this strike?" No, ma'am, that must have been some other highly trained military team with guns mounted on supercars."
Also, even if you just want a movie where giant robots fight you have to hate most of the first 90 minutes. It's the Sam Witwicky trilogy, not the Transformers.
Pulling out some non-movie based background: Optimus is also a Prime, but not an original 7. The original 7 were (based on comics) created by Primus to be guardians against the threat of another Unicron attack, as Primus knew that if he ever awoke Unicron would sense him and awaken as well, to destroy the universe all over again (The Fallen's legacy being that his initial betrayal was to awaken Primus, purposefully resulting in Unicron's return). From them the entire race was born. If Primus and Unicron are seen as the God and Devil of Cybetron the original 7 are like demi-gods, or angels/demons.
The Primes today are just current generation Cybertronians who contain the leadership qualities of the original seven that only the Matrix of Leadership can detect. It is why the Matrix of Leadership can only truly be used by one who is pure of heart and willing to defend life and freedom at any cost.
Before becoming Sentinel Prime he was Sentinel Major, on a Cybertron enslaved by the Quintesson's who had divided the race into two groups, consumable machines (servants, appliance robots) and war machines. Sentinel Major was one of few consumables given weaponry as he was a gladiator for entertainment. Once the revolution occurred two other primes died. Sentinel became prime and when it became clear that the war machines leader, Megatron, wanted to rule Cybertron via tyranny, enslaving the consumables, a civil war broke out and the factions of Autobots and Decepticons were born.
I don't think that was Megatron, but an unnamed Decepticon that had just arrived. Megatron was still in his old Middle Eastern junk wagon form.
Better question:
Why do we see repair droids now?
Unicron. And where Unicron goes there is a Galvatron. Just saying.
It may surprise some, but I do have the first film on DVD. They are special effects bonanzas. I just can't believe how horribly Michael Bay can do the rest of it. I mean, this isn't missing the point Pearl Harbor bad, but it is enough to where I can still look at it and say that this is not the same Transformers as any of the original source material.
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Thankyou.
I knew I could count on you to inform, educate, and correct me.
I applaud your wisdom.
Albeit with smileys and beer glasses.
I have some of the original comics, from issue 14 or so I think, but I don't remember any of that back story....
Any idea where I might find such stuff?
P.S. Don't tell anyone, as they just wont understand that I like toys from my youth despite having aged 27 years since.
Our little secret....
Nice one.
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I knew I could count on you to inform, educate, and correct me.
I applaud your wisdom.
Albeit with smileys and beer glasses.
I have some of the original comics, from issue 14 or so I think, but I don't remember any of that back story....
Any idea where I might find such stuff?
P.S. Don't tell anyone, as they just wont understand that I like toys from my youth despite having aged 27 years since.
Our little secret....
Nice one.
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I left the theater in desbelief. Never thought it could be this bad. Oh the irony of a 458 Italia Autobot with italian accent ... I mean, italian accent? LOL
Next: Harry Potter 7 part 2. At least there's a book to follow and if the script didn't butcher it much, should be a good movie.
Next-to next (in this kind of blockbuster movies): wake me up when "The Hobbit Part 1" gets released, Christmas 2012.
Next: Harry Potter 7 part 2. At least there's a book to follow and if the script didn't butcher it much, should be a good movie.
Next-to next (in this kind of blockbuster movies): wake me up when "The Hobbit Part 1" gets released, Christmas 2012.
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One thing still bothers me is why when Optimus awakened Sentinel He spoke English 
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Well, looks like my memory is a bit fuzzy. It is apparently the cartoons that explain his history, he is just listed as one of the [previous primes in the comics. And apparently it was Megatron's predecessor that originally led the Decepticons, but Sentinel beat him and was later killed by Megatron.Thankyou.
I knew I could count on you to inform, educate, and correct me.
I applaud your wisdom.
Albeit with smileys and beer glasses.
I have some of the original comics, from issue 14 or so I think, but I don't remember any of that back story....
Any idea where I might find such stuff?
P.S. Don't tell anyone, as they just wont understand that I like toys from my youth despite having aged 27 years since.
Our little secret....
Nice one.
Here is the TF Wiki.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sentinel_Prime_(G1)
Also, I did some more digging, and apparently in the movie canon Sentinel is supposed to be an original prime, like The Fallen. So yeah, you did find another plot hole.
EDIT: Or not, as the TF wiki page says one of Sam's ramblings in Fallen mentions his expedition.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sentinel_Prime_(ROTF)
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