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Sometimes my friend and i see who can make better use of their money(credits)....we both start off with like 100,000Cr and each buy any car we want and modify whatever we want ...the other person leaves the room while the other guy buys their car and modifies it and vise versa........then it's a surprise when we start the race plus you don't know what the other guy did to his car........the only rule is you can't spend more than 100,000Cr (you could use any amount though 200,000 etc.) it's actually pretty fun :cool:
 
Originally posted by Schumy
Sometimes my friend and i see who can make better use of their money(credits)....we both start off with like 100,000Cr and each buy any car we want and modify whatever we want ...the other person leaves the room while the other guy buys their car and modifies it and vise versa........then it's a surprise when we start the race plus you don't know what the other guy did to his car........the only rule is you can't spend more than 100,000Cr (you could use any amount though 200,000 etc.) it's actually pretty fun :cool:
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That's a pretty cool idea.

What would you do? Buy an R32 Skyline, some soft tyres, and some turbo upgrades maybe. Mmmm...
 
Originally posted by vat_man


That's a pretty cool idea.

What would you do? Buy an R32 Skyline, some soft tyres, and some turbo upgrades maybe. Mmmm...
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I bought the elise 190 , upgraded the tires,exhaust but i was mostly concerned with getting the full customizable suspension to make this little machine handle like it's on rails........it's always interesting to see what your oppenent did and usually the results are quite different...100,000 is pretty limiting though......200,000 will get you more of what you want :)
 
Originally posted by Schumy


I bought the elise 190 , upgraded the tires,exhaust but i was mostly concerned with getting the full customizable suspension to make this little machine handle like it's on rails........it's always interesting to see what your oppenent did and usually the results are quite different...100,000 is pretty limiting though......200,000 will get you more of what you want :)
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I think a smaller amount would be better - force you to make choices in what you buy and how you tune - we just had a great example there of two completely different approaches - sledgehammer vs scalpel if you will...
 
I was thinking something like an RX-7 RZ fully assed out. But that's just because I'm such a rotor fan.

If you're going up to 200,000, you'll end up with stuff like the Castrol Supra. Which can be fun, but not so challenging. I would make it more like 60,000, or even less. Something so that you can't fully upgrade a car.

That's a really cool idea man! I'll have to give it a try. And we could start the "50k CR" Challenge. Entries would have to include all tuning options and add ons. Then we could pick a course and turn in best times or something.

~LoudMusic
 
Originally posted by vat_man


I think a smaller amount would be better - force you to make choices in what you buy and how you tune - we just had a great example there of two completely different approaches - sledgehammer vs scalpel if you will...
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what's sledgehammer vs scalpel?.....please ellaborate :confused:
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I was thinking something like an RX-7 RZ fully assed out. But that's just because I'm such a rotor fan.

If you're going up to 200,000, you'll end up with stuff like the Castrol Supra. Which can be fun, but not so challenging. I would make it more like 60,000, or even less. Something so that you can't fully upgrade a car.

That's a really cool idea man! I'll have to give it a try. And we could start the "50k CR" Challenge. Entries would have to include all tuning options and add ons. Then we could pick a course and turn in best times or something.

~LoudMusic
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Sounds good but 100,000 isn't that much........i guess maybe if you bought some Japanese car you could do almost everything but an elise is like 60,000Cr right there and full-cust. suspension is like 17,000 and new tires are a must so you don't get that far with an elise........yah 200,000 is definitely too much! :)
 
Ok why doesnt everybody just do this. If you are playing with a minimum of 200,000 Cr I for one would buy a Viper GTS. They cost like 80G's right? Well, put a stage 4 Turbo on that sucker and you already have this thing neara 1000 HP. Add a Port Polish and man you have that thing at 1000 HP. I think it would give a pretty good race. Am I right?
 
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Ok why doesnt everybody just do this. If you are playing with a minimum of 200,000 Cr I for one would buy a Viper GTS. They cost like 80G's right? Well, put a stage 4 Turbo on that sucker and you already have this thing neara 1000 HP. Add a Port Polish and man you have that thing at 1000 HP. I think it would give a pretty good race. Am I right?
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HP and top speed isn't everything, bub. You've got to be able to hang on coming round those corners. An extreem example would be comparing the Escudo to an F1. The Escudo has nearly 2000hp and tops out over 300mph. The F1s have around 850hp and top out around 230mph. I'd take an F1 over the Escudo any day, because I can TURN and I can be doing over 100mph through most of those turns.

I'd get something that comes with good handling and slap a small turbo and some good shocks in it. Depending on the length of the race, I might buy some nice tires too.

~LoudMusic
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic


HP and top speed isn't everything, bub. You've got to be able to hang on coming round those corners. An extreem example would be comparing the Escudo to an F1. The Escudo has nearly 2000hp and tops out over 300mph. The F1s have around 850hp and top out around 230mph. I'd take an F1 over the Escudo any day, because I can TURN and I can be doing over 100mph through most of those turns.

I'd get something that comes with good handling and slap a small turbo and some good shocks in it. Depending on the length of the race, I might buy some nice tires too.

~LoudMusic
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I know that HP and top speed isnt everything bub. I as well would take an F1 over an Escudo any day. I also happen to think that the cornering ability of a Viper is very acceptable. The Viper can handle nice turns with slow down but not to much. After exiting the corner you can gun the gas and be on your way as well. Most other cars can do this but not as well. All of this also depends on what track we are disscusing. On the Test Course the Viper would rule but on say somewhere like Cote ' De Azur I would have to say the Vipers speed and handling is not an important factor considering it would probably lose to a Skyline or something. Now, does anybody agree?
 
Originally posted by ViperConcept


I know that HP and top speed isnt everything bub. I as well would take an F1 over an Escudo any day. I also happen to think that the cornering ability of a Viper is very acceptable. The Viper can handle nice turns with slow down but not to much. After exiting the corner you can gun the gas and be on your way as well. Most other cars can do this but not as well. All of this also depends on what track we are disscusing. On the Test Course the Viper would rule but on say somewhere like Cote ' De Azur I would have to say the Vipers speed and handling is not an important factor considering it would probably lose to a Skyline or something. Now, does anybody agree?
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agreeable,but a viper with 1000hp and everything else stock is a huge mismatch b/c the acceleration and top speed would far out weigh the handling capabilities....oh wait , your acceleration and top speed would also be **** b/c you spent all your money on power and didn't buy a racing transmission to properly use that power
 
Originally posted by Schumy
Sounds good but 100,000 isn't that much........i guess maybe if you bought some Japanese car you could do almost everything but an elise is like 60,000Cr right there and full-cust. suspension is like 17,000 and new tires are a must so you don't get that far with an elise........yah 200,000 is definitely too much! :)
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Yeah, that's why I suggested a small amount - do you buy an expensive car and do very little to it, or do you buy something cheap and max it out? You'd get great races where one car might be strong in a straight line, but the opponent is superb in the corners.

That's what I was getting at with the sledgehammer vs scalpel comment. Your little Lotus would be very precise, like a scalpel, whereas my hypothetical Skyline would be mega in a straight line but be a handfull cornering (brute force = sledgehammer).
 
if you saved money for the racing tranny then the viper would smoke on tracks with mostly straightaways ........200,000 would probably fully supe an elise and on a track like trial mountain the 1000hp viper would get torn apart! :eek:
 
Originally posted by vat_man


Yeah, that's why I suggested a small amount - do you buy an expensive car and do very little to it, or do you buy something cheap and max it out? You'd get great races where one car might be strong in a straight line, but the opponent is superb in the corners.

That's what I was getting at with the sledgehammer vs scalpel comment. Your little Lotus would be very precise, like a scalpel, whereas my hypothetical Skyline would be mega in a straight line but be a handfull cornering (brute force = sledgehammer).
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i see....what's the cost of the skyline compared to the elise?
Yah, that's me i'm usually geared towards the precise scalpel :)
 
Originally posted by Schumy

i see....what's the cost of the skyline compared to the elise?
Yah, that's me i'm usually geared towards the precise scalpel :)
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dunno - think the R32 was mid 30's. Couldn't tell you on the Elise.
 
Originally posted by vat_man


dunno - think the R32 was mid 30's. Couldn't tell you on the Elise.
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i think its around 60 and i think stock that these cars are similar in performance so its quite obvious that the Japanese cars like the skyline are better value
 
Originally posted by Schumy

i think its around 60 and i think stock that these cars are similar in performance so its quite obvious that the Japanese cars like the skyline are better value
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Mmm - set of superhard tyres and some NA work would make that little car pretty handy...
 
what about the Evo VI? they're light and cheap.

plus, here's a thought. you could strech your dollar and use a prize car. get all golds in rally and win an escudo. all golds in time trial (arcade) = panoz esperante gt-1. prototype rally cars. gt-40. corvette c5r. the f-1 cars. the list is almost endless. it would give an extreme advantage to someone. instead of spending 100k on the escudo, win it.

and if 100k is not enough, and 200k is too much, what about making classes? certain cars at certain price values. some cars can be full mod at 100k, and some cost more than 100k new. special classes for race-won cars, rally cars, and f-1 cars. sounds like a good idea. someone could run with it.
 
Originally posted by gran_turismo_bandit
plus, here's a thought. you could strech your dollar and use a prize car. get all golds in rally and win an escudo. all golds in time trial (arcade) = panoz esperante gt-1. prototype rally cars. gt-40. corvette c5r. the f-1 cars. the list is almost endless. it would give an extreme advantage to someone. instead of spending 100k on the escudo, win it.
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Er - I think that's kinda missing the point of the exercise.

The concept is that you're very restricted in what you can do - the scenario above results in everyone running F1 cars, which defeats the point of the restriction. It just then becomes a race to who gets the F1 first.

The idea is that you have one car only, that you have a set budget for buying and modifying, and then you race it against someone who's done the same thing and see who best managed the compromises.

Hadn't considered the Evo - pretty handy little car, that one.
 
Originally posted by vat_man


Er - I think that's kinda missing the point of the exercise.

The concept is that you're very restricted in what you can do - the scenario above results in everyone running F1 cars, which defeats the point of the restriction. It just then becomes a race to who gets the F1 first.

The idea is that you have one car only, that you have a set budget for buying and modifying, and then you race it against someone who's done the same thing and see who best managed the compromises.

Hadn't considered the Evo - pretty handy little car, that one.
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yeah, i guess that the prize car idea isn't a good one. if somebody wanted to organize this, it would be a good contest.

here's an idea for classes for it:
0-20k
20k-40k
40k-60k
60k-80k
80k-100k
100k-120k
120k-140k
140k-160k
160k-180k
180k-200k
over 200k

have special classes for F1, the race mod cars, and rally cars. also, cars that are won in races would not be allowed, because then you would have an unfair advantage by not having to purchase the car.

i could organize it, but if somebody else really wants to, they can.

it would not just be just which car is the fastest. it would be a three-race series, and the times from each race would be added together to get the final time.

The three courses:
Super Speedway
Laguna Seca
Complex String

these would ensure that the cars would have to be able to turn, not just go fast and scuff the wall *cough*escudo*cough*
 
Yeah, I'll organize this. Now it's official.

Three race series, add your times from each race to get the time that you submit.

The Tracks:
Super Speedway
Laguna Seca
Complex String

The Classes:
under 20k
20k-40k
over 40k-60k
over 60k-80k
over 80k-100k
over 100k-120k
over 120k-140k
over 140k-160k
over 160k-180k
over 180k-200k

Car Classes:
Normal Cars
F1 Cars
Rally Cars
Race-Modified Cars

Cars from one class cannot compete in any other class!!!
Race-won cars cannot be entered in any class. They must be cars that you can purchase in order to make this fair.

Either post times on this thread or e-mail them to me.
Type 'Race Times' in the subject box.

No matter which method you use, you must provide:
Price range entered,
Car class
Car name
Mods performed
Final Time.

All times sent to me will be posted on this thread.

Happy Racing!
 
Total Time: 7.41:965
Price Class: 20k-40k
Car Class: Normal
Car: PT Crusier
Parts:
NA Tune Stage 1
Sport Computer
Lightweight Stage 1

Cost: around 25k

Track Times:
1.48:278 Laguna Seca
5.45:560 Complex String
0.48.127 Super Speedway
 
why did you only spend around 25K if you could have spent up to 40K in that class?........I might try this later if i'm not too tired .....right now i'm doing a little competition with the DENSO (stock-S Class)at Deep Forest in Arcade.......the thread is called "test my time please" and it's in the challenges forum...i'm currently in second behind mr. persistence after the list gets updated
 
the reason I only spent 25k is because that's all I had. I'm on Day 21, and have no licenses. I was farther than this, but deleted my save b/c I wasted money on a Silvia (S13 1800cc K's).
 
To anyone:

I'm not one tochange subjects, but has anyone posted about working w/ suspension, or downforce?

I've got Black Box Syndrome over touching suspension. Just because I don't understand it. Yes yes I've read up about it. Just not a gearhead.

I get the basics: drop the car low, you get more aerodynamics and somewhat better handling due to lower center of gravity BUT you can bottom out.

Same with downforce (vaguely) in that more downforce keeps your ends down, but I'm assuming it affects acceleration or top speed?

Usually I just get a car, upgrade the brakes, tranny, exhaust, lighten, then go and shovel the gear ratio to max (or wide) and then smoke most competition.

But that "get my car to ride like it's on rails" intrigued me. Figuring u guys probably know more about this stuff than I do.

HELP?

PLEASE?

Thanks in advance.
 
Um, if you jack a viper to 1000hp, your going to hit its max rpm before its speed gets up there. I tried it on a cpl cars. I put the hp up and the motor would hit max rpm before max speed, and i would decel for like a sec while the rpm dropped down... hp is hardly close to everything...

f1s handle like a mofo'n dream but the ones i have you cant put anything in them, they come stock or nothing
 

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