Tsukuba 9 Hours...What to replace it with.

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I wouldn't mind 2-hour races at Cape Ring, Eiger Nordwand Short Track.

Oh god no. Kaz do not do this plz. I extremely dislike these 2 tracks for actual track driving. Ill drift them, but i hate track driving them. i cant stand even 5 laps at cape and eiger just has terrible pits.

Fix the fits on eiger and make the scenery more interesting and nice for cape. Cape just seems like a really dull track. Do those and ill reconsider ;)
 
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Isn't there a 1000Km race at silverstone this year? I think it's replacing the 24 hour britcar race for one year. That would be pretty cool, but it would be nice if you could only use realistic cars for that event eg. BMW GTR touring car, Audi R8 (09 one), one's that will be used in this years race. (that are in GT6)
 
The 2013 WEC schedule:

1 6 Hours of Silverstone
2 WEC 6 Heures de Spa-Francorchamps
3 24 Heures du Mans
4 6 Hours of São Paulo
5 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas
6 6 Hours of Fuji
7 6 Hours of Shanghai
8 6 Hours of Bahrain

They don't need to include all of those but at least the first three they can surely do. Hopefully a couple of the others if they license those tracks, we already know Silverstone is most certainly coming.

But yes they definitely need the right cars as well. Not a hideous mismatch of random cars that you get in GT5.
 
Isn't there a 1000Km race at silverstone this year? I think it's replacing the 24 hour britcar race for one year. That would be pretty cool, but it would be nice if you could only use realistic cars for that event eg. BMW GTR touring car, Audi R8 (09 one), one's that will be used in this years race. (that are in GT6)

Indeed there is a 1000KM race in the place of the Britcar/Silverstone 24 Hour race this season, both this race and the Nurburgring 24hrs class formats could be replicated easily due to the fact that the field is an assortment of FIA GT3 cars and everyday saloons and hatches.
 
Isn't there a 1000Km race at silverstone this year? I think it's replacing the 24 hour britcar race for one year. That would be pretty cool, but it would be nice if you could only use realistic cars for that event eg. BMW GTR touring car, Audi R8 (09 one), one's that will be used in this years race. (that are in GT6)

I know what you mean, the MX5 TC was close but we missed the NC version in that DLC.
 
I'd like to see an endurance race at Tsukuba replaced with... pretty much any other circuit aside from Twin Ring Motegi.
 
It was also quite astonishing that Kaz himself runs in the real 24 Hrs of Nurburgring, he knows exactly what type of cars run in it and then when does he do for the game? Has us needing to run an LMP1 car or similar in the race to win it. Truly baffling.

How about LMP cars at the Indianapolis 500. What. If licensing or whatever stopped them from making it a Formula GT or Ferrari F10 race, it should have been left off the list entirely, instead of making a mockery of the 100 year old openwheel race.

I must say it still shocks me to this day of the 9 endurance races in GT5, only 1 was new to Gran Turismo, the Indy 500.

Obviously things are not quite right at PD for not only the above mentioned blunders to somehow sneak through the cracks, but also the other numerous head scratching design decisions that appear to display laziness or quite frankly a "dont care" attitude.

I dont mind classic endurance races like the Grand Valley 300 returning, as long as theres plenty of new endurance events to keep it feeling new and fresh. Around 20-25 would be fine I suppose.

In terms of replacing the 9 hours of Tsukuba, they need to first capitalize on the licenses they have. If NASCAR returns, add the Daytona 500. If they get V8 Supercars, add the Bathurst 1000km. With F1, perhaps a 78 lap Monaco race. FIA GT? Spa 24 hours. United Sports Car Racing or Daytona Prototypes? Daytona 24 hours. They had the 1000km Super GT race, but that was really the only endurance race that took advantage of a license.

Then they need to have enough variety in the endurance races with varying rules so each one is leans toward a certain segment of cars. For example, how about an endurance race that only allows cars made before 1970? Or an endurance race that doesnt allow tuning parts, or one that doesnt allow racecars, or one that only allows Italian cars? The non licensed endurance races should avoid becoming too specialized though. Making an endurance thats "Miatas only" really hurts its replay value, as you can't try it with multiple cars.

Also, the length of the races need to be shorter overall. In GT5, there were too many long endurance races, and not enough short ones. People may want to race a favor enduro of theirs over and over, and they're less likely to do that if its 4+ hours long.

In GT5, the estimated length of the enduros was, from shortest to longest: 2hrs, 2hrs, 3hrs, 4hrs, 4hrs, 5hrs, 9hrs, 24 hrs, 24 hrs. Only two 2 hour races is not enough. There should be more of those around that length. A rough number I would suggest is 7 or so 2 hour races, 7 3-4 hour races, and 7 6-24 hour races. Thats seems equal and fair enough
 
I remember we did have the Infineon race that was the real life 2hr 45min countdown. Also the FGT Championship had a 78 lap Monaco event. Yeah, I have no idea what happened from GT4 to GT5...
 
Include weather change and time progression. (and maybe the chicane)

Every track and every race needs the OPTION of time and weather. Every single one. GT5 A-Spec was pretty weak but imagine how much better it would have been just by the having the possibility of time and weather on every track and every race.
 
Yes, keep hope alive! Man, its so weird we had that nighttime Paris circuit in GT4. An enduro there would be tough and the Hong Kong circuit. Dusk in Madrid would have looked pretty cool.
 
Fix:

Add day/night progression and weather change
Add mechanical failures, flags and pace car
Add option to select level of competition (so that they match your skill)
Add multiplayer/B-spec driver co-op to share a car or to have a second car in the same team
Add multiplayer competition, to compete against another person/team

That would make all endurances more exciting. No need to change the track, Tsukuba is actually a pretty nice track in my opinion.
 
Fix:

Add day/night progression and weather change
Add mechanical failures, flags and pace car
Add option to select level of competition (so that they match your skill)
Add multiplayer/B-spec driver co-op to share a car or to have a second car in the same team
Add multiplayer competition, to compete against another person/team

That would make all endurances more exciting. No need to change the track, Tsukuba is actually a pretty nice track in my opinion.

Those would be good add-ons. As far as replacement events go, I think there's already been a lot of good ones listed. Here are the ones that I think would work:
24 Hours of Daytona
24 Hours of Spa
1000km of Monza
1000km of Spa
1000km of Nürburgring
1000km of Fuji
6 Hours of Laguna Seca, like the American Le Mans Series does for their race there.
For right now, I've only included races on tracks that are already in the game. If other tracks that host endurance races for real get added, those races would be worthy additions.
 
Tsukuba isn't a bad track per se, it's just a stupid track to hold an endurance race on because it's so short. In 9 hours I'd much rather do 300 laps of a mid length track than 600+ laps of the tiny Tsukuba.
 
Those would be good add-ons. As far as replacement events go, I think there's already been a lot of good ones listed. Here are the ones that I think would work:
24 Hours of Daytona
24 Hours of Spa
1000km of Monza
1000km of Spa
1000km of Nürburgring
1000km of Fuji
6 Hours of Laguna Seca, like the American Le Mans Series does for their race there.
For right now, I've only included races on tracks that are already in the game. If other tracks that host endurance races for real get added, those races would be worthy additions.

this + 1000 km Bathurst and I'll be happy for a long time :dunce:
 
Tsukuba isn't a bad track per se, it's just a stupid track to hold an endurance race on because it's so short. In 9 hours I'd much rather do 300 laps of a mid length track than 600+ laps of the tiny Tsukuba.

This, I agree with, for the 9 hour-race. To be honest, I find the 4 hour race just fine.
 
A quick scan on Google Maps and that looks to be the case. As the map above shows there is a small extra chicane but that would make little difference.

Im pretty sure in real life they use Tsukuba for drifting mostly and thats just another place for the cars to swing into to drift.
 
Tsukuba isn't a bad track per se, it's just a stupid track to hold an endurance race on because it's so short. In 9 hours I'd much rather do 300 laps of a mid length track than 600+ laps of the tiny Tsukuba.

Thats true, and this is the first time I haven't seen you picking on people.
 
Im pretty sure in real life they use Tsukuba for drifting mostly and thats just another place for the cars to swing into to drift.

Tsukuba isn't "Mostly used for drifting". It's primarily a time attack & 'traditional racing' course.
 
I would love to do a 9hr on SPA. I end up drifting on Tsukuba because it is so damn boring for a lengthy race. I still haven't complete the race, I just can't stand the track anymore.
 
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