Turbo VS NA Driting!

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Which do you Prefer, the sound of the wastegate and turbo spooling, or the sound of a naturally aspirated engine reving?
Turbo cars or NA cars, Both are good! But its upto you.
Post your opinon, i'd like to hear your opinon.
Mine, personally is NA, because they rev faster, and respond better when Drifting.
 
I like turbo, but I usually get the smaller stage 1 or 2 turbo's so i don't have a problem with turbo lag. Also they have more torque, so they start drifts better IMO.
 
Na for me!
PERFECT BALANCE
I like turbo, but I usually get the smaller stage 1 or 2 turbo's so i don't have a problem with turbo lag. Also they have more torque, so they start drifts better IMO.
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Huh don't you get more lag with stage 1-2:confused: ??
 
I prefer NA but alot of cars are little on the weak side without turbos.
I've never tried to drift it but I remember this 350z tuner car that had horrendous turbo lag. I never drove it again after that.
 
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Stage one is the smallest turbo you can get in gt4. It has almost no lag at all.

Stage 4 on the other hand........
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What are you talking about after stage 2 they all have secondary turbines, how could there be lag?Of course the car is gonna be slower below the power band! turbo uses the exhaust (forced induction) low rpm low exhaust output.:yuck:Thats why I like NA no lag period(to bad some cars can't:stock turbo).

Edit: oh your right it does have lag(stage4) at 2000rpm.
 
i prefer turbo. i can drift NA, but i like when i downshift at the right RPM and i get that nice boost.
 
NA is better because of no lag in the car. Less power, but better performance. I did a test with it too on Tsubkuba. I did a Civic Type - R (EK) '98. First I did NA and tuned it as much as I could to handle right. Then I bought the Stage 3 turbo in Tuner Village at Spoon. Ran with the exact same settings. My Civic went :

NA - 1'02. 853

Turbo - 1'05. 216

The lag was tremendous. I haven't tried it with Stage 2 Turbo yet...
 
lag ( although not simulated well) can be good for u if you seek throttle control. NA power responds to every slight movement of the gas pedal.

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gt doesnt simulate lag well but they do simulate spooling time well. Take a highly (Amuse Carbon R Skyline) boosted car on a steep incline, stop completely and try to pull off and u will see. you will have to power brake it and rev to spool the large turbo.
 
I prefer NA or a supercharger for drifting, simply because of the improved throttle response. However, if you are using a heavier flywheel, normal driveshaft etc. and keep the revs up, I'm sure a turbo-charged car can respond almost as quickly. I guess it just depends on how you tune and drive the car. 👍
 
i prefer turbo,but only small ones.the huuuge increase in torque on boost is what i want.However,does GT4 simulate turbos properly,it seems most cars are almost always on boost,the only car ive experienced lag on is the 350Z tuner.God dam that is aweful,pull away in 1st without using brake or E-brake to get it to rev is horrid,it just wont go.Maybe start a new topic with opinions on how realistic the turbos are
 
To be honest when im drifting it doesnt make much difference. People are moaning about the lag but i dont see why because when im drifitng im usually high up in the rev range anyway . I took the liberty of taking a skyline i used for drifting once and put a stage 4 turbo on it (was stock) and it seems that on n2 tyres the car starts spinning its wheels at about 2500 to 3000 rpm so lag isnt really an issue there. I think that is is just a matter of personal preference and some people seem to be really against turbo charging and others are just boost freaks but it also seems that they are stuck in there own ways too much and arnt giving the other methods of air induction a chance.

I say give them all a try, you never know......... you MIGHT just like it!

Just my 2 cents
 
I usually only use turbo when I need the extra boost so I just use stage 1. I don't see a difference. But I think it was the Minolta car, I threw a stage 4 on it and when I hit my last gear at the final revs I was burning out at like... 180 mph.
 
Drifting really isnt about a lot of power, so I usually stick to NA because of the more even torque curves, but I don't really have a strong opinion on either. Occasionally, turbo cars fall out of the power band mid drift, and if the power band is real narrow, downshifting wont always solve the problem.
 
Im a big fan of turbo and I understand that N/A is in someways is better but for me turbo is the way to gooooo.......the only one thing that GT4 doesn't have is a boost control system to mess with....it would b phat if u could control the psi that gets throne into the engine....
 
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Im a big fan of turbo and I understand that N/A is in someways is better but for me turbo is the way to gooooo.......the only one thing that GT4 doesn't have is a boost control system to mess with....it would b phat if u could control the psi that gets throne into the engine....
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True! you could regulate the boost pressure just right, making boost loss

almost non-exsistant,in other words you could tune all the stage turbos

(1-2-3-4) to be more controled at low rpm(like stage 5) which not all cars

have:indiff:, also you could bring the boost pressure down at higher rpm

(reducing spinout during critical angle).This is just one more of the reasons I perfer NA.
 
I have no experience with turbocharged cars in real life, so I have no experience to base this on...

...but isn't there a difference between turbo lag and just having a peaky engine? The Escudo the the Option Z feel more like the engine itself is peaky, not that there is turbo lag. Give the Escudo full throttle from a stop, any gear. The boost gauge will go up, maybe not to max, but close. That shows that there isn't any real lag. But the engine has a really aggressive cam, so once it hits about 5,000RPM the power goes up exponentially. Same thing for the Option. The Option has pretty much no power in the low revs, but it goes from very, very low to 700+. Tune any other 350Z in the game with equal turbo power. They don't lack all of the low end power. They may not have much at like 2,000RPM, but not many cars do. That leads me to think that it is just an extremely aggressive cam in the Option, like the Escudo, and (more mildly) the HPA R32. You get the same "lag" effect with the SST Concept. It is NA, so it obviously has an aggressive cam, like a bunch of NA race cars have.

That is what I think, anyways. What do you guys think? Like I said, no real experience here so I'm basing everything from GT or Forza.
 
I don't think turbo lag is the problem, for most cars it's the peaky powerband.... drifting is much easier with wide torque bands. There's also the matter of response... Some V8s satisfy the criteria above, but they seem to choke and "lag" in the lower rpm ranges, and the redlines' too low...

Personally I don't care if it's NA or low pressure turbo, as long as it delivers.
 
I think that the lag don't influence very much drifting, because gt4 don't simulate lag very well. Laggy turbos have very low torque at low rpm, however, very high performance na cars have the power and the torque close to the redline, but in mid rpm they don't have so much torque. The good of na cars its response to the throttle and the control that is caused by that, the turbo have more power and torque, but don't respond as well as na engines. It is like the d1 grand prix, that you have the na AE86 and the High powered turbo cars like S15, Rx7 and others.
The AE86 can keep up at the turn with the High turbo cars, and sometimes be FASTER, but there are systems to reduce lag.
In conclusion, Turbo or Na engine, have their advantages and disadvantages, and the way to drift with turbo is different from the NA, because in NA you may need to steep hard in the throttle to make the tires slide, but the power of the turbo make that easier, but then you will have to be careful with the throttle.
Personnaly I prefer NA engines to drift because I don't like to have tires spinning too much, making them harder to control them, and... What is better than a high revving engine?
 

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