TVR to build new "Speed 12"

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TVR have said they are building a new supercar over the last few months, but nothing more than that. Though rumours of a new Speed 12 have circulated the TVR fan bases the new specar hasn't had anything specific regarding what it will be, until now. Earlier this month Nikolai Smolenski openly admitted that he's currently planning a new, modern TVR Speed 12. Which is very exiting, especially for a major TVR fan like myself.

The following are taken from a couple of different articles and interviews on the Web.

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/03072006/45/smolenski-s-vision-tvr-0.html
Wednesday 7th June 2006
Nikolai Smolenski isn't quite how I expected him to be. It's not his youth that's the surprise - TVR's sole shareholder is still only 26 - it's the way he wears it. When he bought TVR two years ago, the few pictures that emerged of the young Russian were unflattering. With a mass of unruly straw-coloured hair and a buttoned-up suit, he looked slightly, well, nerdy.

Today, however, he's sporting an army-crop hairstyle and some very sharp casual clothing, as if he's been set upon by Trinny and Susannah. Yet in demeanour he remains slightly shy and modest, in a way that somehow doesn't tally with a man who also runs a private bank with 12,500 employees.

Smolenski isn't here to talk banking, though. In fact it's a stipulation of the interview that we talk only about TVR and Britain as a car-making base, so no personal questions and no photos (he hates photos).

It's an appropriate time to talk TVR, of course, as the company is rumoured to have produced as few as two cars a week during parts of the winter, has laid off a big chunk of its workforce, and will soon depart its traditional home of Bristol Avenue in Blackpool. Should we be worried about the future of Britain's most heroic car brand?

The way Smolenski tells it, it's actually a time for optimism. 'The press has blown-up the factory move out of all proportion,' he insists. 'The thought of moving production out of the UK has crossed my mind, but then I'm always thinking of new possibilities because you have to; it doesn't mean that they will all come to pass.

'If TVRs weren't built over here, how could they then be British cars? Besides, there's nothing wrong with British labour costs, they're fine when you're not mass-producing cars.'

When he gets to the specifics of what new models we might expect from TVR, Smolenski's face radiates passion. 'For the moment we will have to develop variants within the existing range, but we're also working on something wilder. We're developing a V12 engine to power a modernised version of the Speed 12.

I'd like the car to have carbonfibre bodywork for lightness and rigidity, but currently the price is too high due to heavy demand from the aeronautics industry.'


Ambitious plans to move TVR into global markets have accelerated the establishment of proper development processes, with hot-weather testing in Dubai and cold-weather trials in Russia. Work is well underway to make the cars compliant with Euro IV emissions standards and to provide them with the necessary on-board diagnostics (OBD) systems to enable them to be homologated throughout Europe. Investigations are also being made into how to prepare cars for the US market, and there have been enquiries from South East Asia and China to set up distribution networks.

Smolenski realises that there are still quality issues to sort out. He's implemented quality-control systems and replaced underperforming suppliers - moves that have reduced warranty claims to 30 per cent of what they were before he took over.

But even if everything takes off the way he'd like, Smolenski says he'll restrict production to 5000 cars a year to retain exclusivity. He also wants to keep them affordable. 'I want TVRs to be the fastest road cars you can buy, but I don't want you to have to choose between a car and a mortgage.'

Anti-lock brakes and traction control will soon appear on TVRs, and in collaboration with an outside specialist, possibly Ricardo, TVR is developing its own semi-sequential gearbox. 'How many small sports car makers can boast their own engine and gearbox?' asks Smolenski in a rare break from his innate modesty.

Other plans include a loose agreement with Noble to share information on sales, marketing and development, and the establishment of multi-franchise dealerships to enable TVR to have a presence in areas that couldn't support a one-marque operation.

Smolenski becomes particularly animated when outlining his thoughts on a British sports car race championship. 'Imagine TVR, Noble, Morgan, maybe even Lotus, racing together in a series with budgets limited to make it competitive.' And he's keen for TVR to be involved in endurance racing, supporting privateer teams: 'But we'd have to do it properly and be in it to win.'

Smolenski would also like to branch out into powerboats, sees potential for a second British motorbike manufacturer and can imagine TVR engines powering other madly fast vehicles such as jetskis and ATVs.

Before any of that, though, there's the main act to attend to. 'I am willing to work very hard to ensure TVR survives,' states Smolenski, 'but I will not compromise on quality or performance.' Hallelujah to that.

TVR.co.uk
In the wake of TVR's relocation announcements, TVR revealed to Autocar magazine last week its ultimate five-year objectives, and explained what's driving some of the company's most significant recent decisions.

Autocar reported that TVR aims to appeal to a wider audience by eventually creating a clear and cohesive line-up of more accessible models, all of which will be more advanced technologically and will share a house-style front grille and other design cues, but will retain TVR's hallmark uniqueness, impact and uncompromising performance. There will eventually be a coupe, targa, roadster and a 2+2 GT all within a similar price bracket to today's range, but there will also be a new TVR supercar, a concept with which TVR has been experimenting since the 1990s.

But this is all on TVR's more long-term drawing board and is not just around the corner. The company will first relocate to more impressive premises, enabling it to increase and improve its production capabilities still further; this is essential for TVR to break into global markets, and for it to achieve its ambition of increasing output by more than half year-on-year for the next five years.

In the immediate future, however, TVR remains excited about its sensational new models: the Sagaris coupe, the Tuscan targa and Tuscan convertible, which already form a heart-stopping range of exhilarating performance cars like no others, and which have been highly acclaimed by both the press and the public. The imminent British Motor Show will serve as a public platform for some of TVR's latest developments.
 
I'm going to apologise ahead of time for this, but the new Speed 12 news is by far not the most important thing to this American reader.

I'm quite excited to hear that they are still considering comming to the US, and by speaking to companies like Noble for sales and other marketing things, it sounds as though the plan is moving along so that one day I can buy myself a T350C and be a bit different than the other folks around here.

Other than that, I also love the idea of the British Touring Car league that would feature the TVRs, Nobles, Lotus' and Morgans in one series.

Very good news indeed!
 
Very very nice. This I'm looking forward to, a lot. It will probably have to be a lot more practical than the last one, that doesn't mean it will be practical in the same sense as a VW Golf, but I mean not having to have the fuel heated up for half an hour before you turn the key, that sort of thing.

And YSSMAN yep that is also very exciting news, and in the grand scheme of things, far more important than the new Speed 12. So no, you don't have to apologise.
 
Every TVR is crazy, regarding the cars power and race track readyness, I have no doubt it will be as much of a race car (if not more so) than a Ferrari Enzo or Maserati MC12. I do expect it to have traction control and ABS, and I do expect it to have upwards of 800bhp, probably ending up around the 900bhp mark and for it to weigh less than 1200kgs. It will probably take on the face of the next line of TVR's.
 
Excellent news, if TVR can increase theyre reliability a little, and have such creature comforts as ABS, mp3 player, traction control and airbags i'll definetly buy one, one day. Who will need GT3's anymore when you can have a TVR for over less than half the price.
 
Poverty
Excellent news, if TVR can increase theyre reliability a little, and have such creature comforts as ABS, mp3 player, traction control and airbags i'll definetly buy one, one day

And they won't be TVRs.

A TVR with an airbag, antilock brakes and traction control (*spits*) - never mind the current fad of miniaturised audio - is a Nissan 350Z.

TVRs are supposed to be uncomfortable, smell of glue and crash in the rain.
 
Agreed for the most, creature comforts are a no no, MP3 players and 16 disk changers are not what a TVR is about. ABS and traction control that can be turned completley off isn't something that would prevent them from being TVR's, if it couldn't, then it would. TVR are doing what they need to do, opening themselves up to the Porsche buyer. As long as they keep that raw performance and "I'm gonna eat your children" attitude then they'll do fine. If they start introducing sat navs and air conditioning and padded leasther seats ect, then they're losing the plot. ABS and TCS can help a lot on the road, it'll make them drivable at least in the wet, but as long as you can switch it off when you take it to the track, and with a TVR you will, or rather you should, that's where it's most at home.
 
...And thats the way it SHOULD be with most sports cars, IMO. The days have long-past when most automakers could get away with things such as that. I almost bought a '78 Pontiac Firebird for my first car that had niether a radio nor A/C, as it was origionally built for drag and circuit racers to be easy to modify for racing. Wouldn't fly today though, especially with American buyers. Quite frankly, I'm surprised by how well the Elise and Exige have been selling given the lack of their creature comforts, but I believe now that has become a selling point.
 
live4speed
TVR have said they are building a new supercar over the last few months, but nothing more than that. Though rumours of a new Speed 12 have circulated the TVR fan bases the new specar hasn't had anything specific regarding what it will be, until now. Earlier this month Nikolai Smolenski openly admitted that he's currently planning a new, modern TVR Speed 12. Which is very exiting, especially for a major TVR fan like myself.

The following are taken from a couple of different articles and interviews on the Web.
Live you got to remember, something was talked about in Auto Car months ago. But I think TVR building a new Speed 12 will be great, which could see the new Speed 12 racing in LeMans.

Anyway, I reckon the new V12 will have a honeycomb design, like the last Speed 12's V12.
 
The only porsche buyers TVR will be attracting are the GT3-RS ones, mainly those cant afford a GT3-RS easily.

If TVR does want other porsche buyers they will have to increase the creature comforts, and it wouldnt hurt them at all to have airbags and a sound system as a option, and for the hotter markets A/C
 
YSSMAN
Quite frankly, I'm surprised by how well the Elise and Exige have been selling given the lack of their creature comforts, but I believe now that has become a selling point.
You know they have carpets now, right?
Poverty
The only porsche buyers TVR will be attracting are the GT3-RS ones, mainly those cant afford a GT3-RS easily.

If TVR does want other porsche buyers they will have to increase the creature comforts, and it wouldnt hurt them at all to have airbags and a sound system as a option, and for the hotter markets A/C
So basically you want one of the last remaining British (Russian owned, but it's not corporate) sports car manufacturers to abandon they're traditional ideas and become mainstream?

Don't ever enter British industry, please.
 
So basically you want one of the last remaining British (Russian owned, but it's not corporate) sports car manufacturers to abandon they're traditional ideas and become mainstream?

Don't ever enter British industry, please.

Stop being a little kid. There are quite a few non mainstream british car manufacturers, and as things go TVR are one of the more mainstream ones already, just look at theyre car line-up.

All Im saying is if we want TVR to have a secure future, and provide us with top class cars that dont have a repuatation to breaking down, they will need to make a model or models that will have greater mass appeal to rake in that money, just like porsche did with the boxster and cayenne.

Then when TVR are fairly rich and well off, they will have more money for development.

Just imagine if the next gen TVR's flop, for whatever reason (as in economic, not because theyre poo or something) then TVR could go bust.

Maybe its attitudes like yours why the british automotive industry on a whole is a bit, well, poo?
 
Morgans have become more blunt.

Poverty
Stop being a little kid. There are quite a few non mainstream car manufacturers, and as things go TVR are one of the more mainstream ones already, just look at theyre car line-up.

You're just unbelievable, you know that?

I could swear to God you're a Bot designed to annoy, piss off and insult people.

Evan had a valid point which is shared by many. If you don't like or agree to the point he made, then an aggressive style comeback (in which you don't argue your point at all) isn't a good idea, and then perhaps the internet isn't a great place for you to be anyway.
 
ultrabeat
Morgans have become more blunt.



You're just unbelievable, you know that?

I could swear to God you're a Bot designed to annoy, piss off and insult people.

Evan had a valid point which is shared by many. If you don't like or agree to the point he made, then an aggressive style comeback (in which you don't argue your point at all) then perhaps the internet isn't a great place for you to be.
Still on your high horse I see. Maybe he shouldnt say things such as "Don't ever enter British industry, please" which is a rather cheeky and childish thing to say.

I dont think im pissing anyone off, other than those who do not like a opinion thats different to theirs.

And if I didnt argue my point I think you obviously need to read it again and let the information sink in to your brain this time.

Stop trying to go around like your a mod kid.
 
Poverty
Still on your high horse I see.
Seriously, when I said to get over yourself, I meant it. Sometimes I think you don't see how aggressive you are.

Poverty
Maybe he shouldnt say things such as "Don't ever enter British industry, please" which is a rather cheeky and childish thing to say.

It was obviously meant in jest, and if Evan wants to apologise, that's his business.

Poverty
I dont think im pissing anyone off, other than those who do not like a opinion thats different to theirs.

Your opinion is not the problem. It's the way you put it across. You come across as aggressive.

Poverty
And if I didnt argue my point I think you obviously need to read it again and let the information sink in to your brain this time.
Point in case ^^.
In what part of your post did you mention creature comforts such as Air-con, MP3 etc specifically?

Poverty
Stop trying to go around like your a mod kid.

Another point in case. I'm not being mod kid (and by the way, :dunce: ), keeping the board civil is something everyone should be doing. Live with it.

Also, Evan is my friend and I felt you were quick to jump on him when you took something the wrong way (if Evan didn't mean it seriously)
 
Poverty
Stop being a little kid.
I wish, at 16 being a kid again is quite tempting.

There are quite a few non mainstream british car manufacturers, and as things go TVR are one of the more mainstream ones already, just look at theyre car line-up.
Yes TVR are more mainstream than many, but they are not mainstream IMO. E.g. "something that is familiar to the masses"

Yes there are quite a few non-mainstream manufacturers around (Morgan, Noble, Bristol to name a few), but few produce more than a few hundred cars a year.

All Im saying is if we want TVR to have a secure future, and provide us with top class cars that dont have a repuatation to breaking down, they will need to make a model or models that will have greater mass appeal to rake in that money, just like porsche did with the boxster and cayenne.
Increased reliability is something that all manufacturers aim for, generally. TVR already produce a number of models at varying prices. Are you suggesting they produce more cars at different prices or start producing saloons, MPV and 4x4s?

Then when TVR are fairly rich and well off, they will have more money for development.
TVR best chances of increasing revenue is to go the Lotus route. Offer their experience to other companies.

They can then help other comapies develop technology and adapt it to their own uses minus alot of the development costs.

Just imagine if the next gen TVR's flop, for whatever reason (as in economic, not because theyre poo or something) then TVR could go bust.
That's a risk all low volume producers face and is hard to prepare for.

Maybe its attitudes like yours why the british automotive industry on a whole is a bit, well, poo?
British car manufacturers have suffered, not because they failed to abandon traditional views, but because they failed to develop. Classic examples, Rover failed to develop, Lotus developed but remained traditional.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Live you got to remember, something was talked about in Auto Car months ago.
Yeah but that wasn't specific, this is the first time TVR have said it is a new Speed 12, a new Supercar could be anything, it could be Tuscan based, T350 based or a completely new car, but they've actually said it's a new Speed 12.

Evan
British car manufacturers have suffered, not because they failed to abandon traditional views, but because they failed to develop. Classic examples, Rover failed to develop, Lotus developed but remained traditional.
Exactley, and the Elise kept them in business. I've said before, I'm not against ABS and TCS trhat can be switched off, but loads of creature comforts, in a TVR??? No. Padded leather seats, MP3 players and climate control are not what a TVR is about, and they don't have anything to do with the cars reliability or reputation for reliability.
 
Poverty
The only porsche buyers TVR will be attracting are the GT3-RS ones, mainly those cant afford a GT3-RS easily.

If TVR does want other porsche buyers they will have to increase the creature comforts, and it wouldnt hurt them at all to have airbags and a sound system as a option, and for the hotter markets A/C

All TVR's have a sound system fitted as standard, and apart from the Tamora all have either aircon fitted as standard or availiable as an option.

The average TVR interior is actually a well appointed place to be, with a decent stereo, aircon in almost all cases, lots of leather and decent carpets, electric windows, central locking. In other words all the normal comforts you would expect from a car.

What you do not get is ABS, Traction Control, Stability Control or Airbags.

Regards

Scaff
 
Poverty
There are quite a few non mainstream british car manufacturers, and as things go TVR are one of the more mainstream ones already, just look at theyre car line-up.

Mmm, okay.

TVR T350 - 2 seat, coupe/targa. 3.6 litre straight 6, 350hp/1000kg, 0-62mph in 4.2s
TVR Tamora - 2 seat convertible, 3.6 litre straight 6, 350hp/1000kg, 0-62mph in 4.4s
TVR Tuscan II - 2 seat coupe/convertible, 4 litre straight 6, 365hp/1100kg (380hp Tuscan S), 0-62mph in 3.8s
TVR Sagaris - 2 seat coupe, 4 litre straight 6, 380hp/1078kg, 0-62mph in 3.7s

How is that "mainstream" to any degree at all? Ignoring the fact that the cars are all superficially identical, not one of them even approaches "mainstream". They're all low volume, 2-seat sports cars.


Poverty
All Im saying is if we want TVR to have a secure future, and provide us with top class cars that dont have a repuatation to breaking down, they will need to make a model or models that will have greater mass appeal to rake in that money, just like porsche did with the boxster and cayenne.

Wow. How on Earth did Porsche survive with only the 911 for a hundred and eleventy billion years (joined, briefly, by a trio of fairly similar frontie-rears)?

Poverty
Maybe its attitudes like yours why the british automotive industry on a whole is a bit, well, poo?

Or maybe it's because we no longer have a manufacturing industry to make the raw materials for the cars themselves, had a long-standing ethos of striking, the three-day week, had a nationalised car industry (where it doesn't matter how appalling your product is, the taxpayer will still fund it) and have spent the last 30 years copying rather than innovating.

Maybe.
 
Poverty
Stop being a little kid. There are quite a few non mainstream british car manufacturers, and as things go TVR are one of the more mainstream ones already, just look at theyre car line-up.
Since when was 5 to 600 cars a year mainstream? Mainstream I would say, is selling at the very, very least 10000 cars a year.

All Im saying is if we want TVR to have a secure future, and provide us with top class cars that dont have a repuatation to breaking down, they will need to make a model or models that will have greater mass appeal to rake in that money, just like porsche did with the boxster and cayenne.
You know what, in the last 4 months, TVR haven't had a single engine fail that's still under warranty. Thats right, not a single TVR built and sold within the last 3 years had an engine break down in the last 4 months, that's pretty damn good when you think about it. Sure the reliability can still improve and it should, but they're reliability has been iomproving no end in the lastfew years, what hasn't improved enough is the quality of the fit and finish, the trim and such isn't as fitted as well as it should be.

Then when TVR are fairly rich and well off, they will have more money for development.
They'll never be a rich comapny, they have already said that they don't weant to become mainstream and they want to remain exclusive. Nikolais target is to reach a peak of 5000 units per year and to keep it there. Even then TVR will be a long way from becoming mainstream, and most of thoes extra units being made will be being shipped and sold overseas.

Just imagine if the next gen TVR's flop, for whatever reason (as in economic, not because theyre poo or something) then TVR could go bust.
They could, but so could Lotus, so could Marcos, so could Noble ect. The bottom line is though, TVR is well and truley on the up, the interest in TVR's models in the last month alone has been higher than it ever has been before.

Maybe its attitudes like yours why the british automotive industry on a whole is a bit, well, poo?
Or maybe it's because of the reasons Famine stated.
 
live4speed
Since when was 5 to 600 cars a year mainstream? Mainstream I would say, is selling at the very, very least 10000 cars a year.
Woah, everyone is jumping on Poverty's back. I believe he meant that the amount of models they offer makes it more of a mainstream car maker than, say, Morgan, who offers 2; or Marcos and Bristol that offer 1.
Also, on the airbag route: If TVR wants a chance to sell cars in the U.S., they will have to have airbags. Plain and simple, because I don't think TVR will want to take advantage of the "Kit Car" loophole the Nobla has beeen using.
 
All TVR's have a sound system fitted as standard, and apart from the Tamora all have either aircon fitted as standard or availiable as an option.

The average TVR interior is actually a well appointed place to be, with a decent stereo, aircon in almost all cases, lots of leather and decent carpets, electric windows, central locking. In other words all the normal comforts you would expect from a car.

What you do not get is ABS, Traction Control, Stability Control or Airbags.

Well I think that optional ABS, Traction control and airbags should be optional, and I think we will definetly see that in the future.

How is that "mainstream" to any degree at all? Ignoring the fact that the cars are all superficially identical, not one of them even approaches "mainstream". They're all low volume, 2-seat sports cars.

Is porsche mainstream? Ferrari? Lamborghini? If TVR werent looking to make alot more sales they wouldnt have 4 different models.

Wow. How on Earth did Porsche survive with only the 911 for a hundred and eleventy billion years (joined, briefly, by a trio of fairly similar frontie-rears)?

Porsche could/would have gone bust if it wasnt for the boxster. They dont deny that.

Or maybe it's because we no longer have a manufacturing industry to make the raw materials for the cars themselves, had a long-standing ethos of striking, the three-day week, had a nationalised car industry (where it doesn't matter how appalling your product is, the taxpayer will still fund it) and have spent the last 30 years copying rather than innovating.

AKA the british car industry is a bit poo. Tell me how do the germans manage? Its alot more expensive to build cars over there.

Since when was 5 to 600 cars a year mainstream? Mainstream I would say, is selling at the very, very least 10000 cars a year.

Shall we say theyre commercial then, going by their lineup?

You know what, in the last 4 months, TVR haven't had a single engine fail that's still under warranty. Thats right, not a single TVR built and sold within the last 3 years had an engine break down in the last 4 months, that's pretty damn good when you think about it. Sure the reliability can still improve and it should, but they're reliability has been iomproving no end in the lastfew years, what hasn't improved enough is the quality of the fit and finish, the trim and such isn't as fitted as well as it should be.

If TVR had more money, they could spend more time devoloping theyre cars and improving them all round, instead of letting the customers being theyre guinea pigs.

They'll never be a rich comapny, they have already said that they don't weant to become mainstream and they want to remain exclusive. Nikolais target is to reach a peak of 5000 units per year and to keep it there. Even then TVR will be a long way from becoming mainstream, and most of thoes extra units being made will be being shipped and sold overseas.

Is the russian owner a real car enthusiast? What cars does he own? Does he like going on track days? I think TVR should aim for 15k a year, or whatever number 911's porsche sells. Im more likely to see Ferrari's porsches and lambos than a TVR which saddens me. I would like to see alot more TVR's on our roads.

They could, but so could Lotus, so could Marcos, so could Noble ect. The bottom line is though, TVR is well and truley on the up, the interest in TVR's models in the last month alone has been higher than it ever has been before.
Lets hope the cerbera knocks the breath out of us, because most car enthusiasts Ive talked to miss that TVR sincerly.

Woah, everyone is jumping on Poverty's back. I believe he meant that the amount of models they offer makes it more of a mainstream car maker than, say, Morgan, who offers 2; or Marcos and Bristol that offer 1.

This is exactly what I meant 👍

Increased reliability is something that all manufacturers aim for, generally. TVR already produce a number of models at varying prices.Are you suggesting they produce more cars at different prices or start producing saloons, MPV and 4x4s?

No what Im saying is that TVR should make options available so theyre cars are more everyday friendly, for people like me and thousands others, and hence make more sales. If I wanted a purely track car I would buy a S/C atom.

TVR best chances of increasing revenue is to go the Lotus route. Offer their experience to other companies.

They can then help other comapies develop technology and adapt it to their own uses minus alot of the development costs.
I doubt that would ever happen, untill TVR became a class leader in some part of automotive engineer. Porsche, Lotus and cosworth do what you propose successfully, but they have a excellent motorsport record. TVR's reliability issues alone would put huge companies that contract the likes of Lotus off.

British car manufacturers have suffered, not because they failed to abandon traditional views, but because they failed to develop. Classic examples, Rover failed to develop, Lotus developed but remained traditional.

Doesnt lotus offer airbags, a/c, electric windows, abs and a nice soundsytem?
 
Poverty
Is the russian owner a real car enthusiast? What cars does he own? Does he like going on track days?
Like most Russian Tycoons he's a pretty private man. Though he is supposedly a car enthusiast yes.
I think TVR should aim for 15k a year, or whatever number 911's porsche sells. Im more likely to see Ferrari's porsches and lambos than a TVR which saddens me. I would like to see alot more TVR's on our roads.
Do you know how hard it is to build up a large enough customer base to produce 15,000 cars a year? Not only that, but the manufacturing process is much more complicated, the retail side is more complicated and export is essential, especially to America.

Did you take a Technology subject in school?

No what Im saying is that TVR should make options available so theyre cars are more everyday friendly, for people like me and thousands others, and hence make more sales. If I wanted a purely track car I would buy a S/C atom.
But the Atom doesn't have a roof (or sides, or windscreen or much of any bodywork really) and is quite unbearable on normal road, especially the motorway (Read this month evo).

I doubt that would ever happen, untill TVR became a class leader in some part of automotive engineer. Porsche, Lotus and cosworth do what you propose successfully, but they have a excellent motorsport record. TVR's reliability issues alone would put huge companies that contract the likes of Lotus off.
TVR make their own engines. That is their speciality. By helping a larger company develop an engine they would have much better testing facillities and funding on their side.
Doesnt lotus offer airbags, a/c, electric windows, abs and a nice soundsytem?
Yes, but the cars are still light and just about all of that is part of an options list.

2 Great examples....
As part of the touring pack you get um... Noise Insulation panelling... But even better, in the Super touring pack you get a cup holder! A fricking cup holder!
 
I have a feeling the bloke who designed the handling for the Sagaris, will work on the new Speed 12's handling. But I reckon the new Speed 12 could be called:

Speed 12 Mk2.
 
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