Typical V10 and V12

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Same question for both cars. I know theres a typical exhaust note for V8 cars meaning you know what it is when you hear it, but i heard an Audi R8 V10 the other day and i was thinking what does a typical V10 sound like? Had i not know what that car was i wouldn't have had any idea what it was. Is there a typical exhaust note for these two types of engines?
 
Considering in the entirety of ever there have only been like 5 different V10 engines (not counting variations), there really isn't enough to determine a "typical" sound.
 
Toronado
Considering in the entirety of ever there have only been like 5 different V10 engines (not counting variations), there really isn't enough to determine a "typical" sound.
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Hmm thanks for that response ill be doing some research on those different engines.
 
4 cylinder, 8 cylinder, and 16 cylinder engine sound alike, if they have similar firing orders.
Basically there are two types of 'sounds' here. The 'cross plane' sound (typical of American V8s) and the 'flat plane' sound (typical of Italian or racing V8s)

Most will quickly say, no 4 cylinder sounds like a V8! But really, a Honda Vtec sounds extremely similar to a Ferrari V8, and a cross plane 4 cylinder will sound like a Nascar racer. Don't believe me, watch this:


Then the V16:


5 cylinder and 10 cylinder engines sound alike, as above

Typical noise, all fairly consistant:






3 cylinder, 6 cylinder, and 12 cylinder engines sound alike, as above







Now obviously, this is speaking very generally, and you can tell them apart. But there is a commonality between engines with similar 'factors of cylinders.' The tone is similar.

Also, exhaust systems can change the sound entirely. The Kreisseg systems make V10 engines sound closer to V12s to my ears.
 
I'll save you some time:


Dodge LA V10. Dodge Magnum 5.9 + Two Cylinders.
Ford Modular V10. 5.4L Modular + Two Cylinders.
Porsche V10.
Lamborghini V10.
Audi V10. Audi 4.2 FSI V8 + Two Cylinders. Not the same engine as in the original Gallardo 5.0L V10, but the current Gallardo basically just uses this engine.
BMW S85B50.
Lexus 1LR-GUE.
 
Thanks for the links Eunos ill watch the videos when im on a computer and not in transit. I've always thought Flat plane Ferrari engines sounded too much like 4 cylinder cars. But when i heard the Carrera GT and the Aston Martin LMP they sounded similar but with a difference of 2 cylinders.
 
Toronado
I'll save you some time:

Dodge V10. Dodge Magnum 5.9 + Two Cylinders.
Ford V10. 5.4L Modular + Two Cylinders.
Lamborghini V10.
Audi V10. Audi 4.2 FSI V8 + Two Cylinders. Not the same engine as in the original Gallardo 5.0L V10, but the current Gallardo basically just uses this engine.
BMW V10.
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Thanks again Toronado but what about the Carrera GT's V10? That was a race engine used for the supercar. Or were you not counting the race derived engines?
 
200MphFord
Thanks for the links Eunos ill watch the videos when im on a computer and not in transit. I've always thought Flat plane Ferrari engines sounded too much like 4 cylinder cars. But when i heard the Carrera GT and the Aston Martin LMP they sounded similar but with a difference of 2 cylinders.
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When the engines are turning such high RPMs (like the Aston and Porsche) the sounds begin to become similar. Formula 1 V8's, V12's, and V10's would sound identical to an unfamiliar ear.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
When the engines are turning such high RPMs (like the Aston and Porsche) the sounds begin to become similar. Formula 1 V8's, V12's, and V10's would sound identical to an unfamiliar ear.
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Well yes i have to admit im not the most adept at listening to the differences but i do know they're there. I'm more used to telling the differences in V8's and the like.
 
Toronado
Dodge LA V10. Dodge Magnum 5.9 + Two Cylinders.
Ford Modular V10. 5.4L Modular + Two Cylinders.
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I've never been able to put my finger on the sound a Viper makes. What a weird noise. Sounds mighty powerful though, and it is.

As for the Ford, a coworker of mine owns one. Damn thing sounds more like a Gallardo than a Gallardo does.
 
Lol, I strongly doubt that. The 5.2 V10 used in the R8 & LP560-4 emits a pretty unique sound to those cars just like the Carrera GT & Viper's V10s.
 
You can do that with many cars to make them sound very different, though. I'm referring to stock for stock.
 
McLaren
You can do that with many cars to make them sound very different, though. I'm referring to stock for stock.
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Stock doesn't really give you the characteristics of the fundamental layout of the engine, which is what I believe the original poster was asking about.

For instance, the 350z sounds absolutely *strange* stock, because of the exhaust configuration installed by the factory. With an x-pipe, they lose that hollow nothingness and start to sound like a proper V6.
 
McLaren
Lol, I strongly doubt that. The 5.2 V10 used in the R8 & LP560-4 emits a pretty unique sound to those cars just like the Carrera GT & Viper's V10s.
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I know, that's what I mean. He said he's got a hole in the muffler but the truck sounds hamazing. Very different from Dodge's mill. I can't really describe it because all V10s sound weird anyway, all I know is a truck was the last car I expected to see come around the corner. :lol:
 
I gotta say tha straight pipe V10 Gallardo gave me shivers i really enjoyed that sound. Now i understand the nature of the V10, i've been reading they arent the best balanced engines and it would make sense that they would have different firing orders and exhaust notes. I'd love to see a video of one of each of them without a tuned exhaust like the Gallardo video. Maybe get the R8, Viper, Ford F Series V10, and all others together for a sound compilation. Now V12's have been praised as the best balanced engines along with V8's and Enzo Ferrari said they were his favorite engines. It makes sense that they all dont have a typical exhaist note but seeing as there are so many different V12's out there it wouldn't make much sense trying to compare them all.
 
V8's are not very well balanced; the 90* V8's have huge counterbalances on the crankshaft, and the flat-plane engines are pretty rough.

V12s, I6s, and Wankel rotaries are typically thought of us being the best balanced and smoothest.
 
Keef
I've never been able to put my finger on the sound a Viper makes. What a weird noise. Sounds mighty powerful though, and it is.
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I'd say its like a cross between an old John Deere and a 426 Hemi. Nice and lumpy, but with a bit of a dog-leg awkwardness. Nevetheless, a nice individual sound that sounds more pleasing than most other V10s.


Now, if you really want to be a master, you have to learn how to differentiate the brands based on sound.
 

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