Tyre Sounds, not volume

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Enough has been said about tyres should get a separate channel & volume control, this is concerning when the sounds occur.
I don't drive fast in RL anymore but to my foggy memory.

1) Squeal starts way to early, I can still continue putting on power when they start squealing rather than thinking I am approaching the limit.
If its supposed to be a game aid warning you it doesn't work, should start later.

2) When the tyres actually let go or regain grip it is often accompanied by a little "chirrup" sound, GT sort of does sometimes when regaining grip.

3) When they are right on the limit tyres do often become noisy, however once they have let go the sound diminishes & changes to more of a scratching, skating across ice sound unless they are locked up.

There are some good tyre sounds in the game, the ones that happen less often like when you get wheel tramp that tell me whats happening but the general sounds seem wrong.

It does vary depending on the tyre, road surface & temperature but GT tarmac seems super noisy to me.
I would say generally tyres make the most noise when they are right on the limit & about to let go, this would be a helpful driving aid.
Of course sometimes in RL they don't actually warn with sound its more a feel & for sure some tyres give much more feedback than others.

From memory I would say GT assumes higher than average grip tarmac on a hot day with hot tyres for its sound model as this is when I seem to remember tyres squeal the most.
Comfort type tyres (harder compounds) I think are more prone to start squealing early than gripier ones though this is generalising.
 
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I think the tyre squeal has been configure to act as an audio aid, to indicate tyre behaviour, rather than for outright realism.
 
Is tire spelt tyre in other countries??? I see it spelt like that alot on these forums..in english tyre is incorrect.
 
Is tire spelt tyre in other countries??? I see it spelt like that alot on these forums..in english tyre is incorrect.

The good old USA just has to be different

You use tires for driving on the pavement which we walk on, we tend to use our tyres on the road unless we feel the urge to see the general public scatter.
 
Is tire spelt tyre in other countries??? I see it spelt like that alot on these forums..in english tyre is incorrect.
In real English, "tire" relates to fatigue. "Tyre" is the rubber bit of the vehicle that makes contact with the ground.
 
I've found some of my poorer configurations squeal quite readily. Those which are far closer to a ride my grandmother could operate like a banshee get very quiet indeed - until it's time to warn things are going to become... interesting. Still, improvements in sound realism are totally welcome.
 
I've found some of my poorer configurations squeal quite readily. Those which are far closer to a ride my grandmother could operate like a banshee get very quiet indeed - until it's time to warn things are going to become... interesting. Still, improvements in sound realism are totally welcome.
I've found some of my poorer configurations squeal quite readily. Those which are far closer to a ride my grandmother could operate like a banshee get very quiet indeed - until it's time to warn things are going to become... interesting. Still, improvements in sound realism are totally welcome.

Hmmm the bad news is you may have a point, if that's true many stock cars to do not perform as well as they should due to poor setups.
Not surprising I suppose with older ones if Polyphony did not bother to adjust them to account for the new physics.
 
Is tire spelt tyre in other countries??? I see it spelt like that alot on these forums..in english tyre is incorrect.

1st of all, thanks for continuing the american stereotype that we are all ignorant to the fact that there are other countries and ways of doing things.

2nd, if you're going to correct someone on spelling, you should probably also know how to spell. the past tense of "spell" is "spelled". "spelt" is a plant.
 
1st of all, thanks for continuing the american stereotype that we are all ignorant to the fact that there are other countries and ways of doing things.

2nd, if you're going to correct someone on spelling, you should probably also know how to spell. the past tense of "spell" is "spelled". "spelt" is a plant.

This was physically painful to read, literally the very next sentence after talking down to someone for doing something you do the exact same thing :lol:
 
As my fellow Irishman, George Bernard Shaw, once said: 'England and America are two countries divided by a common language'

:)

And that's before we get onto boot/trunk/hood/bonnet/manifold/header/discs/rotors nonclemature.

At the risk of veering back OT, while I've never really tried to compare how close the tyres sound, in
GT6, it's a lot more useful than before.
 
DNW
In real English, "tire" relates to fatigue. "Tyre" is the rubber bit of the vehicle that makes contact with the ground.

American English, and English English are two separate tacos. Neither is more "Real" than the other.. For instance a Bonnet goes on the head of a baby, and a Lorry is a fat woman I went too high-school with. A Boot is something that you put your foot in. The list goes on.


Also for the English out there, Ive got a question... Whats the heck is a Quid?
 
American English, and English English are two separate tacos. Neither is more "Real" than the other.. For instance a Bonnet goes on the head of a baby, and a Lorry is a fat woman I went too high-school with. A Boot is something that you put your foot in. The list goes on.


Also for the English out there, Ive got a question... Whats the heck is a Quid?
A quid is usually used as a replacement for 'Pound' (as in money, not weight).
 
1st of all, thanks for continuing the american stereotype that we are all ignorant to the fact that there are other countries and ways of doing things.

2nd, if you're going to correct someone on spelling, you should probably also know how to spell. the past tense of "spell" is "spelled". "spelt" is a plant.
1st. Wasn't trying to correct anyone, if anyone myself. I see tyre alot and I was just curious because I thought it was tire.

2nd. Thanks to everyone else for clearing this up without being a dou... Unlike pvtlapdance
 
1st. Wasn't trying to correct anyone, if anyone myself. I see tyre alot and I was just curious because I thought it was tire.

2nd. Thanks to everyone else for clearing this up without being a dou... Unlike pvtlapdance
I have to remind myself, that alot of people here are American, when I get annoyed by constantly reading 'tire'.
 
I have to remind myself, that alot of people here are American, when I get annoyed by constantly reading 'tire'.
Dude, you have the least to worry about... I live in the south (it's not like what you think though) and try on very essay to use proper, Middle English and yet I get discredited on tests and what not... Tones/tons .. And anything else already mentioned..
 
I'm fully aware that tyre is the 'correct' spelling (and believe it should be ;)), but tend to use tire on the forums and online as most people I play with are American and Canadian. I'll stick to tyre for the purpose of this thread though.

As for steering this thread somewhat back on to topic (no pun intended), tyre squeel depends a lot on the tyres themselves, including the compund and I believe the grooves as well.

A couple of years ago, I made the mistake of getting my car MOT'd/serviced at a small garage in the little town where my mum lives. It was at that time when the car needed a few things; new tyres, new brake pads, new filters etc.

The garage decided that the tyres they had were an adequate replacement for the Michelins that I had fitted. I hadn't looked at the tyres they had actually fitted until a couple of days later, when I went to check the tyre pressure as something didn't feel right. Turns out they fitted a brand that I had never heard of before, nor had Google really, it only came up with 3-4 search results of other people asking who the tyre company were and reporting that they seemed deadly.

To the point, the Michelins would squeel quite early, the sound was progressive, plus you could push them much, much harder than when the tyre screeching became audible. There's a roundabout near my home that I always used to have fun with on the way home from work (early am hours, no traffic). The Michelins would begin squarking at around 40mph, and gradually got louder, with the car still being stable at 50mph.

In comparison, these unknown, turns out to be Korean budget tyres, would only make a quiet, deep sound just as the car was letting go, there was no audible build up whatsoever to when they were at their max, which was around 40mph on the same roundabout. So not only were they awful at handling, especially in the wet - God damn they were dangerous - but they wouldn't let you know when they were about to go either until it was happening.
 
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