Tyre traction on glass/sand

[arseneH]

1. Do you think "Sport" tyre should have more grip than "Racing soft" on glass and sand?
(because I think sport tyre has tracks, which should grip better on glass and sand)

2. Do you think GT5 can reflect this correctly?

 

[jimipitbull]

1. no

2. dirt and/or snow tyres

 

[Spagetti69]

I would think a slick on glass would be the best.
Bigger contact patch. (I'm assuming you mean sheet glass).

Odd question but that's my theory.

 

[popcorn]

Why on earth would you be racing on glass in the first place?

 

[Huks]

I think he means grass. It wouldn't really make sense any other way.

 

[Spagetti69]

I think he means grass. It wouldn't really make sense any other way.

I could understand a spelling mistake. However in the thread title as well?

 

[Third Reign]

Edited: Some guys can't take a joke on commonly known pronunciation error of a certain demographic region...

 

[Slash]

That will get you banned.

 

[DeadEnd]

And rightly so.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

The paint used on many circuits for "Pit Lines" etc. are painted on with paints, obviously. However, inside those paints are little tiny "shards" of glass. Though they're grinded down, so as not to be sharp, they can still cause a loss of traction.


It's actually designed like that, (the paints) to be reflective during the night. Especially the yellow lines in the middle of two lane roads (ex. Toscana tarmac, or Mt. Aso tarmac.) Therefore, his post does make complete sense.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Whichever tyre is capable of getting the largest area of rubber in contact with the ground, for a hard flat surface you would want a slick tyre but for grass/sand you would want something with grooves in. I wouldn't be surprised if in GT5 the racing tyre has more grip than a sports tyre in all conditions though.

 

[aadil717]

I could understand a spelling mistake. However in the thread title as well?

It's probably not his/her first language and he's/she's just typing it as one would say the word - probably.

I think we should treat the question in regards to grass because I don't know any track in GT5 that you drive in glass - or even in real life.

 

[deadcell96]

Obviously because he's asian...

Isn't it the other way around?

 

[NFSCARBON1]

Not sure if this is on or off topic, but isn't ground glass added to race circuit tarmac to ADD grip?

 

[arseneH]

I mean once you accidentally drove or hit by other opponent into the glass/sand (run off area), which tyre could make you back to the track fastest?

I mean normal racing, not rallying

 

[niky]

It's grass.

Technically, a Rally tire would... As that has a racing compound matched to deep tread... and often studs. That's on grass.

On glass, a slick would give you the most grip, as long as the glass is dry.

 

[NjLowrider]

Your all smokin glass...

 

[GTP_Monkey]

PMSL cant believe you lot LOL, As niky says the guy means grass.

 

[Spagetti69]

Be nice for the OP to respond.

Posts a question and buggers off.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I mean once you accidentally drove or hit by other opponent into the glass/sand (run off area), which tyre could make you back to the track fastest?

I mean normal racing, not rallying

Be nice for the OP to respond.

Posts a question and buggers off.

He did respond. He continues to mention "glass."

 

[Spagetti69]

Oops my mistake. Sorry OP.

So which is it lol.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Hmmm, that's a good idea. Let's be direct, in the question, in case he's using a translator:



Do you want to say "glass" or "grass" in your question, original poster?


Glass is a generally invisible medium, generally used to seal a house, home or car.


Grass is a plant, which grows in dirt, and reaches, generally, between a few centimeters to a meter off the ground.

 

[arseneH]

Sorry guys for the typo, it should be "grass" instead!

 

[IceMan PJN]

I wouldn't be surprised if in GT5 the racing tyre has more grip than a sports tyre in all conditions though.

Unless they fixed it in a patch, slicks gripped better in rain, which is horribly wrong and made the game's wet tires obsolete. If they got that wrong, I wouldn't expect them to get grass right, but I can't recall for sure.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Unless they fixed it in a patch, slicks gripped better in rain, which is horribly wrong and made the game's wet tires obsolete. If they got that wrong, I wouldn't expect them to get grass right, but I can't recall for sure.

Driving with slicks in the rain... I've found it overly challenging since December 2011. I don't think that's recent. Certainly, it's now much faster to run intermediates/full wets. Actually, in the Rolex Series Season One, I lost the championship because I switched to softs too quickly, and the track dried out very slowly, and everyone else stayed on intermediates. I still managed third, but I was in a very comfortable second before I made that mistake.

 

[BJBEOSmitty]

The track paint comment is spot on. A few Indy 500's ago (don't remember which, I've been to 20+ of them) a large number of drivers were making loud complaints about the single stripe on the inside of turns 1 and 3. These were more treacherous than the same stripe in turns 2 and 4 due to the increased speed entering 1 and 3 after the long straight.

If you got your left side tires, specifically front left, on the stripe, youhe experienced a loss of traction. Haven't heard about it again or since however... Probably a paint change after resurfacing.


Turn one, a little before the entrance, but as good a close up of the track surface as you will find.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

The track paint comment is spot on. A few Indy 500's ago (don't remember which, I've been to 20+ of them) a large number of drivers were making loud complaints about the single stripe on the inside of turns 1 and 3. These were more treacherous than the same stripe in turns 2 and 4 due to the increased speed entering 1 and 3 after the long straight.

If you got your left side tires, specifically front left, on the stripe, youhe experienced a loss of traction. Haven't heard about it again or since however... Probably a paint change after resurfacing.


Turn one, a little before the entrance, but as good a close up of the track surface as you will find.

Nice photo.



If I may summarize this thread: you're best to avoid touching painted lines, grass, dirt, and (perhaps) snow. Anything that gets between the tire and asphalt is a negative effect on tire grip.

 

[BJBEOSmitty]

Nice photo.

The photo must be a few years old at least... The track surface does not have as well defined "lines" or grooves in it now. A few hours before the 500, fans have access to the track and can take photos very near the spot this photo is taken. Not far past the start finish line but before turn 1.

We wander out there each year, usually with some of those who are with us who have never been to the race before. It's a great photo op.

The track was MUCH smoother than the above on each of the last several years I've been out there.