>>> UK General Election - Who got your vote?

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Who will get your vote?

  • Labour

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 11 36.7%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • Respect

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Veritas

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • BNP

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • DUP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

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With the UK General Election looming, who will be getting your vote? Use the poll to register your GTPlanet poll vote.... You don't have to tell us why, but you can if you want... happy voting!
 
You put the BNP in the list? Well I suppose they are a party.

I'm going to vote, but i'm going to need some thinkin first.
 
Green Party. Because I like to party green.


Sorry me, I'm just bored.
 
Labour for me. You should have made it a public poll.
 
I deliberately made it a private poll, just like the real thing, but you can make your votes public by posting in this thread... I must admit, I'm in a tricky situation... I live in Bethnal Green and Bow, where it's a real four-way fight between the 'Big Three' and Respect, as Gorgeous George (Galloway) is standing as an anti-war candidate... I have voted Labour in the past (I actually voted for Galloway when he was my MP back in Glasgow)...

I had to put the BNP in there, despite the fact that they are really just a bunch of racist thugs, but unfortunately they are standing in more seats than ever before. :yuck: Also, Veritas are a bit of a joke, but Kilroy-Silk is a pretty persistant man, and he is standing as far as I know :lol:
 
Vote? UK?

Being an apathetic American, I know not of these words.

On a serious note, anyone wanna describe the different platforms some of the major parties are running?
 
I hate voting. Whichever party I choose I know that there not going to keep there promises. I don't think I'll bother.
 
Check this out....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/issues/html/grid.stm?s1=CON_UK&s2=LAB_UK&s3=LD_UK&x=9&y=11

Labour, and leader Tony Blair, have been in power since 1997, and are a left-of-centre party based upon the principles of socialism... widely credited with rebuilding the economy after 18 years of Conservative government, they have a huge majority in Parliament at the present time, but the war in Iraq has seriously tarnished Blair and Labour's image and has left many people looking to vote for someone else... A huge amount of people, as well as the Liberal Democrats, opposed the war, even before the whole 'WMD' case for war was shown to be false.

Realistically, the Conservatives are the only party likely to beat Labour. They are more right-wing, and have a more capitalist approach i.e believe in privatisation of services etc.. This time around they are focusing their efforts on controlling asylum and immigration. Although, the Conservatives also supported the war in Iraq, so many people who are traditionally Labour voters but are protesting against the war, are expected to vote Liberal Democrat rather than Conservative...

For much more info though, look at the BBC website I've linked to above...
 
Do Plaid Cymru even campaign outside of Wales?

I can't vote, but if I could, I'd vote...Lib Dems.

[P.S] If the green party ever got elected, how would they govern anything that wasn't environmental?
 
What I posted elsewhere, in response to "I'm voting Labour, I have no reason not to."

Bear in mind that the wages plucked out of the air are actually national averages for that year.


Famine
Which is better? Earning £17,500 a year, in the 20/25% tax bands, with 5% NI, 15% VAT, £500 Poll Tax and 50% tax on fuel or earning £19,000 a year in the 10/22% tax bands, with 6% NI, 17.5% VAT, £1000 Council Tax and 75% tax on fuel? Oh, and don't forget the lack of mortgage relief, married couples' allowance, the abolition of student grants (if you have kids of university age) and so on.

Maybe you have more of an income in a purely superficial numerical form, but you have less spending power as a result of increases in taxation.


NI has gone up 1%. Our £17,500 a year, 1995 man is paying £875 in NI. Our £19,000 a year, 2005 man is paying £1,140 a year in NI.

1995 - £17,500 gross. -£875 NI. -£600 @ 20%. -£3,625 @ 25% = £12,400. Take-home pcm = £1,033.33 net.
2005 - £19,000 gross. -£1,140 NI. -£202 @ 10%. -£2,691.7 @ 22% = £14,966.3. Take-home pcm = £1,247.19 net.

10 years ago, petrol was, roughly 69.9p/litre. This morning I filled up at 83.9 (and I hear the average is 86.5). Say I drive 7,000 miles a year at a rough average of 30mpg - that's about 1,084 litres of petrol required annually. This costs me £909 a year now but would have cost £757 a year a decade ago. I have to work an extra two days a year (assuming the £17,500 example above) to do my driving.

1995-man - £1,033.33pcm net - £63.08 petrol = £970.25pcm
2005-man - £1,247.19pcm net - £75.75 petrol = £1,171.44pcm

Now, let's hack out the Poll Tax/Council Tax...

1995-man - £41.66pcm = £928.59pcm
2005-man - £83.32pcm = £1,088.12pcm


So, the 2005-man is earning just £160 a month more - about 15% - than his 1995-man counterpart net, after major expenses. But guess what? He earns about 15% more than him gross anyway. And with 2.5% more VAT, applied to more things than a decade ago, his money gives him less spending power than the "poorer" man a decade ago. Let's not forget also that this doesn't take into account the inflation over the past decade which makes the 2005-man even poorer, comparatively.


"What about the unemployed?" I hear. "3 million under Major, 1.1 million under Blair!".

Yep, Blair et al. have proven very good at fudging figures. Have more than £5,000 in savings? Well, you can't claim unemployment benefit. We'll pay your stamp for you, for 12 weeks. If you haven't found a job by then, we'll retrain you with a valuable HNC from the local college, ignoring the fact that you need money every week just to eat.

If you don't have a claim for unemployment benefit and aren't on "Jobseeker's Allowance" for the 12 weeks you're allowed it, you aren't counted in the figures. Remember the story earlier this week? There's 1.1 million people classed as "NEETs" ("Not in Education, Employed or Training"). These people do not appear on jobless lists, so that's an instant doubling of the 1.1 million unemployed figure. And that's just the start.


What possible reason could you have for not voting Labour? The fact you're getting ripped off for zero tangible benefit. Although it's hard to prove it with numbers, every service which we rely upon government funding for (but shouldn't - that's a different story) has got markedly worse in the last decade - hospitals, police, fire services, roads, transport infrastructure and so on. I'll tell you what HAS increased though - from £34,085 in 1996 to £55,118 in 2002 (with an unlimited travel allowance - one claimed £36,000). MP's salaries. In fact, the AVERAGE claimed by MPs in the UK including travel and stationary expenses PER YEAR is a staggering £175,922. I'll remind you that there's 659 MPs, meaning that the basic salary allowance for Westminster has increased by £13.9 MILLION in the last decade, with the average allowance for MPs stands at a truely awesome ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN MILLION POUNDS a year.

Just take a second to mull that figure over. Mr. Average is able to buy less things for himself since Labour arose, but MPs have taken £13.9 million a year increase in salary since the last election and £116 million a year in allowances.




You have "absolutely no reason not to" vote Labour?
 
Those seem like lots of reasons not to.
 
Some read that as a pro-Tory post, but it isn't. There is absolutely no reason to suggest that the Tories will be ANY better (or any worse), merely that Labour are shocking.
 
If you assume that Y1995 was a Conservative government and Y2005 is New-Labour. People would probably assume omg, less tax in 1995 Tory = Better.

I knew all that Job Seekers allowance (thought it was called the dole) was a big crock as well.
 
Lib Dems, if i could
 
My God you guys have a ton of parties!
 
But it's only Labour and Conservatives that compete. The lib Dems suppsedly do and teh rest are just trying for seats let alone control.
 
Lib dem, If i could vote, despite your ardent anti-labour rant Famine i rave not changed my mind. The effects of conservative government are still being felt to this day, across the dilapidated (but vastly improving with new labour money) areas of Nosley and Kirkby to a secondry school in my are which hasnt updated computers since 1995 and have only floppy drives, the effects of a Thatcherite government are ones which will take considerably money to forget.

Oh and Lib dem not labour because of the war and Tony's blatent lying.
 
Has anyone noticed that this poll closes on may 11th? Why the strange date - 6 days AFTER the election :confused:
 
Lib Dem if I could.

Micheal howard = Fagg*t
Tony = Liar
 
jreay21
Has anyone noticed that this poll closes on may 11th? Why the strange date - 6 days AFTER the election :confused:

Don't ask me... :sly: :dunce:
 
Some guy posted a BNP leaflet through the door and I chased him down the street with a stick. :dopey:

Did anyone see the footage of RKS on Have I Got News For You on Friday night? He was doing a bit to camera and some guy squirted a bottle of water all over him before running off. :lol:
 
911_Carrera
Some guy posted a BNP leaflet through the door and I chased him down the street with a stick. :dopey:

Did anyone see the footage of RKS on Have I Got News For You on Friday night? He was doing a bit to camera and some guy squirted a bottle of water all over him before running off. :lol:

:lol: Nice one...! The BNP would get very short shrift on my doorstep too... We had none other than 'Gorgeous' George Galloway round our way the other day... lovely tan he has... could even give RKS a run for his money... I

BlazinXtreme
My God you guys have a ton of parties!

So that's why I'm always hungover... :sly:
 
*prepares for flaming*

I'm almost ashamed of it, but I voted for the BNP because....

Despite what everyone thinks, the BNP are NOT racist. If you want to see a racist party, take a look at the national front, :yuck:

Mr Howard is a pratt. (his real name incidentally is Micheal Echt.)

Tony Bliar is facking useless.

Mr Kennedy wants to abolish cars, and let more immigrants into the country. (there's already over half a million here, and that's just the ones we know about)

And UKIP just don't have a clue.

And lets not forget that it was an illegal immigrant who was sentenced to 22 years recently for stabbing 3 police officers (one later died) and creating biological weapons. (they found evidence of Cyanide, and various other chemicals).

It's also recently came to light that Mr Bliar actually went to war illegaly, according to a leaked document.
 
I'm feeling easy-going so I'm not gonna flame but I'm just curious as to whether you saw the BBC documentary done by a journalist who got into BNP ranks and proved that there is a large amount of racism running in the background of the party?
 
TBH I think teh BNP are going to grow in popularity, especially in South Wales, mainly Swansea

Mainly because at the monent there are very few immigrants here but there's been alot in the news about more being sent to the area. Alot of peopel won't appreciate this.

I'm personally going to burn the edges of the BNP leaflet and mail it back to them :dopey:
 
I got a leaflet from the BNP the other day, and the guy running for our area is a full time gardener!! who in their right mind would let a gardener control their county
 
Well it would seem as though the BNP are the ones without a clue.
I looked at their mainfesto and saw some buetiful ideals and some lovely words such as "freedom", "democracy", "justice, and "free speech" here is an example:

"Freedom

The British National Party exists to put an end to this injustice. We will return power to the men and women of Britain, the taxpayers, pensioners, mums and dads and workers, and remove it from the unelected commissioners in Europe. We will provide a safe environment for all, where there is freedom from fear of crime, freedom from repression of the State, freedom of association and freedom of speech."

And you're telling me that we can live in a ideal country with love ,a wonderful environment, a neigbourly spirit, and freedom from repression just by voting in a neo-nazi gardener... VOTE BNP!!!

But just a second there is nowhere in their manifesto where it says exactly how it will acheive this perfect dream, you cant make Britain heaven just by deporting ethnic minorities and stopping immigration.

Another nonsensical area of the manifesto is their ideas of multicultralism(comments in brackets are my own).

"If this is the case, then the idea that it is possible to allow large numbers of people from very different ethnic groups and cultures to settle here, on the assumption that it is just something about our bracing sea air that tends to make us natural born democrats (most asylum seekers a naturally born democrats they come here to escape dictatorships and tyranny) , is fatally flawed. Just as is the idea that we can export our enthusiasm for representative government to other peoples, either by example or by carpet-bombing (the last carpet bombing incident in london was during the northern ireland conflict) their countries into giving up their penchant for strong government or theocracy.

Hence, in order to guarantee the continued existence of our British democracy, we also intend to take long-term steps to guarantee the continued existence, as the clearly dominant ethnic, cultural and political group, of the native peoples of these islands – the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh (the welsh?? are we going to set dominance levels for british peoples aswell??) – together with the limited numbers of peoples of European descent, who arrived as refugees or economic immigrants centuries or decades ago, and who have fully integrated into our society (as in decades will the present day refugees and immigrants)."

" We are further encouraged to see this as essential by two other factors. The first is the truly gruesome record of multi-ethnic societies breaking down into hatred and mass murder. From Bosnia to Rwanda, Indonesia to Northern Ireland (all of those wars were religious not racial so we need to do what i suggest and make athiesm the dominant religion), one only has to scratch most of the conflicts in the world – ranging from low-level loathing to outright genocide (hitler was a racist right, and the jews were previously accepted members of society therforewe have a perfect example of what will happen with BNP leadership) – to find that at the root of the problem is the juxtaposition by past migration or strategic decision by a ruling class of two or more different peoples in the same piece of territory."

"‘Racism', in other words, is not a consequence of ‘false consciousness', economics, imperialism or the work of evil agitators, it is part of human nature(you see they admit to being racist)."

But the thing about the UK is with rapidly improving FREE healthcare (atleast we have an NHS) and a low birthrate unless we have a high level of immigration the economy will collapse because we will have no one working, the other alternative is to make people work to 80 but I dont like that idea either.

In conclusion, the BNP are stuck in the dark (or should that be white because under their leadership black people will all be deported) blindly searching for a bandwagon to jump on. They dont realise that the one they have got on is a no express journeyto hell...:scared:

Or maybe I'm just melodramatic.
 
TVRKing
*prepares for flaming*

I'm almost ashamed of it, but I voted for the BNP because....

Despite what everyone thinks, the BNP are NOT racist. If you want to see a racist party, take a look at the national front, :yuck:

I'm not going to 'flame' you either, since you can vote for who ever you like, but I will say is this...

If you think the BNP are not a racist party, then can you explain why their leader Nick Griffin cordially invites Jean Marie Le Pen (the leader of, oh, guess who, The National Front) to 'illustrate their solidarity' with each other...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0,3605,1203344,00.html

Also, how is a 'white supremacy' party not racist?

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/otherparties/story/0,9061,1274093,00.html

Also, did you not see the documentary 'Special Agent' on the BBC, which clearly showed that members (including senior members) of the BNP admitting to racial assaults?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3894529.stm

That documentary and subsequent criminal investigation lead to the arrest of BNP party leader Nick Griffin for inciting racial hatred

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/4094275.stm

... he used the defence that his 'prosecutors' were politically motivated, but he was caught on film making blatantly racist remarks... Griffin and his party rely heavily on fascist ideology and tactics by exploiting people's fears and prejudices against anyone they don't like, e.g. non-white people. Unfortunately, they don't tell you that in their leaflets, which (as mentioned already) are littered with user-friendly words like 'democracy' and 'freedom'... Please don't take this as a person insult, but people who vote BNP generally are voting with their feet. Voting BNP doesn't make you a fascist or a racist, it just suggests that you haven't looked at them very closely before you voted. But don't get this wrong... they are fascists and they are racists...
 
I heard on the news that we have 300 political parties :eek:

(Including independants I assume)

Vote monster raving looney party!
 
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