Understanding Fall Out Boy.Music 

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How can Anyone understand emo?

I mean last monday me and 8 of my metal headed friends unintentionally went to an emo show ( The posters promoting the show said if youur in a band you can play, which enticed us, but they said no my friends bands couldnt play), and stayed only, and i mean only, because we could start mosh pits, and beat the living hell out of every emo kid there (and we did!),
but the bands playing sucked, i mean it went basicly like this.

Stanza about lozing girlfriend.
yelling so bad, it makes me playing guitar look good, and i suck bawls at guitar.
Another stanza about somthing noone could understand.
More terrible yelling.

And to top it off, there was litterally _NO_ beat whatsoever, the kids on guitar played like they had never heard a real guitar play.

Emo makes no sense. Its just unsensical
 
Hella funny, specially cause i just hate punk rock, no skill in it, it's a shame to call it rock. My chemical romance, green day, blink 182, etc... bleh dumbass music that just plan ol' sucks. :yuck: Hella funny though.
 
A classic. Thanks for the link.

(BTW, you could do the same thing with pretty much every Paul McCartney post-Beatles song. His lyrics generally amount to nothing but nonsense...)
 
Perfect example of the importance of consonants in singing.
 
Zardoz
(BTW, you could do the same thing with pretty much every Paul McCartney post-Beatles song. His lyrics generally amount to nothing but nonsense...)
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:ouch: :(
 
Master_Yoda
Hella funny, specially cause i just hate punk rock, no skill in it, it's a shame to call it rock. My chemical romance, green day, blink 182, etc... bleh dumbass music that just plan ol' sucks.
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That's plain ol' ignorance right there.I hate it how people think something needs to be hard to be good and anything that's easy is written off as bad music. Open yer' friggin' ears.
 
eliseracer
That's plain ol' ignorance right there.I hate it how people think something needs to be hard to be good and anything that's easy is written off as bad music. Open yer' friggin' ears.
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Heh you have a point, but all the "emo" bands that have appeared of late all sound the same, Hawthorn Heights kinda sounds like All American Rejects (who arnt actually that bad...) who inturn kinda sounds like Rise Against, just no political nonsense, Rise Against sound relitivley like Funeral For A Friend.. (All in my opinion)

Its just a big circle of "emoness".

As for the video, :lol: I love it, damn funny.
 
eliseracer
I'll be in the garage. I'm gonna start building a luleelurah.
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Which model? The square or circled wheel version? :lol:

Classic video, reminds me of when I hear people singing songs that they don't know all the words too, so they replace it with words that sound sort of the same.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. I never listen to emo, and I have a patient ear for barely any pop-punk (Green Day in particular I can stand), but it's so annoying how stubborn people are, especially with music.

And that Anti Flag "You can kill the protester but can't kill the protest" jargon. Please, that's almost as low as kids wearing Che shirts...
 
Bee
...Its just a big circle of "emoness".
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From the Urban Dictionary:

Emo: Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who don't smile, high-pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible guitar riffs with tight wool sweaters, tighter jeans, itchy scarves (even in the summer), ripped chucks with favorite band's signature, black square-rimmed glasses, and ebony, greasy, unwashed hair that covers at least 3/5ths of the face at an angle.
 
eliseracer
That's plain ol' ignorance right there.I hate it how people think something needs to be hard to be good and anything that's easy is written off as bad music. Open yer' friggin' ears.
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No what i mean is, take punk rock bands make millions every year, thanks to MTV and VH1, thats it, people get all there source of music from there, but all these bands (most of them) are amatuers that really just play. But if you look at bands that make very little compared to them, like TOOL, Dream Theater. Make very little, but have YEARS of expierence, and usually more complex songs ound a bit tastier.
 
Master_Yoda
No what i mean is, take punk rock bands make millions every year, thanks to MTV and VH1, thats it, people get all there source of music from there, but all these bands (most of them) are amatuers that really just play. But if you look at bands that make very little compared to them, like TOOL, Dream Theater. Make very little, but have YEARS of expierence, and usually more complex songs ound a bit tastier.
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You just completely changed your statement. In fact, I fail to see a single link between the two things you said.

I'll use Green Day as an example, as I know a fair bit about them. They made most of their mainstream fame in 2004, so that's where I'm presuming that you're taking that kind of a stance from.

They are not amateurs, in fact when you compare them to Tool, they're freaking veterans. GD has been releasing records since 1989, which is longer than Tool's first release in 1992. So much for the YEARS of experience argument, eh? They ain't amateurs, there are some things that BJ plays that are fairly complex riffs, written when he was 16 or 17, and singing while running through it. Take a listen to what they play with an open mind, you'll find that there's a lot more to it. It also takes a bit of skill to writing a rock-opera absolutely perfectly, getting away with making an album title like that, not offending subsequent religious and political entities and selling millions of copies.

There's a certain amount of to jealousy to it, you have to admit. You're mad 'cause some group of kids that grew up in a punk squaters building can make more money that your "virtuosic" laser-guitarists.

That's life, and business though: "Learn one chord, play punk and make millions, learn two chords, play rock and make millions, learn three chords, play jazz and starve to death."
 
Master_Yoda
No what i mean is, take punk rock bands make millions every year, thanks to MTV and VH1, thats it, people get all there source of music from there, but all these bands (most of them) are amatuers that really just play. But if you look at bands that make very little compared to them, like TOOL, Dream Theater. Make very little, but have YEARS of expierence, and usually more complex songs ound a bit tastier.
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MTV airs Post-Punk Emo music. Most punk bands don't make very much money... the whole point is just jamming with your friends. Dirtbike Annie and The Ergs are great punk bands, for example. I bet you've never heard of them.

I don't know what to call Fall Out Boy besides Commercial Rock. Anything that blows up by, for, or because of label scouts, MTV, and etc. is generally what I consider Commercial Rock. MC Lars's Singing Emo is a good song about the process, involving a fake emo band called Hearts That Hate.

Basically, there are punk bands that play for themselves, regardless of money, and then there are labels who scout bands, not for the band's sake, but, for the label. Every huge label wants one thing: Money. They'll go through however many bands they need in order to make more, which is why you see Fall Out Boy, etc., explosions on TRL and in the media. The Labels control pretty much everything. Master_Yoda, if you want to blame someone or something for "mediocrity", blame the public. When you realize you can't change the world by complaining, you can finally be humble in, at least, not funding the system.
 
Haha, great video.

All girls around my area think that Fall Out Boy is the best group ever. Lots of girls freak out when they come on the radio. Weird.
 
I don't really think Fall Out Boy is very emo. Seems really poppy and happy to me, actually, which is the opposite of emo...
 
Awsome video. Gave my a good laugh.

As for saying the popular puck rock type bands have no talent. Then why don't you go out and get yourself a record deal if its requries no talent. I do think that hard rock and heavy metal guitarist may have more complex and harder riffs but complex may not always mean that it sounds better.
 
Master_Yoda
Hella funny, specially cause i just hate punk rock, no skill in it, it's a shame to call it rock. My chemical romance, green day, blink 182, etc... bleh dumbass music that just plan ol' sucks. Hella funny though.
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That's fine to dislike a certain type of music, and in that case, I dislike Punk Rock and anything that stems from it, as well. Personally, I don't like the sound as it bores me. But that's a personal opinion. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it "dumbass" music, or make generalities that it's unskilled.

Sure, old-school bands like The Sex Pistols or The Ramones, etc, did not know how to play some of their instruments prior to making music, and their riffs and music in general are quite easy to play, but they did have the mind to create a style of music that appealed to generation after generation of fans, and create a new style of music altogether. That's fairly impressive in itself.

Bands such as Green Day did the same, though if you listen to some songs, their riffing is a little more complex, and they do insert a little skill into their playing, also. Bands like Blink 182 also do the same (and although being terribly, terribly overrated, Travis Barker is a pretty good drummer).

As for blaming them and labels for mainstream music? Well, blame the people around you. Blame the general public, if you're going to do anything. But, in my opinion, that's just as ridiculous. People will listen to what agrees with their ears, regardless of skill, etc. Those who appreciate music will love bands like Tool, as I do, and it's better that way. Tool make plenty of money as it is, and I personally believe that it's better to have proper appreciation rather than a bunch of screaming teenage girls liking them "because Maynard's hot", which he certainly isn't.

Leave the simplistic music and the music which appeals to musically unappreciative to the mainstream. Bands like Tool deserve appreciation by those who will truly appreciate them.
 
Well said, but I dislike Tool for the same reasons you like them. Doesn't make much sense, yet it fits perfectly.

They are talented musicians, no doubt. Just take a look at the Axis of Justice concert series, amazing contribution there. The sound doesn't really get to me, neither does the actual pleasure of playing a song of theirs on bass or guitar. Just doesn't cut it for me.
 
Giancarlo
I don't really think Fall Out Boy is very emo. Seems really poppy and happy to me, actually, which is the opposite of emo...
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Wrong... Emo is short for "emotional"... Happy, sad, in love, etc...

Some bands are labeled as Emo that I don't feel fully fit into the genre, such as Jimmy Eat World, and Death Cab for Cutie... Although I can see how such a labelling might have been made... I probably just don't want to admit they're emo, because I actually like some of their songs...

That's fine to dislike a certain type of music, and in that case, I dislike Punk Rock and anything that stems from it, as well. Personally, I don't like the sound as it bores me. But that's a personal opinion. However, I wouldn't necessarily call it "dumbass" music, or make generalities that it's unskilled.

Sure, old-school bands like The Sex Pistols or The Ramones, etc, did not know how to play some of their instruments prior to making music, and their riffs and music in general are quite easy to play, but they did have the mind to create a style of music that appealed to generation after generation of fans, and create a new style of music altogether. That's fairly impressive in itself.

Bands such as Green Day did the same, though if you listen to some songs, their riffing is a little more complex, and they do insert a little skill into their playing, also. Bands like Blink 182 also do the same (and although being terribly, terribly overrated, Travis Barker is a pretty good drummer).

As for blaming them and labels for mainstream music? Well, blame the people around you. Blame the general public, if you're going to do anything. But, in my opinion, that's just as ridiculous. People will listen to what agrees with their ears, regardless of skill, etc. Those who appreciate music will love bands like Tool, as I do, and it's better that way. Tool make plenty of money as it is, and I personally believe that it's better to have proper appreciation rather than a bunch of screaming teenage girls liking them "because Maynard's hot", which he certainly isn't.

Leave the simplistic music and the music which appeals to musically unappreciative to the mainstream. Bands like Tool deserve appreciation by those who will truly appreciate them.
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Preach it brotha!!!...

You took the words out of my mouth...




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