Unmarked tracks

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I've had this idea since my GT3 days. What if when you started a game, all the tracks on it had no marks what so ever, no skid marks, no black marks around all the corners where the racing line is, (not talkin bout your blue and red race line) no crash marks, the tracks all looked brand new, never been driven on.

All the marks that you put on the track stayed on the track, or slowly dissapered over like a year ingame time. That way all the marks around the tracks are yours and the other racers. all the braking marks are yours, the marks coming out of the corners are yours, black marks at the starting line, everything about the track is reflected on the way you drive. If you had a bad wreck you could see the marks from it many races later. Even the AI left marks that stayed. You and the AI are in a intence battle and one of you spin out, next time your on the track and pass the marks you can say (Thats where that ****ing car spun me out and made me lose the race) or (Haha thats where I spun that car out to win the race) or whatever you would say.

If you go online and are the host, everyone that joins can see the way you drive by the marks on your track. If you join someone elses room you can see there marks on there track, whoever is the host, those are the marked tracks that will be used. Online races could even mark your track up, or you could say no to that and all marks made online wouldnt stay there after the race.

Maybe even the walls could take damage like (EVIL EVIL (forza) EVIL EVIL) but to a better extent and stay for a while like the marks. Your like to cut the same corners on some tracks, well now you have dirt on the track which can easely cause you to spin and when it rains, well now you have a mud puddle. If you wanted you could wipe the marks clean and start all over, or just have a option to have preloaded track on. (like the are now)

This is NOT a I hate GT, OR I wish GT was like this, because it is not, and i like the game the way it is, so dont jump all over me, and call me this or that. I would just like to find out if people think this could be a cool idea or not, like i said i thought of it in my GT3 days, I dont even know if this could even be possable, probaly take way too long to load a race (but seeing how long it take GT5 to load one you would think thats what its doing lol) Thanks. Oh btw FIRST POST
 
It would be unrealistic (no cars were invented before you started driving?). I find skidmarks pointless anyway.
 
I will throw a comment out there.
Whilst it's a nice idea in theory, I wouldn't want my hardrive space taking up with skidmarks.
Maybe if/when a cloud database is up and running.

You Sir are a visionary.
 
F1 2010 tried to do the 'dynamic' racing line evolution effect... Whilst it sounds like a good idea, it just takes up processing power that can be used for more important things (Better AI, Windscreen reflections / dirt etc).

However, I recall PD saying that the tracks in GT5 have dynamic temperature / grip levels... it's a start.

I wouldn't like a brand new surface it would look too unreal. I think they need to work on the track surface anyway, most circuits tarmac is dull and bland.
 
I had the same idea a while back. So I agree that it would be great. I do however think that some issues need to be fixed before something of that level should be worked on.
 
I've had this idea since my GT3 days. What if when you started a game, all the tracks on it had no marks what so ever, no skid marks, no black marks around all the corners where the racing line is, (not talkin bout your blue and red race line) no crash marks, the tracks all looked brand new, never been driven on.

Someone has to have something to say on this

👎 I absolutely hate it.

Let me reference the world of model railroading as an illustration. Here's a locomotive the way you would buy it straight from a hobby shop (below).
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Now, here's another similar locomotive, but there's an obvious difference:
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The first image looks like a brand new locomotive straight from a factory, while the second one exhibits years of simulated wear, grime, and weathering. Why would somebody deliberately do that to their pretty model railroad locomotive? They do this because fresh-from-the-factory locomotives don't really exist in the real world. Even when a new one is churned out, it's only new for like five minutes as it immediately starts getting grungy as soon as it's put into service.

Race tracks are the same way. Race tracks are only new once, and from that moment forward they're mucked up with rubber and oil and they're scraped and banged up. It would feel totally unrealistic to be racing around a freshly-built circuit, especially when it's every circuit and most especially when they're circuits that actually do exist already and have existed for many years.

Then, of course, there's the problem with the fact that remembering all of this wear and damage and modeling it all means lots of system resources, which is simply impractical. Most people would probably prefer those system resources going to something more useful, anyway.
 
GT5 already keeps tyres marks for quite a long while. So I imagine if a game engine could bake the results onto a permanent texture this is quite possible.
Maybe for the PS5 and GT10 :)
 
GT5 already keeps tyres marks for quite a long while. So I imagine if a game engine could bake the results onto a permanent texture this is quite possible.
Maybe for the PS5 and GT10 :)

I'm going to assume that this technology will become mainstream in PC games soon (within the next couple of years), and will slowly make its way into the console market (you know, considering that a console doesn't normally have comparable hardware to a PC, as in worse).

It will be doable, and will likely show up before the Playstation 5.
I'd assume it would start to come to consoles around the time the PS4 is out, and maybe will be mainstream when the PS5 is released.
 
Not a bad idea but slightly unimplimentable currentlu, I'd say.
4D, I does exist. My little sister just discovered the tech for it and uses it to interact with her Barbie dolls. Took her a whole hour to design it.
 
Yea I know this idea is not possable anytime soon, and I would much rather the efforts go to other stuff that need fixing way before they tryed to do this, just think it would be cool to have in a game someday

@ice man: that's why I said u could turn the tracks off, and have the preloaded ones, as in what they already look like, beside it would only take a few races to get them to look used again.
 
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