Unpopular opinion - VGT Cars need to go...

[nickg07]

So I hated VGT when they were first implemented a few years ago.

And I still do. It's no surprise that when i hear about grinding hacks typically they involve a VGT car. The tomahawk for example.

I wish we had more normal cars than VGT's.

I'm sure fantasy vehicles have someplace in online gaming, maybe in Wipeout 2097 but for me these don't belong in Gran Turismo or are just too over powered that they don't make sense.

 

[TS050]

Imagine thinking the VGTs are bad is an unpopular opinion over here

 

[FlatBeatEric]

Agree

 

[RikkiGT-R]

It all started with the Nike 2022.
I’ve yet to see one IRL this year tho.

 

[unfairlane]

yup, they are a joke

 

[Oelix]

I wouldn't mind them so much if it didn't seem that they're taking the focus away from real cars - the ones we know and want to experience. Some VGTs are cool and/or interesting, like the Chaparral and the Citroen, but most are just plain ugly to me. That being said, I also dislike the fictional Gr.3 & Gr.4 cars clogging up the dealerships. Maybe they should give those and the VGTs their own special place?

 

[AutumnalGlow]

I just think they're neat.

 

[BrunusCL82]

I think them incredibly pathetic. So much time and resources wasted on producing futuristic cars from Blade Runner, Judge Dredd and The Jetsons is ridiculous. It sounds like an exercise in egoic maturbation.

If you're going to put fictional cars, I'd rather you waste your time creating Gr. 3 and Gr. 2 cars, but based on real-life cars, as were the LM Edition cars from past games and are some examples of Gr. 3.

Another thing that I despise in Gran Turismo is the rally. It should end. The physics is crazy and the cars are light as paper. If you are going to put rally mode, in order to justify the inclusion of rally cars from Mitsubishi, Subaru and Toyota, you should at least put RALLYCROSS, taking advantage of the dirt areas of Trial Mountain, Deep Forest or even Nurburgring rallycross, which exists in real life. .

 

[ProfDoobverk]

In GT Sport id complain that we didnt have to options to restrict certain categories from entering our lobbies without telling them to change or kicking them, well now we can't even kick them 😞 RonaldMcDonald.gif

 

[Nuschel01]

If you don't like them just ignore them. I'm pretty sure there's people who enjoy them.

 

[MrNukki]

I don't mind the VGT cars, they look cool and represent the amalgamation of technological advancements of various automotive companies. A perfect what-if type of car. Sure, I wish you could bar the VGT cars from showing up in private lobbies and the Sport mode and such, and yes, the game has a little too many VGTs, but still, variety is great in a Gran Turismo game.

Now, where's that Nike 2022...

 

[NICKname]

And if they were to remove the dozens of cars they have in total spent years of work on, the game would improve because...?

They messed up by promising to make loads of them and get them all into GT6 when that was obviously going to be impossible and, considering GT6 was never going to last long as a 2013 PS3 game, mostly pointless. But it's a decade later now and they've only done a handful in the last six years. Whatever. PD has spent even more time and resources on even dumber things countless times.

 

[nickg07]

And if they were to remove the dozens of cars they have in total spent years of work on, the game would improve because...?

They messed up by promising to make loads of them and get them all into GT6 when that was obviously going to be impossible and, considering GT6 was never going to last long as a 2013 PS3 game, mostly pointless. But it's a decade later now and they've only done a handful in the last six years. Whatever. PD has spent even more time and resources on even dumber things countless times.

No I would prefer they had not made them to begin with and had used this resource to create more normal cars.

 

[nickg07]

I wouldn't mind them so much if it didn't seem that they're taking the focus away from real cars - the ones we know and want to experience. Some VGTs are cool and/or interesting, like the Chaparral and the Citroen, but most are just plain ugly to me. That being said, I also dislike the fictional Gr.3 & Gr.4 cars clogging up the dealerships. Maybe they should give those and the VGTs their own special place?

I went to the jaguar dealership I think there are 2-3 times more race cars than production cars, and this is a mainstream car manufacturer - not RE Amiyama.

 

[NICKname]

No I would prefer they had not made them to begin with and had used this resource to create more normal cars.

You're talking about a studio that created an elaborate damage system just for four rally cars that are only used in one or two special events in GT5. And then they got rid of that damage system for GT6.

Vision GT isn't even close to being the dumbest thing they've wasted time/resources on.

 

[Staquix]

I think VGT cars have there place but we need a way to sift them out of races to keep players and AI from using them if we choose. The cars are cool and a good initiative PD started but for the most part I would rather keep my races on the reality side of the fence.

 

[nickg07]

You're talking about a studio that created an elaborate damage system just for four rally cars that are only used in one or two special events in GT5. And then they got rid of that damage system for GT6.

Vision GT isn't even close to being the dumbest thing they've wasted time/resources on.

No that would be modelling the Moon...

Or when they future proofed premium cars in GT6 or GTS I forget which but then decided to scrap them all anyway.

 

[Streeto]

Huge waste of time that could've been spent on actual production cars.

I feel the only people who enjoy them are children, and "grown-ups" who play this at casual level-99, not bothered about being good at the game, just want the stupidest, fastest vehicle they can get (probably with bought credits) and smash it into a few walls because what are brakes? If they p*** somebody off in the process then that's just a bonus!

 

[Madertus]

VGTs definitely need to go. I remember driving one of them once and having fun in the process.

It sucked.

 

[Veinz]

I think the way they collaborate with manufacturers for these cars is pretty cool. I like having them, even though I don’t use them much.

 

[Michael88]

I know some people really like them so they should keep them in the games to make those people happy, I however dislike them and ignore those concept cars.

 

[RocketPunch]

I mean everyone knows it's a meme/farm car. Personally I don't think it needs to be "get rid of", IMO, more cars are better than less cars. I see how it can be fun in single player & for a lot of people it fulfill a power fantasy. The best thing about choice is, you don't have to use it, but it's there if someone wants to.

 

[Aquarelle]

I would have no issue with the VGT cars if they didn’t get bunched in with real cars, the first week of daily races at Deep Forest featuring VGT cars at the top of the leader board constantly is frustrating.

If they were in their own class/segment I have no issue, but they shouldn’t be intermingled.

 

[BroncosXR8]

I'd be quite happy for them to disappear from the game altogether.

Or at the very least be all lumped together in a place only VGT cars can reside in.

 

[breyzipp]

Its rather pointless to have an opinion on them. They are Kaz‘ pride and glory and they are 100% here to stay. In GT7 and in the next GT games.

I actually take a lot of joy that the best cars to do the silly grind with (which Kaz don’t like us to do) is exactly with his precious VGT cars. 😆

 

[hardvibes]

They do make sense if you look at the bigger picture: automotive past, present and future. Some are fun to drive (the Fittipaldi that got removed, unfortunately).
VGT are also a way for brands to promote themselves in GT.
But I think they should have their own races. Not mixed up with everything else. Both offline and online. I remember the first few days of daily races...everybody was taking the Peugeot vgt and dominating every race compared to people who simply wanted to drive normal cars.
I hope PD won't make the same mistake again.

 

[nickg07]

They do make sense if you look at the bigger picture: automotive past, present and future. Some are fun to drive (the Fittipaldi that got removed, unfortunately).
VGT are also a way for brands to promote themselves in GT.
But I think they should have their own races. Not mixed up with everything else. Both offline and online. I remember the first few days of daily races...everybody was taking the Peugeot vgt and dominating every race compared to people who simply wanted to drive normal cars.
I hope PD won't make the same mistake again.

You think PD learn from previous mistakes? Wow

 

[Keef]

I don't mind them in the game but I refuse to use them in online races. They've got no place in actual competition, unless I suppose the race is sanctioned for them.

 

[Nagaremono]

I went to the jaguar dealership I think there are 2-3 times more race cars than production cars, and this is a mainstream car manufacturer - not RE Amiyama.

IMHO this reflects very badly on Jaguar. In Brand Central fully 5 out of the 6 cars for sale are fake. Three VGTs (half the cars anyway) plus the Gr3 and Gr4, fake/fantasy, only the F-Type is real. In the so-called ‘real life driving simulator’...

VGTs definitely need to be kept separate, with their own races and championships. It drove me nuts in GTS seeing those idiotic things in Gr 1 races with R18s and 919s. Even mixing up the GrC with the modern cars was stupid, but adding fantasy sci-fi cars from the future was downright insane.

They could at least force the VGTs to stick to the laws of physics - the Tomahawk and Chaparral in particular are sheer fantastical wishful thinking, cars designed by 10-year-olds with ‘magic’ engines. As someone above said, it started with the stupid Nike thing (I think the Jay Leno thing I also hated appeared at the same time) and it should’ve ended with it too.

 

[m76]

IMHO this reflects very badly on Jaguar.

It reflects badly on Polyphony, I'll not think less of Jaguar because polyphony only put one of their actual cars in the game. There are several manufacturers that have very lacking lineups. Yeah, GT was always JDM heavy, but the rest of the world had quite good representation also. Not in GT7 it seems.