Unveil the hidden specs thread! - Cars with no specs

[Famine]

What about the NSX Concept?

I have the car, it has no specs even in car settings.

563hp, 1500kg...

 

[Monatsende]

Some hidden/unknown VGT specs were given to me and added to the VGT cars in my thread.

I also want to add for some cars there are different informations you can read in the car settings and the GT description text.

 

[YZF]

If you want to convert horsepower to "metric" horsepower (the most awful unit in the universe)...

We use Metric HP in the whole Europe, except you, on that island...

You should join us and be united

 

[Famine]

We use Metric HP in the whole Europe, except you, on that island...

You should join us and be united

Actually all of Europe uses kW and has done since 1972. Any other unit is supplementary.

'Metric' horsepower is nothing of the sort. It's a rough approximation of Imperial horsepower and cannot be derived from other SI units - the metric unit is kW.

 

[YZF]

Actually all of Europe uses kW and has done since 1972. Any other unit is supplementary.

No. In practise, everyone uses HP not KW, and in case of Europe, thats Metric HP (ofcourse). Sometimes both types are used too (KW and HP), but you still have HP (metric) everywhere. Almost every car dealer, car advert or any other source of spec will use HP (metric)

'Metric' horsepower is nothing of the sort. It's a rough approximation of Imperial horsepower and cannot be derived from other SI units - the metric unit is kW.

Well no. It is a concrete unit, and not an aproximation and it has direct ratio with KW: 1.36

1KW = 1.36 Metric HP
1KW = 1.34 Imperial HP, used by UK and US (should be dropped imho )

 

[Famine]

No. In practise, everyone uses HP not KW, and in case of Europe, thats Metric HP (ofcourse). Sometimes both types are used too, but you have HP (metric) everywhere. Almost every car salesman, car advert or any other source of spec will use HP (metric).

Now read what I said again.

It has been law in the EU for 40 years that power ratings must be displayed in kW with any other unit as supplementary. What units your manufacturers choose to supplement kW with is their business, but it must be done so alongside kW.

Well no. It is a concrete unit, and not an aproximation

Wrong on both counts.

PS (or however it is termed locally) is an approximation of hp using metric units.

1hp is, as I'm sure you know, the amount of power required to move a 550lb mass through 1 vertical foot in one second. 1hp = 550lbft/s.

Non-avoirdupois countries don't have these units, so to adapt Watt's unit for the same purposes - advertising the equivalent power of mechanical engines compared to horses - it was approximated into kg and metres. There's about 3.3 feet in a metre and 2.2 pounds in a kilogram, so 550 was divided by 3.3 and 2.2 to reach 75.7. This is a bit messy, so it was rounded to 75 and 1PS was defined as 75kgm/s.

ALL SI units can be defined by dividing or multiplying 1 of any SI unit by 1 of any other SI unit. PS cannot - because it is not a proper metric unit.

Thus avoirdupois countries should use hp and metric ones should use kW - while the fictional PS should be confined to the scrapheap.

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

It has been law in the EU for 40 years that power ratings must be displayed in kW with any other unit as supplementary. What units your manufacturers choose to supplement kW with is their business, but it must be done so alongside kW. Wrong on both counts.

Correct.

1hp is, as I'm sure you know, the amount of power required to move a 550lb mass through 1 vertical foot in one second. 1hp = 550lbft/s.

That is correct for imperial hp.

PS (or however it is termed locally) is an approximation of hp using metric units.

Non-avoirdupois countries don't have these units, so to adapt Watt's unit for the same purposes - advertising the equivalent power of mechanical engines compared to horses - it was approximated into kg and metres. There's about 3.3 feet in a metre and 2.2 pounds in a kilogram, so 550 was divided by 3.3 and 2.2 to reach 75.7. This is a bit messy, so it was rounded to 75 and 1PS was defined as 75kgm/s.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that a metric hp is the force that is required to move 1kg of mass, 1 vertical meter, in one second. This is the formula that I have been told since I was a kid.

 

[Famine]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that a metric hp is the force that is required to move 1kg of mass, 1 vertical meter, in one second. This is the formula I have been told since I was a kid.

Nope - you can do the math for yourself, if you don't believe the math I laid out for you above.

Convert 1000 metric hp to Imperial horsepower using 1hp = 550lbft/s and 1PS = 1kgm/s
Convert 1000 metric hp to Imperial horsepower using 1hp = 550lbft/s and 1PS = 75kgm/s

1kg = 2.2048lb
1m = 3.281ft


The correct answer - as you know from the Bugatti Veyron - is 986hp. The former calculation will give you 13hp:
2.2048 (kg) x 3.281 (m) = 7.233kgm
7.233kgm * 1 = 7.233
7.233/550 = 0.013
0.013 * 1000 = 13hp

The latter calculation will give you... 986hp:

2.2048 (kg) x 3.281 (m) = 7.233kgm
7.233kgm * 75 = 542.54
542.54/550 = 0.986
0.986 * 1000 = 986hp

Incidentally, the SI system also gives us a unit for kgm/s, sort of. Kilograms here means "kilogram-equivalent force" (mass times acceleration), which has the unit of "Newtons". Newtons multiplied by metres (force times distance) has the unit of Joules (work). Joules divided by seconds (work divided by time) has the unit of... guess what... Watts (power)!

1 Watt is 1 Nm/s, or about 0.1 kgm/s (actually 0.102, because a Newton is the equivalent force to 1 kilogram accelerated by 1g, which is about 9.81m/s - so 1N = 9.81kg).

So "PS" is a completely superfluous name for the wholly arbitrary value of 735.5 Watts.


Like I said, the most awful unit in the universe.

 

[Smurfybug]

Nope - you can do the math for yourself, if you don't believe the math I laid out for you above.

Convert 1000 metric hp to Imperial horsepower using 1hp = 550lbft/s and 1PS = 1kgm/s
Convert 1000 metric hp to Imperial horsepower using 1hp = 550lbft/s and 1PS = 75kgm/s

1kg = 2.2048lb
1m = 3.281ft


The correct answer - as you know from the Bugatti Veyron - is 986hp. The former calculation will give you 13hp:
2.2048 (kg) x 3.281 (m) = 7.233kgm
7.233kgm * 1 = 7.233
7.233/550 = 0.013
0.013 * 1000 = 13hp

The latter calculation will give you... 986hp:

2.2048 (kg) x 3.281 (m) = 7.233kgm
7.233kgm * 75 = 542.54
542.54/550 = 0.986
0.986 * 1000 = 986hp

Incidentally, the SI system also gives us a unit for kgm/s, sort of. Kilograms here means "kilogram-equivalent force" (mass times acceleration), which has the unit of "Newtons". Newtons multiplied by metres (force times distance) has the unit of Joules (work). Joules divided by seconds (work divided by time) has the unit of... guess what... Watts (power)!

1 Watt is 1 Nm/s, or about 0.1 kgm/s (actually 0.102, because a Newton is the equivalent force to 1 kilogram accelerated by 1g, which is about 9.81m/s - so 1N = 9.81kg).

So "PS" is a completely superfluous name for the wholly arbitrary value of 735.5 Watts.


Like I said, the most awful unit in the universe.

The math, it hurts!

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

@Famine , Yeah... read it 2 times and I'm still not sure I get it to 100%, but its obvious that you're right. my bad.

I'd say ditch hp and bhp alltogether, by all countries, KW is a far better way of measuring power.


Anyway, back on topic:

@MonGnoM: What exactley are we looking for here? Because there are alot of cars that lack specifications in the dealership, but once you have bought them the spec's are visible in the garage, (like the ones @iName listed). And then there is the cars that lack specifications alltogether (i.e. the NSX concept, GT-R 2020 VGT, Toyota FT-1 etc.)

 

[Monatsende]

After the kW/PS/hp discourse I just had to google pictures for "math teacher". Guess which one made me ...

 

[lbpomg95]

The Tajima Sports E Runner weighs 1640kg and appears to have 886-887BHP.

 

[interpunct]

That's a question no-one but PD can answer. I can take a guess at it, but it'd be no better than anyone else's guess - also, it really irritates me.

What is your guess? I can't really guess anything really. I may understand concept cars since they don't have necessarily all the specs set in stone but what about the cars that aren't concept cars? It's frustrating.

 

[quatschkopp]

"metric" horsepower (the most awful unit in the universe)

Getting back to that after the next quote:

Actually all of Europe uses kW and has done since 1972. Any other unit is supplementary.

'Metric' horsepower is nothing of the sort. It's a rough approximation of Imperial horsepower and cannot be derived from other SI units - the metric unit is kW.

While this might be true for Europe (about the metric unit being kW - I haven't researched that fact), PD isn't European and cares like I don't want to know about kW.

If "metric" horsepower, such as "PS" is like 'the most awful unit in the universe', how come PD are using it internally inside GT6 to derive all other power units from it - at least when the value is shown? Same goes for distance. They're metric and I like that. But, I can also understand that you don't like that, as you're used to (in my opinion 'weird') imperial measures

It's just too bad that I am - per AUP - not allowed to post hard facts about that here..

So, just feed for thought or other speculation

 

[Famine]

If "metric" horsepower, such as "PS" is like 'the most awful unit in the universe', how come PD are using it internally inside GT6 to derive all other power units from it - at least when the value is shown?

It's a Japanese company and the Japanese car market uses PS as standard...

They also pair power PS with torque in Nm, which is so infuriatingly idiotic that I can't even begin to fathom it (PS = kgfm/s, so torque should be in kgfm; similarly hp = lbfft/s, so torque should be in lbfft).

They're metric and I like that. But, I can also understand that you don't like that, as you're used to (in my opinion 'weird') imperial measures

Uhh, no? I don't like arbitrary measures that pretend to be metric when they aren't. Read this post and this post again, where I literally spell out what the PS unit is, from where it's derived (Imperial horsepower) and why it isn't an acceptable metric unit.

No-one who's studied science, mathematics or engineering should be happy with the PS unit because it's an Imperial unit masquerading as a metric one, not an actual metric unit.

It's just too bad that I am - per AUP - not allowed to post hard facts about that here..

I have absolutely no idea what this means.

 

[quatschkopp]

It's a Japanese company and the Japanese car market uses PS as standard...

I can deal with that, we're still used to the "PS" measure here in Germany as well. Although regulations want to make us use "kW" for quite some years now. I can recall the factor for kW to PS conversion from mind. 1.36..

But on the other side.. it's really annoying for me, that "kW" also shows up on my OFW PS3 - while I know that PD are using "PS" internally. And I couldn't just switch it to anything else. I would have LOVED to see "PS", when I was still playing GT6.

They also pair power PS with torque in Nm, which is so infuriatingly idiotic that I can't even begin to fathom it (PS = kgfm/s, so torque should be in kgfm; similarly hp = lbfft/s, so torque should be in lbfft).

Bare with me, I'm not calling you out on what is about to follow..
I must admit, that's way too much techno-babble for me.. See below..

Uhh, no? I don't like arbitrary measures that pretend to be metric when they aren't. Read this post and this post again, where I literally spell out what the PS unit is, from where it's derived (Imperial horsepower) and why it isn't an acceptable metric unit.

To be honest, I'm afraid to read these posts. Like I stated above, and with the next quote come to my conclustion:

No-one who's studied science, mathematics or engineering should be happy with the PS unit because it's an Imperial unit masquerading as a metric one, not an actual metric unit.I have absolutely no idea what this means.

Yeah. There's the difference. I've never studied anything, yet I know nothing about all this fancy conversions. And how they apply or not.

But, I still noticed you've completely avoided my original question: "how come PD are using it internally"? *EDIT* with the additional question of: "when it is THAT bad?"

I do however have some other abilities (without studying at all), and they would allow me to reply to this:

I have absolutely no idea what this means.

Posting stuff that isn't covered/allowed to be posted by the AUP.. Like what PD are using internally to determine measures of power - which is then derived to any other measure being shown on localized screens. And where all of this nice data is stored at all - plus more data that just shouldn't be unveiled in public.

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You said you've covered all cars in terms of their power. Regardless of the unit - I just wondered where and how you derived all that values. While you where complaining about "PS" - where I think I know better about their original power mesasure as used in the game

 

[AquaGeneral]

For those who find it confusing/difficult converting between different units, I recommend using Wolfram Alpha. Rather than dividing/multiplying by numbers that are often hard to remember or don't fully represent the actual ratio.

For example:
Honda NSX Concept: 563hp / 1500kg

If Wolfram Alpha doesn't show you the unit conversion you want straight away, you can suffix "to [desired unit]" in the query (e.g. 1500kg to ounces).

Also, if you type something like "1500kg" in a Google search, there will be unit conversion tools.

Hope this helps everyone! Good to see the hidden stats for these cars.

 

[quatschkopp]

For example i want to know how heavy this particular car is.
So I start guessing the weight.

Instead of clicking around for hours by guessing the weight, could you create a list of all cars where the power/weight values cannot be seen in game?
I might help out on the list then..

I couldn't realible determine if the cars I'm suspecting are all the cars where the specs are hidden.
At a best guess, we're talking about 82 cars for Patch 1.19 in total..
And from that 82, 22 are Nascars from '10 and '11.

But as said, at a best guess.. there might be other facts that may lead to if all values are shown or not.. That's why I'm asking for a list.

 

[ZedMan1996]

You can also just buy the cars, and they will say the specs then. Apart from a few VGT cars such as the Nissan VGT.

The method that I use, as I have a crap load of cars in my garage, I just set the cars list to power, or weight, and see where the car with the unknown specs lands within the list, giving you a near 100% accuracy if you have a heap load of cars, saves alot more time than using the lobby function.

 

[Conza]

Here's a good one; car with ayc

Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac '01: ................................................................................... 225hp / 1200kg

 

[funkydunk]

You can also just buy the cars, and they will say the specs then. Apart from a few VGT cars such as the Nissan VGT.

The method that I use, as I have a crap load of cars in my garage, I just set the cars list to power, or weight, and see where the car with the unknown specs lands within the list, giving you a near 100% accuracy if you have a heap load of cars, saves alot more time than using the lobby function.

Buying them doesn't always reveal specs like weight and power - it works for some cars but not for all of them.

 

[Famine]

But, I still noticed you've completely avoided my original question: "how come PD are using it internally"? *EDIT* with the additional question of: "when it is THAT bad?"

Aside from that being literally my first response to your question:

It's a Japanese company and the Japanese car market uses PS as standard...

PS is what the Japanese car market uses as standard, thus PD are more familiar with (and will naturally use) PS units.

A large proportion of the motoring world also likes to use PS because it gives the biggest numbers. They even include it in the names of their cars. But it doesn't change the fact that it is a redundant, Imperial-derived unit.

 

[Monatsende]

[...]
A large proportion of the motoring world also likes to use PS because it gives the biggest numbers.
[...]

THIS.
(And also the owner like to talk about PS instead of kW because of the larger number...)

 

[quatschkopp]

Aside from that being literally my first response to your question: PS is what the Japanese car market uses as standard, thus PD are more familiar with (and will naturally use) PS units.

When re-reading what I've posted on the next day, I already suspected that my real point would get "lost" as I sometimes like to digress on minor things. But I'm not a friend of re-editing what I've written - fully tearing it out of context this way.
Nevermind, I think we can safely put this to rest then..

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However, it's been a week since I've posted an offer about the matter and no one cared about a single car, let alone setting up a complete list.

This means, I'll cancel my offer about sharing some light about how things are working internally.
Have fun clicking for hours, to determine an approximate value

 

[Famine]

However, it's been a week since I've posted an offer about the matter and no one cared about a single car, let alone setting up a complete list.

Have fun clicking for hours, to determine an approximate value

No clicking or approximation needed:

I should mention that they're all in GTPEDIA, for all cars in all of the games which brandish any power or weight stat of "-".

 

[Thomas__633]

But that costs money, which some of us are unwilling or unable to spend. This is like a Lite version.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

After the kW/PS/hp discourse I just had to google pictures for "math teacher". Guess which one made me ...

This one?

Oh and @Famine

kW and Nm for life

 

[MonGnoM]

Updated the OP.

Now included the Mitsubishi
CZ-3 Tarmac '01: ................................................................................... 225hp / 1200kg
Tajima Sports E Runner: .......................................................................... 887hp / 1640kg

 

[TRL_Andromeda]

@MonGnoM : Here is the complete list of all hidden specs (bhp and weight only).

And to clarify, they're all in imperial bhp.

The bolden ones are the ones that are completely hidden (i.e. spec's dont show up in the garage even after buying them)



Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52 - 73bhp/870kg
Acura DN-X '02 - 1400kg
Acura HSC '04 - 324bhp/1150kg
Acura NSX CONCEPT '13 - 564bhp/1500kg
Acura NSX LM Race Car '91 - 373bhp/1045kg
Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale '11 - 1552kg
Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - 616bhp/1120kg
Amuse S2000 Street Version '04 - 1190kg
Art Morrison Corvette'60 - 536bhp/1437kg
Audi TT-R '02 - 1080kg
Audi Nuvolari quattro '03 - 1550kg
Audi Pikes Peak quattro '03 - 1900kg
Audi R8 LMS '09 - 528bhp/1300kg
Audi R8 LMS (Team PlayStation) '09 - 528bhp/1300kg
Ayrton Senna DAP Racing Kart #17 '80 - 29bhp/63kg
Ayrton Senna LOTUS 97T '85 - 999bhp/540kg
Ayrton Senna West Surrey Racing, 1983 Ayrton Senna - 164bhp/455kg
BLITZ DUNLOP ER34 SKYLINE '07 - 1252kg
BLITZ ER34 D1 SPEC '04 - 1180kg
BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 - 304bhp/1520kg
BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 - 602bhp/950kg
Cadillac CIEN '02 - 1450kg
Chaparral Chevrolet Chaparral 2X Vision Gran Turismo - 905bhp/450kg
Chevrolet 2010 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ National Guard CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2010 Jeff Gordon #24 DuPont CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2010 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2010 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot/Old Spice CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2011 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ NG CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2011 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2011 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2011 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2011 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot CHEVROLET IMPALA - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet 2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS - 849bhp/1565kg
Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car - 592bhp
Chevrolet Camaro SS Touring Car '10 - 575bhp/1210kg
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Car '69 - 423bhp/1085kg
Chevrolet Corvette C7 Test Prototype - 455bhp/1500kg
Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59 - 1150kg
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) '14 - 1500kg
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Gran Turismo Concept '13 - 453bhp/1500kg
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) LM Race Car '06 - 656bhp/1090kg
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) LM Race Car '09 - 817bhp/1100kg
Citroën GT by Citroën Race Car - 599bhp/1200kg
Citroën GT by Citroën Road Car - 500bhp/1450kg
Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car '70 - 601bhp/1260kg
Ferrari 458 Italia '09 - 1485kg
Ferrari California '08 - 1630kg
Ferrari F40 '92 - 1352kg
Ferrari SP1 '08 - 495bhp/1450kg
Fisker Karma EcoSport '12 - 398bhp
Ford 2010 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford 2010 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford 2011 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford 2011 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford 2013 Aric Almirola #43 Farmland FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford 2013 Carl Edwards #99 Fastenal FORD FUSION - 849bhp/1565kg
Ford Focus RS '02 - 1050kg
Ford GT '06 - 1451kg
Ford GT Concept '02 - 1451kg
Ford GT LM Race Car - 606bhp/1140kg
Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II - 606bhp/1130kg
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85 - 980kg
Gran Turismo Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car - 590bhp/1165kg
Gran Turismo Formula Gran Turismo - 891bhp/550kg
Gran Turismo Amuse/Opera Performance GRAN TURISMO 350Z RS - 491bhp/1450kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100 - 22bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100 SPL. - 22bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125 - 29bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125 SPL. - 29bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125 Shifter - 49bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior - 11bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull Racing Kart 125 - 29bhp/80kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 - 1482bhp/545kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 Prototype - 1482bhp/545kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 S.Vettel - 1482bhp/545kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2011 Prototype - 1556bhp/545kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Fan Car - 1193bhp/545kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Junior - 246bhp/550kg
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Standard - 798bhp/560kg
High End Performance G37 - 1450kg
Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) Touring Car '97 - 247bhp/845kg
Honda CR-Z Touring Car- 199bhp
Honda DUALNOTE '01 - 1400kg
Honda HSC "The 37th Tokyo Motor Show Concept Car" '03 - 324bhp/1150kg
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) Touring Car '04 - 298bhp/950kg
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R Touring Car - 305bhp
Honda NSX CONCEPT '13 - 564bhp/1500kg
Honda NSX-R Concept '01 - 1270kg
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car - 1120bhp
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car - 1230bhp
Honda S2000 LM Race Car - 315bhp
HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT - 1338kg
Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson - 145bhp/1292kg
Hyundai CLIX '01 - 1320kg
Hyundai Click Type-R '04 - 950kg
Hyundai HCD-6 '01 - 1150kg
Hyundai Tuscani CCS '03 - 1440kg
Infiniti CONCEPT Vision Gran Turismo - 535bhp/1680kg
Infiniti Coupe Concept '06 - 330bhp/1665kg
Infiniti FX45 Concept '02 - 1500kg
Isuzu 4200R '89 - 1500kg
Jay leno Tank Car '03 - 3500kg
Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 '67 - 980kg
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77 - 880kg
Lexus IS F CCS-R '11 - 1400kg
Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08 - 525bhp/1350kg
Lexus IS F Touring Car '07 - 619bhp/1185kg
Lexus LF-LC GT "Vision Gran Turismo" - 612bhp/1075kg
Lotus Elise 111R Race Car '04 - 261bhp/720kg
Lotus Elise Race Car '96 - 173bhp/645kg
Lotus Evora '09 - 1330kg
Mazda Atenza Concept '01 - 1300kg
Mazda Atenza Touring Car - 295bhp
Mazda Furai '08 - 500bhp/675kg
Mazda KUSABI '03 - 900kg
Mazda LM55 Vision Gran Turismo - 791bhp/830kg
Mazda MX-Crossport '05 - 255bhp/1600kg
Mazda Mazda6 Concept '01 - 1300kg
Mazda Mazda6 Touring Car - 304bhp
Mazda Mazdaspeed Atenza '05 - 1500kg
Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car - 500bhp
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car - 463bhp
Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type-II) '01 - 1200kg
Mazda RX-8 Concept LM Race Car - 500bhp
Mazda Roadster Touring Car - 205bhp
Mercedes-Benz AMG 190 E 2.5 -16 Evolution II '92 - 980kg
Mercedes-Benz AMG Mercedes CLK-LM '98 - 1000kg
Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac '01 - 225bhp/1200kg
Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car - 314bhp
Mitsubishi Concept XR-PHEV EVOLUTION Vision Gran Turismo - 502bhp
Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car - 423bhp
Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car '74 - 825kg
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR Touring Car '05 - 401bhp/1080kg
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Rally Car - 441bhp
Mitsubishi PAJERO Evolution Rally Raid Car '03 - 1825kg
NISMO Fairlady Z S-tune concept by GRANTURISMO (Z33) '02 - 273bhp/1320kg
NISMO Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - 384bhp/1250kg
Nissan 350Z Concept LM Race Car - 499bhp
Nissan CONCEPT 2020 Vision Gran Turismo - 697bhp/1575kg
Nissan Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car - 608bhp
Nissan GT-R Black Mask '07 - 502bhp/1740kg
Nissan GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001) '01 - 447bhp/1560kg
Nissan GT-R Concept LM Race Car - 616bhp
Nissan GT-R LM Nismo '15 - 604bhp
Nissan mm-R Cup Car '01 - 137bhp/672kg
Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12 - 1700kg
Nissan GT-R Proto '05 - 445bhp/1730kg
Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car - 654bhp
Nissan OPTION Stream Z '04 - 1440kg
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) Touring Car '02 - 355bhp/1000kg
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R32 Touring Car - 495bhp
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R33 Touring Car - 520bhp
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 Touring Car - 555bhp
Nissan Zytek Z11SN Greaves Motorsport '13 - 900kg
Opera Performance 350Z '04 - 345bhp/1340kg
Opera Performance S2000 '04 - 270bhp/930kg
Pagani Zonda LM Race Car - 650bhp
Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98 - 741bhp
Pescarolo C60 Hybride - Judd '05 - 900kg
Pescarolo Courage - Judd GV5 '04 - 900kg
Pescarolo Courage C60 - Peugeot '03 - 900kg
Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60 - 1500kg
RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7 - 1240kg
Renault Sport Clio V6 Trophy 24V '00 - 293bhp
Renault Sport Lutecia R.S. Trophy V6 24V '00 - 293bhp
Scion FR-S '12 - 1230kg
Spoon CR-Z - 142bhp/1130kg
Spoon FIT Race Car '03 - 123bhp/990kg
Spoon INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) '99 - 216bhp/1080kg
SRT Challenger SRT8 Touring Car - 604bhp
SRT Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) #51 '00 - 587bhp
SRT Viper GTS-R (Team Oreca) #91 '00 - 587bhp
Subaru IMPREZA Rally Car Prototype '01 - 300bhp
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI Rally Car '05 - 410bhp/1065kg
Subaru IMPREZA Super Touring Car - 415bhp
Subaru IMPREZA Touring Car - 454bhp
Subaru IMPREZA WRC 2008 - 1230kg
Suzuki CONCEPT-S2 '03 - 176bhp/1000kg
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) Race Car '95 - 91bhp/590kg
Tajima 2012 Monster Sport E-RUNNER Pikes Peak Special - 887bhp/1640kg
Toyota 2010 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2010 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2010 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2011 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2011 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2011 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2011 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2013 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2013 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 2013 Matt Kenseth #20 Dollar General/Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY - 849bhp/1565kg
Toyota 86 Race Car Base Model '12 - 1230kg
Toyota ALTEZZA Touring Car - 300bhp
Toyota FT-1 - 486bhp/1320kg
Toyota FT-1 graphite - 486bhp/1320kg
Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo - 614bhp/1000kg
Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 - 227bhp/1000kg
Toyota FT-86 G SPORTS Concept '10 - 298bhp/1000kg
Toyota FT-86II concept '11 - 198bhp/1230kg
Toyota GAZOO Racing TOYOTA 86 #166 '12 - 1230kg
Toyota PRIUS Touring Car - 201bhp
Toyota RSC '01 - 276bhp/1350kg
Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car - 416bhp
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86 Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00 - 207bhp
Toyota TS030 Hybrid '12 - 529bhp/900kg
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Touring Car '00 - 495bhp/885kg
Volkswagen GTI Roadster Vision Gran Turismo - 551bhp/1200kg
Volkswagen GTI Supersport Vision Gran Turismo - 551bhp/1200kg
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car '01 - 216bhp/980kg
Volkswagen W12 Nardo '01 - 1300kg

 

[davidt33]

I downloaded mcsqueegy's list and have been updating it with the new cars and cars with hidden values; and I have been trying to get all the in-game categories on the list. My updated list is here.

Excellent list kukenjitsu. Cheers.