US Lancer EVO 8

[TsLeng]

The new Lancer EVO sold in the US will be a slighty watered down version of the JDM version.
No AYC, 4 bhp down, softer suspension............
I wonder is there anyway to get the JDM model in US?
Just asking, anyway I'm not in US.

 

[12sec. Civic]

I read all about this in one of the major magazines here.


They dont think the Evo is watered down at all. They like ours more. Its a bit lighter and cheaper, and a little more of a spartan track machine than a high tech gizmo racer.


I dont really like what they did with the front grill, but I really doubt its performance loss will be noticeable unless you have timing gear and a race track to test on.


Our Evo 8 has 4 less hp but 12 more torque in the mid to low rpms.

 

[KosmikFool]

I cannot forgive Mitsubishi for putting that ugly-ass front grille on...they took my Favorite car of all time ('cept for the GTO/3000GT Twin Turbo LM ) and made it butt ugly. Bleh.

I almost don't want Mitsubishi to be fave car company just because of that...screw it. Who am I kidding?!

GO MITSUBISHI!!

 

[1X83Z]

It's still a wonderful car, and they've given you guys everything you've wanted. Get over it if you think it's ugly. It's out, and it's powerful.

 

[12sec. Civic]

When people give Mitsu a hard time about it being watered down theyre nuts.


The Subaru WRX is WAY more watered down from its JDM counterpart with a fairly low 227hp. With the Evo's 271hp you dont think it will blow away the WRX? And the WRX sold faster than the 1964 Mustang j/k.

 

[advanR]

i didnt like how the evo 7 looked at all. but looking at the pictures of the usdm evo (i think its just called evo, not lancer evo, or evo 8) in road & track, i think its pretty attractive. i dont really remember what the jdm evo 8 looks like, but this looks a whole lot better than the evo 7.

i think all of these new japanese screamers are cool, but who is really going to be able to spend that much on them. stupid little preppy rich kids, and older people. i really like the wrx wagon, i think it looks better than the sedan, and it has better practicality for me. but I could never spend that much on a car. even if i had the money, imo it would be a waste. buying new cars is never worth it. i bought an E30 M3 in incredible shape for $12k. this car will last over 10 years if i want it to, and by then i will be able to afford another, or something else. the car performs better than the WRX, the experience while driving the car is unmatched by any car short of a porsche, and its styling and rarity are very attractive. a little under 5000 were brought into the country. and probably atleast half of them are now track cars or have been destroyed in wrecks.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by advanR

i think all of these new japanese screamers are cool, but who is really going to be able to spend that much on them. stupid little preppy rich kids, and older people. .

Strangely, it's men about my age - 22-28, maybe - who I see driving WRX's the most. I figured it'd be a rich-kid car when it came out, too, but it hasn't turned in to one as much as it could've. I guess it doesn't have the status. Still, men my age get it because it's quick, fun, and doesn't cost too much.

Unless we fit into the 'older people' category.

 

[advanR]

i was just thinking that, hahaha. by older i mean out of school and already making 40-60k a year.

maybe i am spoiled myself for thinking about such a car at my age. but it is not practical for someone my age. as much as i am drooling over all of these cars. they are finally here, but i cant have them, haha.

 

[Solid Fro]

Those preppy rich kids who do not know any better will buy a Camaro and get smoked by a poor asian kid in a Civic Si. The price of a car is no limit on a teenager. I see normal looking teens my age driving around in Escalades, M3's, and S classes.

 

[advanR]

The preppy kids in my town are just as dumb as the poor ones. They are all pawns of the "rice" propoganda of all of the magazines. They think japanese cars are everything.

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by advanR
The preppy kids in my town are just as dumb as the poor ones. They are all pawns of the "rice" propoganda of all of the magazines. They think japanese cars are everything.

Trends tend to trend, that's all.

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by 12sec. Civic
When people give Mitsu a hard time about it being watered down theyre nuts.

The Subaru WRX is WAY more watered down from its JDM counterpart with a fairly low 227hp. With the Evo's 271hp you dont think it will blow away the WRX? And the WRX sold faster than the 1964 Mustang j/k.

In Japan, there is the WRX, and there is the WRX STi (and STi Type R, and Type RA, and Type RA Spec C...depending on which year...). The WRX has always been ~225HP, and the WRX STi has always been about ~276HP. The Type-* cars have been STi's with different gearboxes, less weight, etc.. If anything, the US will be getting the most powerful official WRX ever, at 300HP. Japan is still sticking with the 2.0L 276HP version. (They do, however, get the "Subaru S202": http://www.evo.co.uk/driven/driven_story.php?id=32227 Rotten bastards....

As for who's driving the car, I agree that most are 22+. There is one silver WRX driven around here by some high school kid, though. But the most modified one is down the block from me: a 40-something-year-old volunteer fireman, with his ever-getting-better-er 555 blue baby. Lots more are older.

 

[KosmikFool]

Well, I like it, it's just that front grille. And it is one of the most powerful cars to hit American streets. I doubt we'll see many iin South 'Crap'-olina. People down here think that a Navigator is what Bill Gates drives and they can't even spell Mercedes.

 

[Duke]

I designed a Mitsubishi dealership building a bit ago, and I stopped in after it was open to see how it was working out. I got into a discussion of the Evo VIII with the sales manager, and he told me it was based on the Galant platform rather than the Lancer. Is this true? Because as I understand it, a common complaint about the Evo VII was that it was too large, and hence uncompetitive in WRC competition. If that's the case, why would they make it bigger still?

Or was he like sales managers everywhere, and knows crapola about the cars he sells?

Does anybody have a picture at hand they can post? If not, I'll look it up on Google.

 

[advanR]

I think the evo 7 and 8 are on different platforms than the lancer. but it doesnt make sense that it would be the galant. that thing is just too large.

maybe someone else can help us out on this.

 

[KosmikFool]

Originally posted by neon_duke
I designed a Mitsubishi dealership building a bit ago, and I stopped in after it was open to see how it was working out. I got into a discussion of the Evo VIII with the sales manager, and he told me it was based on the Galant platform rather than the Lancer. Is this true? Because as I understand it, a common complaint about the Evo VII was that it was too large, and hence uncompetitive in WRC competition. If that's the case, why would they make it bigger still?

Or was he like sales managers everywhere, and knows crapola about the cars he sells?

Does anybody have a picture at hand they can post? If not, I'll look it up on Google.

It isn't "based" on anything. The Galant and Lancer are "based" on it. It has it own types of chassis, etc. That dude needs to learn about cars more.

 

[1X83Z]

A picture wouldn't do much unless to scale by the EVO, Lancer, and Galant. From pictures I've seen of EVO 7's next to other vehicles, it's short - shorter than the Galant but longer than the Lancer. I'd say the dealer is wrong, but I can't be sure. It could be on a shortened Galant platform.

 

[12sec. Civic]

haha, I had a 15 minute argument with a Nissan car salesman because he insisted that the 2002 Maxima has 190hp. I told him that the last maxima with 190hp was in 1999 when they still used the 3.0L. He argued further when I said they now use a 3.5L with 255hp. He thought that was outrageous and insisted that that was way too much hp for a V6. What an idiot, why in the hell is he selling these things? I could do a better job.

Car salesmen are nothing more than a pretty face. They dont actually know anything about cars. I know this statement is very generalized and probably untrue, but it wont hurt anyone to think this way.

 

[TsLeng]

Ha!Ha! Selling a car when he doesn't even know the engine in it. Totally crazy. He'll be fired in no time.

Actually, Subaru Imprezas are no slow coach. In Japan many models are offered some having 300bhp.
I bought a video on a comparison between the Lancer EVO8 and a 300bhp Impreza type-c and the Impreza is actually faster(a little).

In the video, handling characteristics of the two cars are broken down. The Mitsu has some oversteer but the Impreza is very neutral. So it all comes down to what the driver wants.

I'll take the EVO8 anytime cause the new Impreza without the bug eye is uglier.

 

[advanR]

hahahahahahaha

i went to the local subaru dealer about a year ago. i went in, looked at the WRX and a guy came up behind me, bugging me already. he was asian, and didnt know english very well. he told me the car was a twin turbo 4 cylinder, so it was equal to a v6. yes, .... the two turbos equate to two more cylinders for some reason.

the guy was an idiot. i dont know how they hire these people. car dealerships shuold hire a bunch of young teenage kids, because they know more about cars than the people already working there.

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by advanR
hahahahahahaha

i went to the local subaru dealer about a year ago. i went in, looked at the WRX and a guy came up behind me, bugging me already. he was asian, and didnt know english very well. he told me the car was a twin turbo 4 cylinder, so it was equal to a v6. yes, .... the two turbos equate to two more cylinders for some reason.

Besides the idiocy of the guy's statement, it seems that the "twin-turbo" idea is a popular misconception with the WRX. Some kid was asking me about it, telling me how his friend just got one. "He got it with all the options. Yo, like, leather, the twin-turbo upgrade..." I stopped him there, not really able to tolerate any more "yo"'s, and told him a few truths, but mostly about the twin-turbo crap. And I told him, "No more yo's, okay?"

 

[TingBoy]

hmm about the EVO 8 front grill
Even though I think it's butt fugly, i think they added it for safety reasons. Before, safety ratings for frontal collisions with the previous Evo's were really bad... so yea...

 

[Vasco]

To answer the question posed before, yes the WRC Lancer evo VII was too big and thus quite uncompetitive, but now they are free to do what they want with it because now the Mitsubishi Colt will be taking over in 2004.

 

[advanR]

Originally posted by Hooligan
Besides the idiocy of the guy's statement, it seems that the "twin-turbo" idea is a popular misconception with the WRX. Some kid was asking me about it, telling me how his friend just got one. "He got it with all the options. Yo, like, leather, the twin-turbo upgrade..." I stopped him there, not really able to tolerate any more "yo"'s, and told him a few truths, but mostly about the twin-turbo crap. And I told him, "No more yo's, okay?"

hahaha, no more "yo's" .............................. hahahaha

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by 12sec. Civic


Car salesmen are nothing more than a pretty face. They dont actually know anything about cars.

Too true. All they have to do is sell cars. That's their only job.

 

[milefile]

 

[advanR]

thank you.....
those pictures make me feel better about not being able to afford one.

those tail lights are nasty. the evo featured in road & track was much better looking. The color also looked much better than that typical japanese rice yellow.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Originally posted by DODGE the VIPER
To answer the question posed before, yes the WRC Lancer evo VII was too big and thus quite uncompetitive, but now they are free to do what they want with it because now the Mitsubishi Colt will be taking over in 2004.

Actually its probably going to be 2005 since they are only testing the EVO this year because of the horrible season last year...

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Actually the EVO 8 doenst look half bad................it looks all bad! j/k...

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

Actually, this Lancer that we're having is the EVO 7.5, it is more heavily derived from the EVO 7 than the up and coming EVO 8. And most of its features came from the EVO7 w/c it sucks, having EVO 8 guise w/o the performance of the EVO 8 also sucks.

Here's some of the differences:
Interior (please ignore the left-right drive config.)

EVO 8 (JDM)

Photos by Misubishi Japan

EVO 7 (International version)

Photos from EvolutionImports.com


EVO 7.5 (USDM)

Exterior (There is not much difference between the 7.5 and the 8)

Specifications(This shows the biggest difference between the 7.5 and the 8

(The Specs for the EVO 8 is provided by Evolution Imports)
The following specifications are for the Evo VIII GSR model:
ENGINE
Engine 4G63 turbo
Cylinders/Valves DOHC 16V IL4
Bore x stroke (mm) 85.0 x 88.0
Capacity (cc) 1997
Compression ratio 8.8
Max power PS/RPM 280/6500
Max torque kg.m/RPM 40.0/3500

Fuel system ECI-MULTI (Electronic Fuel Injection System)

TRANSMISSION
Type All wheel drive, 6-speed manual gearbox

Gear Ratios
1st 2.909
2nd 1.944
3rd 1.434
4th 1.100
5th 0.868
6th 0.693
Reverse 2.707
Final drive 4.583

SUSPENSION
Front McPherson strut / Multi link
Rear McPherson strut / Multi link

STEERING
Type Rack & pinion (Power steering)
Turns lock to lock 2.7
Turning circle (m) 11.4

BRAKES
Front Brembo 17" Ventilated discs
Rear Brembo 15" Ventilated discs

WHEELS AND TIRES
Wheels ENKEI 17" MAT type light weight alloy wheels
Tires 235/45 ZR17

DIMENSIONS, WEIGHTS, CAPACITIES
Overall length (mm) 4490
Overall width (mm) 1770
Overall height (mm) 1450
Wheelbase (mm) 2625
Front track (mm) 1515
Rear track (mm) 1515
Ground clearance (mm) 140
Curb weight (lbs) 3108.5
Fuel tank (gallons) 14.5

All I say about Misubishi US is...