Vehicle length to add to databases

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SilverEclipse01

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Well, after searching all of the different FAQs and lists and databases out there, I didn't seem to find any that mentioned a vehicle's length. There are a few races in the game that you have to be under a certain length in order to participate. Some of the choices may be really obvious, but after I listed them all out, some surprised me. After all, many coutries have different interpretations of what is considered a "compact" vehicle. :sly: I found almost 50 cars that can compete in the game for the Lightweight K Cup and about 170 vehicles that are considered compact!

Here's an Excel format file and a plain text file for those without Excel. (Sorry, it's not lined up in columns very well.):

Enjoy!

Oh, by the way, I am using the NA version of the game.
 

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Ginetta G4 for the 3400 or less
toyota 7 (just do mission hall) for the 4000 or less
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Trouble is you win the Ginetta in the under 3400 race. Is it available to buy and, if so, why buy a car you are about to win?
The Toyota 7 is just WAY overkill for the under 4000 race.

There are so many other cars that qualify, why would you use these?

BTW the list is a great idea. Thanks also for adding NA/T/SC. Why they made that so hard to find is a mistery to me. 👎
 
If I may, I'd like to borrow this and incorporate it into a couple of my own databases. I'll have to check some numbers, because PD changed quite a few odd little stats between NTSC/J and PAL (all the MX-5s have different weights, to name but one), but I can't imagine there being (m)any differences.
 
Famine
If I may, I'd like to borrow this and incorporate it into a couple of my own databases. I'll have to check some numbers, because PD changed quite a few odd little stats between NTSC/J and PAL (all the MX-5s have different weights, to name but one), but I can't imagine there being (m)any differences.
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Please do use the data. I made the list just because I wanted to know how many times I could use different vehicles for each race. My original intent was to hope that length could be added to JKRobby's databases, since it seemed like a bunch of people wanted it and I used those filters quite often. So public the data is, and public it should be used. If anyone wants to use the data, please do so. It only adds to the experience. If you want to give me credit, so be it. If not, I'll chase you down one day. :sly:

One of these days I will get around to adding all of the maximum/minimum amounts for power and weight also. I am not that ambitious just yet though...

Oh, and one clarification...I have a column with the letter "C" appearing for any vehicle that can not be sold, only gotten rid of. It started as a designation for concept, but I expanded it so I could keep track of what would get me any credits.
 
Hey SilverEcplise is this for the NA release? I only have 721 cars in my list and you've got 735. My list might be off but I was just checking.
 
TornadoAlley
Hey SilverEcplise is this for the NA release? I only have 721 cars in my list and you've got 735. My list might be off but I was just checking.
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It is for the NA release. I have some extra lines on there. My "deluxe" version has extra entries for vehicles that can be obtained both as new/prize and used, since they have different HP values (I just have not added all of those USED HP values yet. I think I just copied the NEW values for now. Sorry 'bout that). This version is stripped down, but I forgot to strip out the dupes. Oops. Oh, and I also have the "black beauties" and black F1 in there as well since they seem to be different from their painted counterparts. I might post my deluxe version later for comparison.
 
eSPy
nice man. this will help out alot for those size restrictive races! 👍
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wow after the light weight k cup do the civic race and get a civic motul race car u can use it for all of the rest of races exept the british one.
 
THanks for this... i was after this exact thing! :D Champion!

one questino... how do you sort columns in excel (if its at all possible)? damn i wanna do so many things in excel at times but dont know how to do them (i needs to find me a residant excel guru :P)
 
HoffY
THanks for this... i was after this exact thing! :D Champion!

one questino... how do you sort columns in excel (if its at all possible)? damn i wanna do so many things in excel at times but dont know how to do them (i needs to find me a residant excel guru :P)
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Data -> Sort.

Thanks for pulling together this list! Much better than blindly paging through the garage guessing at which cars were shorter than X mm...
 
Thanks a lot SilverEclipse , it will be helpful .
Can you tell me how you managed to do it ? Do you own every car in the game ? Did you search through every manufacturer and used car list ?

I would like to add a column to the database including the engine displacement :

I know that it's not a requirement for any race in the game , but that's how cars are usually divided in real rally racing and touring cars championchip ( N1, N2, N3 ... up to WRC )
 
alech
Thanks a lot SilverEclipse , it will be helpful .
Can you tell me how you managed to do it ? Do you own every car in the game ? Did you search through every manufacturer and used car list ?

I would like to add a column to the database including the engine displacement :

I know that it's not a requirement for any race in the game , but that's how cars are usually divided in real rally racing and touring cars championchip ( N1, N2, N3 ... up to WRC )
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I agree. Displacement would be a welcome addition to any of the existing vehicle databases. I believe that in order to be considered a true K car in the real world, your displacement had to be under a certain amount. But in the game it is only a length regulation. If anyone wants to add displacement, or any other data, feel free to do so and post. As I said earlier, I don't have the ambition to do much more at this point as I am too busy actually playing the game! :)

Oh, and I actually used a GameShark code that gives you one of every car in the game to make this database when the game first came out. But for the black beauties, I waited for them to show up in the used lots, since that is just a matter of waiting for the right time. It's the only time I really have used a cheat for this game, since it is so easy to get good cars and bunches of cash from just playing or letting B-Spec Bob do his thing.
 
Hi SilverEclipse01, I went through your list to add the figures in my (private) PAL database.

First off: great work 👍

Some doubles I found in your list (apart from the 4 black beauties):
Renault 5 Turbo
Audi 2000 TT 1.8T Quattro
Lancia 1991 Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione
Daihatsu 2000 Storia X4
Honda 1963 S500
Isuzu 1968 117 Coupe
Mitsubishi 1970 Colt Galant GTO MR


Below the differences between your list (the American version) and the PAL version (check on cars only):

Different names (?) I guess:
Acura 2002 DN-X "DualNote-X" - There is a Honda Dualnote 2001 in PAL which is not in your list (?)
Acura 2004 HSC “Honda Sports Concept”- There is a HSC 2003 (?) in PAL
Honda 2004 S2000 - there is a 2003 S2000 in PAL that is not in your list
Honda 2001 Fit W ? = ? Honda Jazz 1.4 dsi Se Sp '01 (no other car missing)
6-speed SMT in USA version ? = ? Toyota MR2 V Edition (J) '02
Demio Sport in USA ? = ? Mazda 2 '03


Different names:
Infiniti 1990 G20 = Nissan Primera in PAL Version
Nissan 1996 240 SX = Nissan 200SX '96
Nissan 1996 240 SX (S14) = Nissan 200SX (S14) '96
Silvia 240RS (S110) = Silvia 240RS (S100) '83
Mitsubishi 1970 Colt Galant = Mitsubishi Galant GTO MR '70
3000GT SL (J) '95/96/98 = 3000GT SR (J) '95/96/98
Protege in USA = Mazda Familia Sedan Sport 20 '02


Not in the PAL version:
Infiniti 2003 G35 Coupe (Skyline Coupe in Japanese. Ver.)

Not in your list:
Toyota Esso Ultraflo Supra (JGTC) '01 (but this is a known omission in the NA version
Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT '03

Regards
CooperS
 
Toshi
Data -> Sort.
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But you have to realize it sorts only those columns and rows that are selected. If you just sort the column you want it will no longer match up with the rest of the columns if you are not careful.
 
Some other findings on the carlist (PAL):

The number of cars per nation:
Nat #
JPN 440
USA 80
GER 80
GBR 53
FRA 32
ITA 29
KOR 5
AUS 5
SWE 2
SPA 1
NED 1
BEL 1

The top 10 # of cars per model (all versions included):
Type #
Skyline 57
NSX 26
Lancer 22
Impreza 20
RX-7 20
Silvia 15
S2000 14
Celica 14
Civic 13
MX-5 11

The first non Japanese make is:
Corvette 9 (no 13 in the order)

The first European model:
Elise 6 (no 18)

Other non Japanese models with at least 5 appearances:
Camaro 6
GT 6
Esprit 5
Golf 5 (including the HPA)

The number of cars per car maker:
Nat CarMaker #
AUS Ford Aus 1
AUS FPV 2
AUS Holden 2
BEL Gillet 1
FRA Alpine 2
FRA Citroen 6
FRA Hommel 1
FRA Pescarolo 2
FRA Peugeot 12
FRA Renault 9
GBR AC 1
GBR Aston Martin 4
GBR Bentley 1
GBR Caterham 1
GBR Ginetta 1
GBR Jaguar 7
GBR Jensen 1
GBR Land Rover 1
GBR Lister 1
GBR Lotus 14
GBR Marcos 1
GBR MG 2
GBR Mini 3
GBR Triumph 1
GBR TVR 7
GBR Vauxhall 7
GER Audi 18
GER BMW 14
GER Mercedes-Benz 20
GER Opel 7
GER RUF 5
GER Volkswagen 16
ITA Alfa Romeo 11
ITA Autobianchi 1
ITA Cizeta 1
ITA Fiat 7
ITA Lancia 5
ITA Pagani Zonda 4
JPN Acura 7
JPN Amuse 4
JPN ASL 2
JPN Blitz 1
JPN Daihatsu 12
JPN Dome 1
JPN HKS 1
JPN Honda 77
JPN Isuzu 3
JPN Mazda 51
JPN Mine's 2
JPN Mitsubishi 55
JPN Mugen 1
JPN Nismo 7
JPN Nissan 101
JPN Opera Performance 2
JPN Polyphony Digital 1
JPN Re Amemiya 1
JPN Spoon 5
JPN Subaru 30
JPN Suzuki 11
JPN Tommy Kaira 2
JPN Tom's 1
JPN Toyota 60
JPN TRD 1
JPN Trial 1
KOR Hyundai 4
KOR Proto Motors 1
NED Spyker 1
SPA Seat 1
SWE Volvo 2
USA Buick 2
USA Cadillac 1
USA Callaway 1
USA Chapparal 2
USA Chevrolet 17
USA Chrysler 4
USA DMC 1
USA Dodge 8
USA Eagle 1
USA Ford 17
USA HPA 1
USA Infiniti 2
USA Jay Leno 1
USA Lexus 8
USA Mercury 1
USA Nike 1
USA Panoz 1
USA Plymouth 2
USA Pontiac 5
USA Saleen 1
USA Shelby 3
 

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