VIctoria's Secret

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Victoria's Secret

  • The homogenization and exploitation of women's sexuality to an unattainable ideal?

    Votes: 14 34.1%

  • Their catalog is my favorite book.

    Votes: 27 65.9%
  • Total voters
    41
So I suppose it would be inappropriate for me to request photographic examples of Victoria Secret advertisements ... (:
 
In the conscience of the 21st century we have trapped ourselves to the nth degree in regards to facial and physique requirements to beauty. However, in earlier periods a robust (or plump) figure was considered health as a means that you were wealthy enough to eat luxery foods, therefore obesity was the Aphrodisiac means of beauty for quite a few decades.
Then the economy changed giving to the poverty the access to eat as much as the wealthy back in history. Thus the robust figure no longer symbolized beauty as the physique for thinness flourished through out society. This would regard today as a message that the slimmer the better on a modern day body, it is something we have fallen prey to...
 
Beauty to me is a gray zone. I believe that is not healthy to be fat, nor thin as both have equaled to their own unique health hazards. Physiques such as Tyra Banks, Yamila Diaz Rahi, and Kate Winslet are of good examples. Giselle Bundchen, Callista Flockhart, and Angelina Jolie are primary examples of the slender to which can result in digestive problems. Rosie O'Donnel, Roseanne and other robust figures to which I cannot name off hand due to the fact that I study health rather than celebrities are more prone to clogged blood circulation, stroke, and heart attack. Dysmorphic syndrome is common in this society because now more than ever, we are at the peak of the superficial. Suicidal rates based on the depression of their own appearances have sky rocketed to the nth degree since the mid 1970's. Dysmorphic Syndrome means people suffer from chronically imagined flaws either on the body, or face. So much so that they starve, isolate, or over-work themselves to improve their esteem. Highly unfortunate. :(
 
Angelina Jolie? She's not overly thin... Calista Flockkhart tho...whoa, watch out for those floorboard cracks. When it comes to Victoria's Secret model I think they are far from soft-core porn. Have you ever seen a bikini? It's practically a same thing, except one is worn in the water, and the other is worn so you don't chaf urself while wearing jeans. :D As far as obesity goes, North Americans simply don't eat in the right oreder- we have a small (if any) breakfast, sometimes a medium lunch, and then a huge dinner. ALL WRONG. Any European family has a huge breakfast, a healthy lunch, and like a salad with wine for dinner. Don't have big dinners- your bodies cant handle it over night, when you're relaxing and sleeping. When you wake up however, your body craves food and energy and needs it to get through the day- not the night. Thats also why in North America Canadian's and Americans have so many sleeping problems. And don't forget excercise of course. About Victoria's secret models though, sure theyre a little thin but really, who cares? I'd rather just not look at them, and besides 3/4 of the pictures in the catalogues are airbrushed so that you don't see a nipple, mole, or scar or anything.
 
IMHO, I'd rather look at swimsuit models than Victoria's Secret.

I also wonder what the hell she's hiding. Maybe its the fact that she's really...a GUY! duh duh duh. :)
 
Whenever you hold your hunger through out the day, it increases your chance of over-eating later on. I always drink two cups of bottled water before I eat so incase that I eat until full, it will be the cause of water and not the food. I excercise for pleasure the endorphins increase when excercise is not based on stress, and not to overwork the ligments of my torso, and legs. I eat chicken, fish, fruit, vegetables. I avoid cream colored pasta, as pasta should be brown when naturally made. My happiness depends not of food, but of the study of art and SIgmund Freud. Food addiction is another issue in America. Over 60% of Americans are considered obese or high in cholesterol.
 
The Japanese in example are the best role models for dieting. Their cultural diet is almost completely of rice, and yet the average Japanese citizen is considered healthy, while the fanatically diet obsessed Americans are deemed as being overweight! The problem? Portions!
For example, six tuna rolls of Tekka Makki is barely any food at all and it costs $3.99 on average. To an average American you can never have to much sushi as one would say. However, to the Japanese, six roles is a feast. There you have it!
 
Could you please use the edit button when you have after thoughts, from now on? You're playing with fire, here...
 
If you feel that I am playing with fire for saying that a certain society / culture eats in moderation then perhaps since I am an American, saying that most of my society is obese would cool down the fire. I should not have offended anyone. I only said what was said based on my own autognosis, I apologise for the non existant offense if it pleases you.
 
What's with everyone misunderstanding what I'm trying to say, lately?

I was saying that you shouldn't post two times consecutively, only minutes apart. If you feel like you forgot to mention something in your post, I'd suggest using the edit feature, which is where the "playing with fire" notice came from. Nothing to say on the subject of your posts, just the way you're using the board.
 
milefile
Also, the emaciated models are such a farce. I used to think these stick chicks were hot but for several years now their protruding bones and gaunt faces have grossed me out. And there's also the unrealistic female ideal they propagate, which most people realize by now.
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I couldn't agree more.

There's a Target catalog that comes in the mail once a week, I think, that features what looks like normal women who work out to keep themselves fit, in their panties.

For those who don't know, Target is an "everything but groceries" store - clothes, toys, et al.

They're actually quite good looking as well, which is more than I can say for any Victoria's Secret model that I know of. But then, I don't know many Victoria's Secret models.
 
Thealosia
My happiness depends not of food, but of the study of art and SIgmund Freud.
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Don't eat for a week, starting now. Come back and report what your happiness depends on next monday.
 
I dont have the catelog but we have a Victorias secret store in the mall. I have bought several 2 piece items from there including braw and panties. My girlfriend has always been very happy with what I purchase for her. And obviously I am happy too. :) Shopping for her is very easy though since all I do is find a manikin that has something that I like. Then I just tell the ladies that work there that I want exactly what the manikin is wearing. My GF is usually the exact same size. Small top small bottom so shopping is a breeze there so I have nothing against them or how they promote their product. :)👍
 
CAMAROBOY69
I dont have the catelog but we have a Victorias secret store in the mall. I have bought several 2 piece items from there including braw and panties. My girlfriend has always been very happy with what I purchase for her. And obviously I am happy too. :) Shopping for her is very easy though since all I do is find a manikin that has something that I like. Then I just tell the ladies that work there that I want exactly what the manikin is wearing. My GF is usually the exact same size. Small top small bottom so shopping is a breeze there so I have nothing against them or how they promote their product. :)👍
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Your girlfriend is an emaciated stick?
 
Stinky Chicken
Your girlfriend is an emaciated stick?
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My girfriend has the EXACT same body as your avatar. :) There are pics of her on my websites.
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Stinky Chicken
You like looking at emaciated anorexic sticks? :odd:
That's Jennifer Garner. Don't get me talking about her. :sly:
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You must like looking at them too if she is in your avatar. :lol: If Jennifer Garner is an emaciated stick then yes so is my girlfriend. :lol:
 
Stinky Chicken
You like looking at emaciated anorexic sticks? :odd:
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I should be allowed to make up my own mind about them being toolboxes or not, which, of course, I can't, since we don't get the bloody catalogs :grumpy:
 
Excuse me, what is wrong with looking like a sexy slick model? It's required to tone, chisel, and excercise. A slim body to a woman is as hard as a man gaining a six pack.
 

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My problem with underwear stores (in general), is not what they do to women, it's what they do to men. They portray the fact that these extremely abbreviated garments are sexy. But the girls that I have been with have always complained of discomfort whilst wearing such garments, and as such, they don't feel sexy, because they're not comfortable.

So, following this through logically, what's the point of the "sexy" underwear, if all that's going to happen is it makes the wearer uncomfortable and thus not in a sexual mood.

Additionally, there's a very fine and difficult line to tread. Some of the items are well made, attractive and comfortable. These are hard to find. Mass-market lingerie shops tend to sell cheap tat that either doesn't fit properly (so gets binned because it's uncomfortable), or is poorly made (so gets binned because it's fallen apart). The good stuff, as well as being rare, tends to be fairly expensive.

And when you give a woman overtly sexual underwear, you're not saying "I want you to have this because I think it's nice", you're saying "I want you to have this because I want to have sex with you". It sends completely the wrong message.

I guess that - after having conducted extensive research over a number of years and with a number of girls - I have decided that the best ploy when selecting underwear for my lady is to extricate myself from the process. It's far better that she choose what works for her. And when it comes to her being sexy, I really couldn't care less what she's wearing.
 
Ahh, Giles. A paragon of wisdom as always.
 
GilesGuthrie
My problem with underwear stores (in general), is not what they do to women, it's what they do to men. They portray the fact that these extremely abbreviated garments are sexy. But the girls that I have been with have always complained of discomfort whilst wearing such garments, and as such, they don't feel sexy, because they're not comfortable.

So, following this through logically, what's the point of the "sexy" underwear, if all that's going to happen is it makes the wearer uncomfortable and thus not in a sexual mood.
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Unless - of course - we, as the male part of the relationship KNOWS what to get, and more importantly, what not....

Additionally, there's a very fine and difficult line to tread. Some of the items are well made, attractive and comfortable. These are hard to find. Mass-market lingerie shops tend to sell cheap tat that either doesn't fit properly (so gets binned because it's uncomfortable), or is poorly made (so gets binned because it's fallen apart). The good stuff, as well as being rare, tends to be fairly expensive.
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Well - This generally applies to everything you buy... But in this area, it gets even worse, since many men I know seems to be intimidated by buying lingerie - hence it gets so much easier to sell cheap crap for a lot of money - all it takes is a name.... Again - If you KNOW what she'll like, then there is no problem...

And when you give a woman overtly sexual underwear, you're not saying "I want you to have this because I think it's nice", you're saying "I want you to have this because I want to have sex with you". It sends completely the wrong message.
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Huh ?... Giving the better half lingerie that says "I want to have s3x with you" is bad how ?.... I'm fairly sure (unless she's a special breed) that lingerie is appreciated a lot more than Harley Davidson tights.....

I guess that - after having conducted extensive research over a number of years and with a number of girls
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All in the name of science of course ;)

I really couldn't care less what she's wearing.
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I reserve the right to disagree - each to his own and all that.....
 

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