VTEC Owners Club

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I'm wondering what's with all these people and wanting prelude's all of a sudden. What's so great about them, that's what I'd like to know. As for the AWD Storm, it's just a AWD drivetrain from an impulse which run's off of the same platform, meaning it's a part on job, no real custom fabrication.
 
prelude has a 2.2 4 cylinder..its a potent engine. makes more torque than an S2000, plus they look nice..drive well..handle excellent. im in Gulf Breeze FL..asking 12,000. i've got a few offers on it, just going to have to see who comes and gets it first. i'm wanting a new car..but i dont have a penny till i sell this car. (its almost stock..excluding a short throw shifter and H&R sport springs.) i have a few parts i could sell with it as well...
 
I know the specs on the prelude inside and out, i'm a very big Honda fan. I just want to know why people want it. It's aftermarket is fairly limited as compared to other model honda engines. Look nice? Well I guess that's your preference, especially when speaking of the 98 model's with the "crosseyed" headlights.:rolleyes: . As far as handling well? Well they handle better than any other rear heavy FWD Car with such a long(not wide) wheelbase should, which doesn't say much. I know the Prelude Type SH Does .88 Consistantly on the skidpad. Which is less than most other Honda's out there.
 
Wow, i thought I was the only one who drove the hondas in gt3 :lol: the Hondas in my garage have the most miles on them and I drive my ek9 and Spoon s2k everytime i play, i currently have 4 EK9s 2 SiRII, 5 s2ks, 5 RSX, and 4 NSX. lol all tuned differently just for kicks. I wish GT3 could have made the VTEC sound and kick more noticible in the game it would be great.. although when you start tuning the car for race the VTEC crossover point is smoothend out and its not as noticible anymore. and hopefully by gt4 they do some work on the disqusting exhaust note the hondas make it the game.. sounds like plastic bags stuffed inside the exhaust system flapping around. But anyway, its good to know there are some honda circuit/gt racing fans out there :cool:
 
I have an 88 CRX with 13" wires on it for now i just wanted to get rid of the gay @$$ stock Honda wheels if anyone can give me a deal on some newer honda 4-lug alloys ill get ahold of you or better yet you get a hold of me. anyway ASAP i will get a hold of a B18 if i can or B16 to swap into it. along with the 5-spd. tranny. I am looking for some wheels like the ones on this sweet C-Rex.
 

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I love those GSR wheels on a crx, those wheels run like hot cakes over here.. you can get a set for like 150 nowdays, my friends have those as spares :lol:
 
oh heh i thought ving was gonna ut a hole crapload of fiat pics and say they own...lol fiat i got a new acronym for that too which is

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Give it up Ving. Fiat's own NEW honda's perhaps, simply because the new Civic's and Integra's are trash, but don't mess with DC5's and EG6's buddy. By the way, why don't Fiat's compete with the EP Civic's Audi TT's and BMW's in that one Circut?
BTW that fiat looks just like that Ford Panther or whatever it's called. You know the one that was the Top Gear COTY
 
Originally posted by Driftster
Give it up Ving. Fiat's own NEW honda's perhaps, simply because the new Civic's and Integra's are trash, but don't mess with DC5's and EG6's buddy. By the way, why don't Fiat's compete with the EP Civic's Audi TT's and BMW's in that one Circut?
BTW that fiat looks just like that Ford Panther or whatever it's called. You know the one that was the Top Gear COTY

the owner of that car in the pic drags STis with it!

it'll beat ya puncey honda any day :p
 
Bring it on Ving, bring it on. uncey honda. I'd like to see the 5Cyl Turbo FWD Vs a Midship N/A V6, You know the NSX would win. "puncey honda" Poo on your FIAT POO~ :lol:
 
ehhh there is no fantastic honda... cept for s2000... and even that is out performed by similar price ranged cars from other comps... dont even get me started on nsx, accord, civic, integra or any other car made...

kinda wish there was a 4wd prelude... would have been interesting... or maybe it wouldnt have been...

but anyways... vtec is slightly overrated... there are many more advanced methods these days... of engine management and producing more power from smaller engines...
 
What is wrong with the Civic Seeing as how it is a extremely light car, and very nimble, I mean in 2000 a Civic hatchback EG6 chassis with a Stock B16A engine won the Speed Channel circut race What is it called "fast Car " or some corny name like that. As for the NSX, extremly great car, best Sports car to come from japan for the past couple of years. Name another naturally aspirated V6 car that ran 12 second quarter miles, had a Drag coeficient that would rival pro race cars, and held well over 1 G on the skidpad that were 100% Stock and 100% Street legal? Not only that, it's a midmounted engine meaning it's very balanced, and very light. The Skyline's great, but it's heavy and has Ceramic turbo's which are cruddy when compared to it's superb engine, and the fact that it's an un natural AWD system(That's what I call it) seeing as how it's a AWD system built onto a RWD platform. And the Supra....Don't get me started with that.
 
The NSX weighs exactly 3050-3100 lb, which ,my friend, does not make the car light at all. While it may be the best thing from japan to grace us shores in a while (which is definitely negotiable), it is in no way near the supras price range and in no way will it tear up the track on similarly priced cars from europe ( 911's, lotus's, and others). In fact i am willing to bet that there are some fantastic cars that were even below the nsx's price range that with some slight modification could match this supposed supercar adn even take it on some roads.

What exactly do you mean well over 1g. 1g is already alot for most supercars. So what does well over that mean??? Close to 2g???

I never said the civic was horrible. I said that it was not a fantastic car. strictly speaking from performance terms there is no b16 engine that is extremely impressive. However, for its fuel economy it does offer a modest amount of power.

I just wanted to know y people loved vtec so much. And i believe that there are better ways to spends ones money than on a nsx.

But hey those are just my opinions. Believe what you will, i am not trying to change what you believe. Some people liek certain cars other people dont.

And dont get me wrong i love the s2000. But really its 30k think of all hte other cars you can get for 30k and compare.
 
Originally posted by bengee
The NSX weighs exactly 3050-3100 lb, which ,my friend, does not make the car light at all. While it may be the best thing from japan to grace us shores in a while (which is definitely negotiable), it is in no way near the supras price range and in no way will it tear up the track on similarly priced cars from europe ( 911's, lotus's, and others). In fact i am willing to bet that there are some fantastic cars that were even below the nsx's price range that with some slight modification could match this supposed supercar adn even take it on some roads.

What exactly do you mean well over 1g. 1g is already alot for most supercars. So what does well over that mean??? Close to 2g???

I never said the civic was horrible. I said that it was not a fantastic car. strictly speaking from performance terms there is no b16 engine that is extremely impressive. However, for its fuel economy it does offer a modest amount of power.

I just wanted to know y people loved vtec so much. And i believe that there are better ways to spends ones money than on a nsx.

But hey those are just my opinions. Believe what you will, i am not trying to change what you believe. Some people liek certain cars other people dont.

And dont get me wrong i love the s2000. But really its 30k think of all hte other cars you can get for 30k and compare.

you're right 3050 is alot in terms of cars, however 2799 isn't, which is the weight of the newer C32 NSX-R, heck even the older C32 only weighted 2825. In terms of G's Well over 1 G is in the neighborhood of 1.1, yeah super cars to strive for 1 G, and well over 1 G isn't 2G's in terms of stock achievment. That .1 Is quite a difference from 1.0. Peopole love Vtec So much because it is a great source of both Power and Economy.In terms of the Price, yeah it's 88,000 in the united states for the base crap model. When it's 68-72 In japan for the R model, and don't tell me otherwise because I've seen them in that price range for myself. Of course it's going to be out of the Supra's price range, it's a better car. As far as the S2000. The other cars you can get for 30,000k Are what? The WRX, The Cadillac CTS. Whoa settle down with the performance.
 
Don't compare the Supra to the NSX, The NSX has the same power in Japanese trim as the Supra, and has it through Naturally aspirated specifications. The Supra weights in at 3284 LBS. The Skyline also has the same rated HP as that in JDM trim and weights in at 3395 lbs. So even if you continue to think that 3050 "is alot of weight" Think of the other cars in the catagory you placed it in weight.
 
Dyno any Japanese market sports car and compare that to the "rated" horsepower. I remember reading that that Evo VI was actually closer to 315hp:eek:
 
Eleven, The Supra is one of the few that wernt' rated in it's japanese desent specifically because Toyota produced a different base # for the Supra for it's export model, therefore causing the "watchfull eye" on the JDM supra to be even more watchful. The Evo's and the Skyline's and the NSX's however have the same rated HP throughout their sales, leaving them more open to "Freak cars" even if 90% of them are..
 
bengee:

I don't know what magazines you've been reading, but even the ones that trash the NSX and put it up against Ferrari's and Lamborghini's that cost three times as much have to admit that (1) the NSX is a much more comfortable car that you can drive every day, (2) it handles better than anything, and (3) it's about 100 times more reliable than any other exotic car.

My dad has a '91 NSX that has basically been beat to hell. It has over 150,000 miles and gets driven almost every day. Not only is the car 12 years old, but it's also the first year the NSX was made. With most cars, getting the first model year means you'll have all kinds of problems, but this car hasn't needed a single thing. It runs beautifully. The only thing that's ever broken was one of the power windows started acting funny last year so he replaced the motor.

The NSX has fewer TSB's than any car I've ever heard of. The only problems they had with them were a few random stereo-related things, rough power window motors in the first few years, the first 2400 made in 1991 had a recall on 3 coolant hoses that they thought might break in a few years, and a few of the 1991's had the airbag recalled.

Every other exotic car will cost you many thousands each year to keep running. Even the cheaper Porsches get very expensive very fast. And if you're talking about cheaper cars that perform pretty well, go take a look at all the TSB's and recalls on Supras, 3000GT's, or whatever else. If you want a real big laugh look up all the problems people have with RX-7's and Corvettes.

The NSX is the only exotic car in the world that is practical to own if you're not a millionaire.

As far as VTEC, well, it was a pretty big innovation in 1990. Now it's being copied a lot.

How can you say a B16 isn't impressive except for fuel economy? B16's have been around since 1990 and get 160-185hp out of 1.6L. Let's look at some Honda engines.

B16A (Civic Si): 1.6L, 160-170hp = 100-106 hp/L
B16B (Civic Type R): 1.6L, 185hp = 116 hp/L
B18C5 (Integra Type R): 1.8L, 195hp = 108 hp/L
K20A (JDM Integra): 2.0L, 220hp = 110 hp/L
K20A2 (Acura RSX): 2.0L, 200hp = 100 hp/L
F20C (S2000): 2.0L, 240hp = 120 hp/L
CBR900RR: 929cc, 152hp = 164 hp/L

Last I heard, getting over 100 hp per litre was pretty good for a completely stock NA car. The only thing I know of that comes close is the Toyota Celica GT-S, that gets 180hp out of the new 1.8L engine they got Yamaha to help them with.
 
I've never seen a stock NSX run 12's. Please enlighten me.

Also when we talk about HP and Torque please post at what rpm its made, and if possible a dyno sheet so we can see the powerband. Less power with a wider powerband is normally faster.
 
i think those hp reading are at the rev limit... which varies... just search for honda b16 specs on internet... you will find something...
 
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