Warnings/Bannings

[Iceman]

I was just viewing the thread about Public Secrecy's banning, and I was wondering if there was a way to find out if you had any warnings against your name. Shouldn't we be able to see if we are doing something wrong so we can correct it? I'm pretty sure the mods would contact you personally if you were given a warning, but I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance for clearing this up 👍.

 

[PS]

I only officially got 2, but I've gotten a recommendation from time to time out of sheer unknowing-ness. Kind of afraid to say anything though. Apparently (according to Jordan) I was banned for spamming, which I see as reasonable, but I still had a warning left and could therefore have stopped all of it and edited previous spam and all would be clear. I'm still just wondering if the mods can reset PublicSecrecy or something because I love the name.

 

[Der Alta]

No, there is no way to find out how many you have. Sure, the moderators could search through at your request, but we won't. Do it once, you have to do it everytime.

To rest assure, if you've not been contacted via PM by a moderator, you haven't been logged.

If you violate the AUP or the TOS, we will warn you directly via PM. You will have the chance to discuss your actions and make reparations, as we don't enjoy banning people and are much happier to work out someones issues and let them turn themselves around.

So don't worry, you won't log in and randomly find yourself banned. Unless, I've been drinking heavily, and I'll ban you for having a silly name

I only officially got 2, but I've gotten a recommendation from time to time out of sheer unknowing-ness. Kind of afraid to say anything though. Apparently (according to Jordan) I was banned for spamming, which I see as reasonable, but I still had a warning left and could therefore have stopped all of it and edited previous spam and all would be clear. I'm still just wondering if the mods can reset PublicSecrecy or something because I love the name.

So after two warnings you didn't change your MO, and when we took action you think we should have given you another chance. Now you have your last chance. use it with care.

AO

 

[Iceman]

Thanks Der Alta 👍.

 

[///M-Spec]

I only officially got 2, but I've gotten a recommendation from time to time out of sheer unknowing-ness.

You only get two warnings. And records show that a mod warned you via PM that you were on last chance status. You are banned immediately after your third offense. Three strikes policy.


M

 

[AutoTooned]

I was banned without any warnings. Just up and banned the Initial Racing name. I was warned after I made a stand on the GTPremium deal and then never quetioned it again. I was banned a week or so later out of the blue. And when I Reregistered and asked for an explanation a month later, Jordan just kept quiet.
Its been to my experience that the administration at this forum is less than stellar.

 

[Kent]

I was banned without any warnings. Just up and banned the Initial Racing name. I was warned after I made a stand on the GTPremium deal and then never quetioned it again. I was banned a week or so later out of the blue. And when I Reregistered and asked for an explanation a month later, Jordan just kept quiet.
Its been to my experience that the administration at this forum is less than stellar.

I'm gonna have to disagree.
Not because I am part of the staff, but simply because I know the staff.

If you get banned it is always for a good reason.

 

[///M-Spec]

^ Yep. It didn't take me long to find your "rap-sheet". More than one violation in quick succession means do not pass go, do not collect $200. I would avoid making a fuss of this, since there is plenty of evidence to merit your banning as Initial Racing.


M

 

[pimp racer]

I'm gonna have to disagree.
Not because I am part of the staff, but simply because I know the staff.

If you get banned it is always for a good reason.

I have to agree with you also. AutoTooned you have made very bad comments against GTP. I would go and point out all of the things you have done that are bad but I think you are old enough to find out on your own your mistakes and I hope you have changed your ways. Oh and on the topic of Public Secrecy he did go off topic ALOT! And he did post some non sense also. Other then that I guess he was...alright..compared to new members. Anyways I hope he also has changed him self.

 

[PS]

No, there is no way to find out how many you have. Sure, the moderators could search through at your request, but we won't. Do it once, you have to do it everytime.

To rest assure, if you've not been contacted via PM by a moderator, you haven't been logged.

If you violate the AUP or the TOS, we will warn you directly via PM. You will have the chance to discuss your actions and make reparations, as we don't enjoy banning people and are much happier to work out someones issues and let them turn themselves around.

So don't worry, you won't log in and randomly find yourself banned. Unless, I've been drinking heavily, and I'll ban you for having a silly name


So after two warnings you didn't change your MO, and when we took action you think we should have given you another chance. Now you have your last chance. use it with care.

AO

Unfortunately the 2 warnings were for 2 completely unrelated topics. The first one I think was when S13drifting went apes**t and started screaming at people, and then the second one was...I unno, can't remember.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Unfortunately the 2 warnings were for 2 completely unrelated topics. The first one I think was when S13drifting went apes**t and started screaming at people, and then the second one was...I unno, can't remember.

What logic did you use here? Does that mean you want 2-3 warnings per thread?

 

[PS]

No, they were like 3 months apart.

 

[-Fred-]

Unfortunately the 2 warnings were for 2 completely unrelated topics. The first one I think was when S13drifting went apes**t and started screaming at people, and then the second one was...I unno, can't remember.

That's how it should be. You were warned by M-Spec regarding your avatar (Dubya Assassination Team rigns a bell?), then by me, after acting like an ass in s13drifter's thread. Already there, you were on shaky grounds. Neon_duke asked you to change your title, and for a second time, M-Spec warned you about your behavior in the opinion forum. I don't consider that "2 warnings for 2 completely unrelated topics". And no, before you say it, I've got nothing better to do than check out the logged offenses on your name.

No, they were like 3 months apart.

Again, that's how it works. You get 3 strikes and you're out, no matter how widely separated they are. If you get notified twice of your behavior, don't expect us to play nice and tell you you're about to get banned.

Its been to my experience that the administration at this forum is less than stellar.

Why the hell did you come back, then? Some people...

 

[Sage]

Unfortunately the 2 warnings were for 2 completely unrelated topics.

Well of course. If your warnings were in relation to one topic, it'd probably count as one warning. But since you messed up on two separate occasions, you get two separate warnings. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

[edit]: Wow, I take forever to make posts. Treed!

And AutoTooned/IR, I have to ask the same question: If you hate us so much, why are you still staying?

 

[pimp racer]

And AutoTooned/IR, I have to ask the same question: If you hate us so much, why are you still staying?

Now I am not sure about this but he or she might still be staying to try and make GTP look bad or something who knows what young kids will do?

 

[PS]

That's how it should be. You were warned by M-Spec regarding your avatar (Dubya Assassination Team rigns a bell?), then by me, after acting like an ass in s13drifter's thread. Already there, you were on shaky grounds. Neon_duke asked you to change your title, and for a second time, M-Spec warned you about your behavior in the opinion forum. I don't consider that "2 warnings for 2 completely unrelated topics". And no, before you say it, I've got nothing better to do than check out the logged offenses on your name.



Again, that's how it works. You get 3 strikes and you're out, no matter how widely separated they are. If you get notified twice of your behavior, don't expect us to play nice and tell you you're about to get banned.



Why the hell did you come back, then? Some people...

aaahaha the DAT. Yah i remember that. that's the other one. what happened with the titles though?

 

[Emohawk]

Its been to my experience that the administration at this forum is less than stellar.

What? I think this forum is excelently administrated. They can seem rather harsh in relation to smaller forums, but I believe that is the only way to deal with the amount of crap that they're required to.
OT: If you want to see a real badly administrated forum, go check out drivestreet.com
It's awfull. Unfortunatly I seem to have become addicted...

 

[Taurine]

As had been said elsewhere, moderators don't mind a person making an attempt to try again within the GTP community after a banning and I am proof of that. When my first account was banned I already had another account (a secondary one) that I started using but the moderators cottoned on and banned that one soon afterwards.

Not long after the second banning I registered this account but decided not to post straight away. I knew I was unwelcome and chose to let things slide for a few months before returning with a different attitude.

I let the moderators know right away and I think they're all aware of who I am (at least the mods at the time - I'm not sure of the newer mods) and I have had no troubles with them so far and have had a few good conversations with a mod in the Conversation Forum which I think is brilliant.

 

[Jedi2016]

I've had some experience in Moderation/Administration, and I think the team here is doing quite well considering the sheer size of the forum and the number of members. In fact, I'd probably go so far as to say they've been quite lenient.

It is normal procedure to tell someone when they've broken the rules.. believe it or not, an Admin would much rather keep a member than ban them, and they only do so when they've exhausted all other options. On the forum I Admin at, although it is significantly smaller than this one, we've only ever banned one or two people. Only one comes to mind, but I think there may have been one other since then. And I'm friends with the Admin team of a much larger forum, one that probably rivals GTP in size.. they've banned only five or six people in the entire time I've been there (several years now), and it was always for a good reason.

Autotooned, if you were banned, I'm sure it was for a very good reason.

I haven't been here all that long, but I've seen enough to know that they behave as Admins should, banning only as a last resort. Like EmoHawk said, there are forums out there that are run much worse.. ones where you spend only a day or so there, mutter a "**** this" and leave. GTP is, thankfully, not one of those.

Another thing to remember... while this may be a "public" forum, it's a private website. This is Jordan's place. Think of it as the Trainman in Matrix: Revolutions. He built this place. In here, he makes the rules. In here, he's God. And in the end, a forum (any forum) is, in fact, a dictatorship. This is Jordan's forum. Either play by his rules, or you're gone. It's that simple. But these rules are quite simple. Keep it civilized. Show respect for the other members. That's pretty much it. And I don't think that's too much to ask.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Less than one per cent of members have been warned about anything.

So, if you are warned, you are automatically in the top 1 percentile worst-behaved members in GTP.

If you've been warned twice...

I don't know what the statistics are, but I would guess that less than 10% of all of those who have two warnings remain on GTPlanet. It would seem that, in this case at least, people tend not to reform their behaviour.

 

[Cosmic]

I have 3 warnings, and haven't been banned yet . One for a link to free downloadable mp3 site and the secod for a stupid threa I made. And the last one, I don't think that one is counted, I have to talk about that with sn00pie. My brother made a thread about my mp3. I'll post the link.

[Edit]
The link : https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52526

 

[AutoTooned]

I post in one thread and am one of the top contributors in it where I have no problems with anyone. Who would possibly report me for anything?
I rarely leave that thread. I have also never attacked anyone on this forum, at least not as far as I can remember.
Ive recieved hundreds of PMs, none of which were warnings from the administration. The only one I ever recieved was posted publically. I forget which super mod it was, but he said it was the only way he could think of to notify me. Hey, thats another reason for me to point out how poorly this banning was executed. The only way to notify me? He must not have taken the time to notice that I had several forms of contact listed publically.
When asked any staff member to explain thier motives you get no replies. I even went out of my way to say if I really was being so widely reported (and not just biased against from the administration because I didnt like the gtpremium racket) that they could just ban me from the entire community and just leave my access restricted to the photography and graphics forum.
I guess that was too hard.

Sage, I dont hate this place, Im quite fond of the people who post where I post. I take the time to support thier artwork on and off this site.
Pimp Racer, Im not sure about all this young kid stuff directed at me, seeing that your handle is "Pimp Racer."
PunkRock, it took me a month to decide to reregister, and I only did so because I like keep the discussion going with people in photgraphy and graphics. Some people....
M-Spec, enough of the Monopoly references, lets see it. PM this alleged "rap-sheet" to me any time.
Just remember, there is no three strike policy when the man at bat isnt told of his strike.

 

[Tacet_Blue]

M-Spec, enough of the Monopoly references, lets see it. PM this alleged "rap-sheet" to me any time.
Just remember, there is no three strike policy when the man at bat isnt told of his strike.

Search button broken is it?

If you didn't like the premium service you didn't have to be so spiteful.
You managed to get a warning from the Administrator...that takes some doing
Warning 1

Warning 2

More polite Warnings

Here...search some more and read your own posts...click

Your whole tone is offensive...I know you don't think these mods are tolerant, but I'd ban you now, just for the hell of it.

No one owes you a membership here.

 

[Max Powers]

Sometimes it just seems like it would be easier if banned members weren't allowed to come back at all.

 

[pimp racer]

Pimp Racer, Im not sure about all this young kid stuff directed at me, seeing that your handle is "Pimp Racer."

Ha-Ha that was really funny. Good one man. Any ways I was just thinking you were under 20 because you acted very much like a young teen. Now I can just go on and start flaming you and all this other BS that most people do but I really dont care about this stupid comment from a guy or gal that has a bad reputation. I know you are just trying to stir up some trouble with me so I will just not even bother. I wasnt even gonna reply to this post not becuase I dont have no "come back" or whatever but I was just thinking it would be useless and a waste of good space! Anyways I really dont care what you say about my name and I can say alot of things about your name but as I said I just dont care what you say.

 

[Dave A]

I have a queston with regards to warnings and such, does the lenth of time between warnings have any effect on if you get banned on 3. For example, if I'm a member who's been here for 1 month and I start to spam and flame ect and I get warned and don't stop and keep doing it until I get banned, I deserve it. But say I'm that same member and I do all that, but after my first warning I stop and don't do any of that, then 8-9 months later I get involved in a flame war or something and get a second warning, then another 9-10 months later I do something else, am I banned or is there a time period for warnings like 1 year or something, because any member can in theory be having a bad day say somethng wrong and get a warning.

If not and if theres been an outstanding member who's been here for5 or 6 years just as an example but over thoes 5 or 6 years he's done 3 things that he's been warned for, is it right for him to get banned? Or do you (the mod's) use discernment in some situations?

 

[Tacet_Blue]

This might answer your question L4S

Again, that's how it works. You get 3 strikes and you're out, no matter how widely separated they are. If you get notified twice of your behavior, don't expect us to play nice and tell you you're about to get banned.

As with all things, I'm sure there is quite a bit a discretion used by the mods.

 

[Dave A]

Thanks Tacet I didn't notice that comment.

 

[Kent]

Yes, actually we do use discretion.

Most of the time people who are well know on the forums will end up starting a discussion amongst the mods regarding what actions to take.

In each of those cases we will all usually agree about what course of action to take. However, from time to time we will feel differently about members.

In those cases we go to a more technical level of evaluation.

The bottom line is that we always try to stick to one ethical standard.
It helps us avoid showing favortism and often ends up producing the best results. 👍

So to put it simply... Yes, we do have discretion.

One thing to note though is that when someone has 3 or more offenses the member is usually not a member worth having around.

Although there are always exceptions to the rule and thats why we have discretion!

 

[Der Alta]

I have a queston with regards to warnings and such, does the lenth of time between warnings have any effect on if you get banned on 3. For example, if I'm a member who's been here for 1 month and I start to spam and flame ect and I get warned and don't stop and keep doing it until I get banned, I deserve it. But say I'm that same member and I do all that, but after my first warning I stop and don't do any of that, then 8-9 months later I get involved in a flame war or something and get a second warning, then another 9-10 months later I do something else, am I banned or is there a time period for warnings like 1 year or something, because any member can in theory be having a bad day say somethng wrong and get a warning.

If not and if theres been an outstanding member who's been here for5 or 6 years just as an example but over thoes 5 or 6 years he's done 3 things that he's been warned for, is it right for him to get banned? Or do you (the mod's) use discernment in some situations?

With any long term member the moderators and admin discuss it. A new member that spams an entire forum isn't like to keep things together. If somones been here a long time, we discuss it with the member and find out the full story. Yes, people do have bad days. We consider many aspects of it.

that they could just ban me from the entire community and just leave my access restricted to the photography and graphics forum.

Our choices are banned or not banned. We will not ban someone from one particular forum, they will be banned from GTPlanet entirely.

Considering what Tacet Blue has pointed out to you, consider yourself tolerated. As for notifying you by any means you've posted, the only way we can verify that you've read it, is by PM or in a thread. If we can't verify that you read it or viewed the thread, the warning does no good.

Should you continue to argue this, and not accept our generosity in letting you return, "Doors to your left".

Der Alta