Wasn't 20,000,000 Cr. ENOUGH for an X1? *FACEPALM*

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@ Fastlap:
1. Do you really think I need 3 X1s to break a nurburgring record? Its not like the more X1s you have, the faster you go, that statement of yours had nothing to do with my thread and was completely idiotic.
2. You are saying I have no life for having lots of Cr.? Dude, I give you an advice. Make sure you know the person before saying he has no life. For your information, I'll be finishing my Dentistry soon and I'll end up being a Dental Surgeon. I very much wonder what you do for living. No offense, but personalities usually show one's job and vice-versa. This is funny that you are bashing someone for a fake money in a game. Wonder what you would do if it was real money. ;)

@ Others:
You are right, I can't believe how I missed it haha! :lol: It was honestly because after level 24, Since the highest level required to purchase any car was that level, I wouldn't care looking at the numbers and I could just buy any car after level 24 (or 25?). Sorry for the English, its not my main language. Cheers!
 
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They aren't "free" if you have to win a race to earn it. Also, you get the MINOLTA before you could buy it. This happens a lot in this game that you can own a car which is a higher level than you are allowed to purchase. For some reason, the X2010 seems to stand out above the others.
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By ''free'' I meant that we don't have to pay, but you are right, thats a wrong way to say it, as we obviously don't get it freely.
 
Fastlap
But the X1 just annoys the heck out of me and I can´t really articulate why that is.
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I can. It's that it DOESN'T EXIST...

Might as well go get a XP34 Landspeeder, or a Pod Racer, and race round the Nürbergring. Hey, kids, why not put some rear facing blasters on them as well?! Take care of that pesky Imperial Speeder bike, too!

GT5... the Ultimate Sci Fi Driving Simulator :banghead:
 
And I guess I got the logic behind it. They will show you the car just to make you drool and have a reason to really go all the way to Level 40. If it was just for the sake of that ''Gold Standard'' trophy, I don't think many people would want to go that far. We always need something worthy at the end of it, to make us tolerate the long way for the good cause. Its like seeing a tunnel with a shiny dot at the end of it, which gives you hope for finishing it, rather than seeing an endless tunnel. Am I making any sense? :p
 
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So why not make it a car that exists? Maybe the FXX, or the newer, faster Veyron, or whatever is the ne plus ultra of cars that actually EXIST....

That an imaginary car will go ' point 4 past the speed of light' shouldn't be given the time of day by any serious driving fan. You want to race a fan car... there's one in the game that REALLY EXISTS.

Go drive that.

Leave SciFi to arcade weenies.
 
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@ Fastlap:
1. Do you really think I need 3 X1s to break a nurburgring record? Its not like the more X1s you have, the faster you go, that statement of yours had nothing to do with my thread and was completely idiotic.
2. You are saying I have no life for having lots of Cr.? Dude, I give you an advice. Make sure you know the person before saying he has no life. For your information, I'll be finishing my Dentistry soon and I'll end up being a Dental Surgeon. I very much wonder what you do for living. No offense, but personalities usually show one's job and vice-versa. This is funny that you are bashing someone for a fake money in a game. Wonder what you would do if it was real money. ;)
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1. I don´t know where you read that I assume that more X1´s make you faster. My first point was that I absolutely do not see the need in having three cars of the same type.

2. I would assume that you would need quite some time to grind 20 mil together, this fact coupled with the whining about not being able to buy one, made me write this suggestion.

Now, I am sure yor actual life is quite demanding and that you do not need to get another one, happy?

3. Its just that I really don´t like this car. It has nothing to do with reality and as Destinkeys has brilliantly said it is just like racing a Landspeeder around the ring.
 
@ Fastlap:
1. Some people may not ''need'' something, just ''collect'' them as they are collectors.
2.Thats very true. It took me quiet a long time. Starting January 1st I cant play this game anymore, maybe only ''some'' weekends, so I wanted to get the best of of it before my classes start again. As for others, they won't really try making that money in days, as they always have time to gather up the cash everyday. I'm not going to have that much time in a very near future, so why not do it when I can?
3. I neither get happy by someone on the net saying I have a demanding life, nor upset by the person saying I have no life. This is the internet afterall, its just like the special olympics, whether we win or lose, we will still be retards :p
4. Yes I actually agree on you with this, the car is extremely unrealistic and as I just said, I just want to collect it. I was even disappointed, seeing the new car which was made by PD for the ''Real Driving Simulator'',is a car that doesn't exist in the ''Real'' life.
 
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For the sake of all those who have got to lvl 40 and are no longer collecting XP, I hope this is not the case.
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I honestly don't see them raising the level cap anyway, getting to lvl 40 is already pushing it. Any further levels would required a LOT of time and would most probably need a big increase in experience from current races.
On a side note, it really is too bad that I had to see my 4mil exp from Nurb 24hr go nowhere D=
 
HAHA, and yes it does tell you, no one elses fault for you not noticing.

Just buy a couple of high end cars so the cr you get from races doesn't go to waste. Maybe hover around 17-19mil cr or something. HF getting to 40. :D
 
Destinkeys
I can. It's that it DOESN'T EXIST...

Might as well go get a XP34 Landspeeder, or a Pod Racer, and race round the Nürbergring. Hey, kids, why not put some rear facing blasters on them as well?! Take care of that pesky Imperial Speeder bike, too!

GT5... the Ultimate Sci Fi Driving Simulator :banghead:
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Does the Formula GT piss you off as well? How about the Citroen GT? It was a concept just like the X1/X2010 before they went out and built the real deal. Who's to say that Red Bull won't go out and try to make one? The technology exists, that's the whole point of the experiment. I don't know about specific tires and so forth, but my understanding is that PD and the Red Bull F1 engineers sat in a room and built the most bat**** insane, quickest car they could whilst utilizing current racing technology. Then they plugged in the numbers to GT -- a game regarded for it's simulation (and marketing) abilities -- and let it loose with the reigning F1 Champion behind the wheel.

Who's to say they aren't building one right now? If you were Red Bull, and you were building something insane like that, you'd probably want to wait until the perfect time to announce it. Maybe that's why they changed the name to something that isn't already trademarked?

/Pure speculation (and optimism).
 
Pure bullspit. Plain and simple. They will NEVER build one unless the rules are changed to allow it, and even then, they are going to find all KINDS of things that don't work in real life. Safety might be an issue, too. At the speeds that that thing goes at, imagine the fan motor blowing, and all of a sudden your downforce GONE. The driver dying is the LEAST of their worries. This thing would take off into the stands like a rocket (there's a REASON the fan cars were banned in the first place!).

The FGT is simply an unlicensed copy of an F1 racer, nothing out of the ordinary on it, in fact, quite simple compared to modern F1 with F-ducts and KERS and variable wings. The Citroen WAS made. QED.

But this thing is sci-fi, pure and simple. If F1 design and testing has shown us anything, it is that design something entirely on a computer, and do no real world testing, you are going to end up with a POS that is uncompetitive. Something as radical as this, no amount of computer simulation is going to give you what would be likely to happen IRL. Snapped necks or blackouts by the driver might be a good place to start..!

Just because you put Red Bull's designer in a room with a blank sheet of paper doesn't mean you would ever get a PRACTICAL race car. Might as well ask him to design an anti-gravity car. He'll never have to PROVE it works. And Vettel wouldn't drive it even if he did. Bet he loves life too much for that...!
 
Destinkeys
Pure bullspit. Plain and simple. They will NEVER build one unless the rules are changed to allow it, and even then, they are going to find all KINDS of things that don't work in real life. Safety might be an issue, too. At the speeds that that thing goes at, imagine the fan motor blowing, and all of a sudden your downforce GONE. The driver dying is the LEAST of their worries. This thing would take off into the stands like a rocket (there's a REASON the fan cars were banned in the first place!).

The FGT is simply an unlicensed copy of an F1 racer, nothing out of the ordinary on it, in fact, quite simple compared to modern F1 with F-ducts and KERS and variable wings. The Citroen WAS made. QED.

But this thing is sci-fi, pure and simple. If F1 design and testing has shown us anything, it is that design something entirely on a computer, and do no real world testing, you are going to end up with a POS that is uncompetitive. Something as radical as this, no amount of computer simulation is going to give you what would be likely to happen IRL. Snapped necks or blackouts by the driver might be a good place to start..!

Just because you put Red Bull's designer in a room with a blank sheet of paper doesn't mean you would ever get a PRACTICAL race car. Might as well ask him to design an anti-gravity car. He'll never have to PROVE it works. And Vettel wouldn't drive it even if he did. Bet he loves life too much for that...!
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I think the X1 is cool. Fun ruiner.
 
@Destinkeys- while I agree with the pointlessness of the X1 from the games point of view (think knife to gunfight) it is a theoretical design and therefore a 'concept' and nonetheless deserving of a place in the game.
Also, some of your other points lack a structured defence e.g. the 'reason' fan cars were banned. They were actually banned not due to low level 'flight' fears, but on 2 major points (as far as I know). The danger laid in the fans themselves, if exposed during a crash and call me a cynic, but this was probably only dreamt up because they had too much of an advantage in some areas of racing. I do however stand to be corrected.
The other point I'd argue the toss over is the liklihood that Vettel would indeed test the X1. Yes it would have to be toned down to make it physically durable but the dangers (and G-Forces) would still be as great as in the RB Air Races.
Do consider the designer in this, I think the X1 is a marvellous piece of theoretical engineering, would you have doubted Frank Whittle?

Renrag
 
If I wanted to Pod race, I'd have bought Pod Racer.

Yes, imaginary cars in the 'Real Driving Simulator' makes me cross. If everything ELSE in the game were balanced and free of blunders, OK, I wouldn't mind so much. But it is obvious that ENORMOUS amounts of time and resources have been diverted to this car that is little more than a distraction, while missing gearbox adjustments, balanced online rankings and insufficient A-Spec events show that this was time that was REALLY needed elsewhere.

Gun to a knifefight? More like a tactical nuclear missile to a catfight..!

We have already seen Indy car drivers having severe neck problems on tracks that don't stress the body anywhere NEAR as much as the X1 would. And I have still to hear any attempt to explain what would happen should the fan engine blow (oh, that's right... this is sci-fi. Engines NEVER blow, do they?) and that is ALL that is holding the car down. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be within 300 yrds. of that happening!

There's only ONE place this will ever be driven, and that's on a computer screen. Same as the pod racer. May the Force be with you...
 
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And I have still to hear any attempt to explain what would happen should the fan engine blow (oh, that's right... this is sci-fi. Engines NEVER blow, do they?) and that is ALL that is holding the car down. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be within 300 yrds. of that happening!
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It's clearly not the only thing holding it down, come on, look at the thing! Why would it need a diffuser and a rear wing if the fan is all that's keeping it from flying away? Plus I think you'll find the shape of it will produce downforce, it doesn't look that far off an LMP1 or present-day F1 car, does it? Not to mention it still has weight, it's not like it'll just float off if the fan blows.

And let's not forget the Chapparal 2J surviving an entire season before being banned because it totally dominated the field (not safety concerns, because if anyone cared that much, they could have banned it before it even raced). Oh and McLaren put fans in the F1 (road car, that is), road car meaning it's not serviced after every race like an X2010 would be, yet I don't remember reading about F1's having fan failures which ended in deaths. The fans aren't going to be highly tuned racing engines with 1-weekend lifespans, they're likely just electric motors...

You appear to be assuming a lot without much fact. Going back to your post before this, can you prove that simulators are totally useless when testing F1 cars and upgrade parts? The way I see it, the human race has more than enough knowledge of F1 car and fighter jet development and the effects of high G-forces on extremities and blood circulation, so designing a fictional, hypothetical car isn't a stab in the dark any more, back in the 50's it may have been, but none of this car is sci-fi. Fan cars have been seen before, as have 1,000+bhp engines (1.5 litre turbo F1 cars, for example), and I can't see anything else even remotely outlandish about this. Ok so maybe they've exaggerated the downforce, maybe they haven't, who are we to judge? We aren't aerodynamicists, Adrian Newey is, though.

Oh and you seem happy with the GT by Citroen because they've made one. Just one. They didn't even finish it (have you seen the video where the journalist who goes for a drive in it accidentally pulled the doorhandle off when trying to get out?), and it used an American V8, not the exotic hydrogen generator and four in-hub motor arrangement of the original concept. If they did make an X2010 without the fan and an 800bhp engine instead, would you be satisfied? You also mention the FGT being an unlicensed copy of an outdated F1 car, surely this car is the same? It's an F1 car with a fan (like that Brabham, so it's not a first), but unlike any F1 cars that have existed it has a covered cockpit and front wheels.

I do agree with you, to an extent; I'm only going to use the X2010 for the fixed-length endurance races, but that's all. I just don't think your argument is particularly solid.
 
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Destinkeys
If I wanted to Pod race, I'd have bought Pod Racer.

Yes, imaginary cars in the 'Real Driving Simulator' makes me cross. If everything ELSE in the game were balanced and free of blunders, OK, I wouldn't mind so much. But it is obvious that ENORMOUS amounts of time and resources have been diverted to this car that is little more than a distraction, while missing gearbox adjustments, balanced online rankings and insufficient A-Spec events show that this was time that was REALLY needed elsewhere.

Gun to a knifefight? More like a tactical nuclear missile to a catfight..!

We have already seen Indy car drivers having severe neck problems on tracks that don't stress the body anywhere NEAR as much as the X1 would. And I have still to hear any attempt to explain what would happen should the fan engine blow (oh, that's right... this is sci-fi. Engines NEVER blow, do they?) and that is ALL that is holding the car down. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be within 300 yrds. of that happening!

There's only ONE place this will ever be driven, and that's on a computer screen. Same as the pod racer. May the Force be with you...
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Waaah, where'd my micro violin go so I can play it for you. . .
 
If the X1 only managed the speed in the corners that the Chaparral generates, then you've got a point. But what we are looking at here are cornering speeds COMPLETELY unobtainable with passive downforce and vastly higher than the Chaparral.

After all, that's the whole POINT of the concept, isn't it..? Not that straight line speed needs increasing, but cornering, where downforce from passive means diminishes because of the slow speed. A catastrophic failure of the fan engine when cornering at the VASTLY increased cornering speeds that the fan gets you means the car now takes off like a rocket.

The Chaparral in the game is too slow, even with the fan, to be very competitive. But the X1 makes a mockery of even the F1 cars. Failure at speeds FAR too high for passive downforce to save the car implies a huge level of risk to the driver AND the spectators. Look how uncontrollable and dangerous F1 cars become if they lose even their passive downforce (lose a wing in a shunt, for instance) now... Now multiply that by the huge increase in speed that the X1 postulates. You are living on Naboo if you think that this will ever be raced.

And yes, I would be as against the Citroen if it was twice as fast as anything else in the game.

BTW, I'll play my violin at your funeral should you ever get in an X1 💡
 
And as all X1 threads inevitably do, this one gets locked. Especially as it's gone off the rails faster than a hockey puck on "comfort tires".

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