Well this isn't right

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It seems to me that the exhaust is perfect for racing.The tail lights remind me of a older cougar and the body,retro Can-Am car.The rear wing mount needs work,but,if they plan on racing it they will need a big wing. Just look at the GTS,GT cars in the ALMS. The head lights need a rethink,but over all it is not a bad car.It would look great on the track. We will just have to wait and see if anything comes from all of this.



I'm looking at this from a racing point of veiw.A street version would have to be tamed down a bit.
 
I think I could tolerate the colour if you got rid of that hood and added some black racing stripes.
 
The more I look at it the more I like it, except for the headlights. Compare the wing to the one on the Denso Supra or the Calsonic Skyline. What's the difference? And who says adjustable downforce is even legal in the calss they're trying to homologate to? If they're looking to get a grassroots racing series organized or look into some particular class, fixed aerodynamics may well be mandatory.

See those big pipes sticking out under the door of the '70 Trans-Am Boss Mustang up there? They look about the same size, and they sure as heck ain't for show...

And to paraphrase milefile, the car-snobbery around here is freaking apalling.

If that thing had a Nissan badge on the front and people were saying it's next year's Skyline, there would be dozens of keyboards needing disinfectant already. What hypocritical crap!
 
It works both ways if that car were a honda we would never hear the end of the rice comments. I can honestly say the even if that car was a skyline I still wouldn't like it. The skyline GTR concept is a perfect example, 99% of GTR enthusiasts I speak to hate it, even though it's a Nissan. Each person is entitled to their own opinion without having their opinon labled as "hypocritical crap" just becasue they disagree with you.

If I had to chose between them, I would choose the one VIPERGTRS01 posted.
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
Each person is entitled to their own opinion without having their opinon labled as "hypocritical crap" just becasue they disagree with you.
Of course they are.

However, most of the complaints centered around the CF hood and the wing, both of which are in widespread use among racing circles and both of which are remarkably similar to those found on an R34 GTR (don't criticize me if I didn't get the name perfect; it's not critical to the discussion) - where they are loved by anyone who likes Skylines. And if it was an NSX that was designed for the $75k-$100k racecar market, I wouldn't complain about rice at all.

In fact, I'll go so far as to say that this Mustang looks more like a classic Skyline than the new Skyline prototype/concepts do.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Of course they are.

However, most of the complaints centered around the CF hood and the wing, both of which are in widespread use among racing circles and both of which are remarkably similar to those found on an R34 GTR (don't criticize me if I didn't get the name perfect; it's not critical to the discussion) - where they are loved by anyone who likes Skylines. And if it was an NSX that was designed for the $75k-$100k racecar market, I wouldn't complain about rice at all.

In fact, I'll go so far as to say that this Mustang looks more like a classic Skyline than the new Skyline prototype/concepts do.

True, the R34 Vspec II comes with a CF hood from the factory but it's more subltle an painted over, and the spoiler is quite large on the JGTC skylines, but the street from is nowhere near that of the mustang. So if it were on a racing only car then yes they would have purpose, but that still doesn't change the fact that I don't like the car. If you saw a skyline rolling around the street in JGTC form with the huge widebody and enormous spoiler roll cage etc. there would be lots of confusion and talk also. Perhaps the misconception among most of the people here is that they expect the car to be used for street use, which it obviously is not. The one VIPERGTSR01 posted would most likely be its street form which I find more appealing. I just don't like the way the spoiler comes out of the bumper on the first one or the lights. I don't dislike it for the hood, or huge spoiler, I dislike it becasue the entire design doesn't appeal to my tastes.

As for the classic looks, I recall an article in one of my road and track (I think it was R&T) magazines stating that ford wanted to make a retro looking car. Especially since that seems to be the trend among american car companies with the PT cruiser, the SSR etc. Bringing back the look of the old days with a futuristic twist.
 
The Mustang is not in the same category as the SSR or the PT. The Mustang style the latest generation is drawing from has none of the old body style trappings that so-called "retro" cars have. The new Mustang, although it looks like an older version, still looks more up to date than the most recent body does. I see no problem with a company recycling and modifying designs, especially when those designs are clearly better than what they're replacing.
 
This car is clearly not intended for street use and its customers are clearly going to be club racers and pro teams. The sidepipes alone should tell you it isn't going to make the assembly line (not going to pass emissions). Ford will probably require a valid SCCA competition license to even buy one, just like they did with the Cobra R.

I like it. It has the brutal honesty of a track machine. It would look absolutely the business in all black. The LED lights will probably be dropped for production.

We could see this car in Grand Am.


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Originally posted by ///M-Spec
This car is clearly not intended for street use and its customers are clearly going to be club racers and pro teams.

I like it. It has the brutal honesty of a track machine.
What he said. I would laugh at somebody driving a race-looking NSX or Supra or Mustang on the street. This car is intended to get its knuckles bloody and is nothing about appearance.

Please note that I'm not saying you can't dislike it. I'm just saying that a large number of the complaints have come from people who would pop a serious stiffy and talk endlessly about how awesome it was, if only it came from Japan.

Someone would actually prefer a Sentra SE-R to that beast? There's only one word that comes to mind, and it's forbidden by the AUP. But picture Mike Tyson's voice.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Someone would actually prefer a Sentra SE-R to that beast? There's only one word that comes to mind, and it's forbidden by the AUP. But picture Mike Tyson's voice.

:lol: I don't hate it that much, give me the stang over any Sentra :)
 
I would change a couple things about it. I'd fix the headlights some by removing that bar right accross the center, and I'd remove that metal plate that the pipes stick out of. It's black on Vipers. It should be whatever color the car is so all you see is a shiny, metal hole. I'd probably paint the hood, too.

But of course I'd take just the way it is, spoiler and all. I love those rims.
 
💡 I can't understand why everyone hates the hood ,because anyone who buy's this for racing is going to paint it.If they offered it to me,I would take one.:trouble: 👍
 
To each is own on opinions
 
This Mustang GT-R must be taking cues from the Tokyo Xtreme Racer series with its small headlights. I didn't want anyone saying, "this is an American car, not a rice rocket!" I know that. If I was talking about such a thing, I'd tell you. Anyhow, someone at Ford must have been thinking "60s Mustangs are the coolest. Why not bring back the glory days?" And in so, that Mustang came to be. To know what the hell I'm talking about, I'll get this car book I got for Christmas...

(finds book)

Alright, a book by Bill Reynolds called "The Complete Book of Sports Cars" features the 1966 Shelby GT350 and 1667 GT500. I think the newer Mustang looks more modern, but pays homage to its ancestors. I've always thought the GT500 was more powerful. But anyhow, with the newer Mustang "GT-R" so to speak, I say that it is about time a Mustang gets into the racing scene. I know Mustangs are still raced in Trans-Am (or are they?), but I think this Mustang will bring back the Trans-Am days of the 60s. But the one thing I would change is the headlights. And if you want to make it stand out, add two additional lights like on the GT500, only thing is, instead of having the two auxiallry lights in the center, space them out so that the two aux. headlights are near the main headlights. That way, it can even sub as an endurance racing car with its lights.

But for the most part... call me crazy, but, I like this GT-R Mustang. I'd also like it see it in Grand-Am. At least, Grand-Am Cup. If they want to make it a great race car, challenge the Corvettes and Ferrari 550s in the ALMS. But, I think this car is like those throwback basketball and baseball jerseys- a classic reborn. Good one, Ford.
 
Originally posted by kikkoman
:yuck:

rather have one of these...

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Yay! Go Falcon! Even better with a turbo whacked on though.
 
For some strange reason im attracted to this car lol, im probably the only person that finds the front nice cause it looks liek the Shelby GT500 from "Gone in 60 Seconds". I must give props to Ford for letting some people remember its ancestors though, i can't say its a bad looking car, i prefer it over the Mustangs out right now.

o and...

1. This car can't be compared to McFly's DeLorean, this will never be as cool as The DeLorean! =D

2. Don't flame me and my opinions in anyway, thx.
 
I think that the car should have had the big front lights of the classic Mustangs of the 1960s and the stock models of the 2005 Mustang. Don't have JGTC-style headlights. That kind of kills the GT-R Mustang at the front. I think if the tail lights looked almost the same as the 1960s Mustangs, that would make it look better in the back. But in a way, the side bodywork and stuff kind of remind me of the Saleens I seen at the Houston Auto Show. And "rib rocket?" Ha! An anti-Japanese car fan would say that "at least this thing has POWER, unlike your Celica/Eclipse/Civic/(whatever car of mention)." However, I think that street models of this GT-R would very likely to be made once this car starts getting some media attention. Saleen will likely stylize the 2005 Mustang model to come up with performance-bound models of the latest Mustang, based on the Mustang GT-R. And who knows? Maybe Kenny Brown will come up with a new Mustang CSR (Club Sport Racer) based on it. It would be a great asset to the American performance car market for sure, in my view.
 
I'm in the minority, I guess, because I really like the Mustang GT-R. The color is a little obnoxious, but paint isn't a huge issure. If you really don't like the color, drop 1500 bucks (if you can afford a 'Stang GT-R, you can afford a nice paint job...) on a high quality paint job, and have whatever color car you want. Personally, I'd love to have the car in black, with a bare carbon hood, and the exhaust plates painted. A bit of dark tint on the windows, and you have one seriously intimidating car, with the performance to back up the looks.
 
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