What are your most difficult Nurburgring sections?

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Mine are

1) Adenauer Frost - I hate the jump and some cars lose balance easily here.

2) The right hand turn at Bergwerk - So BLIND ?!?!?!

3) Schwalbenschawn - I just can't figure out when the right hand turn begins...

Tips appreciated :D
 
I'm an awful driver and don't race on Nurb often, so I struggle with most of them unless I have the driving line to warn me. I think the only place I'm consistently good at is the Carousel.
 
I also find these sections hard, and I'm afraid I don't have any tips, but I am trying to get better on this as I want to do the 4hr endurance!

Famine's thread on the 4hr race in the Race Reports forum is a good read and does include some tips, notably here.

I'm still trying to get the circuit in the practice mode for doing the AMG Intermediate Special, I'm stuck at around 7:40 when I need to get under 7:35!
 
Carousel, I always have to go up high and take the outside line, if I go on the inside line I always lose control, especially in a RWD car.
 
The whole track. I cant do one clean lap, but I do know my way around the first half, but not enough to ditch the driving line.
 
The last High speed section, especially in a rear wheel drive car as it goes really twitchy. Also the really technical first few corners.
 
cool, love this. basically GT5 is a nordschliefe sim for me.

Adenauer Forst is tough for me too. i'm not consistent about it, but i'm much better now than before. the key for me is clipping the kerb at the 2nd apex on the left hand slow turn before the last turn and exit. if i can touch the kerb just right there and maintain my speed between 65-70mph then i'm doing alright. the biggest lesson i learned here is to be patient on the throttle coming out of that turn. on and quickly off a bit so you don't understeer through the last turn & exit.

for some reason, once i clicked with Bergwerk, i haven't had any real problem with this one. the lesson for me was to brake early a bit before you enter, and then brake lightly twice to maintain the line. so, three brake taps do it for me. if you don't maintain the line you'll be on negative camber and lose it.

Schwalbenschwanz... yes i am not consistent here either. the entry is the key. this is one section where it seems you can't be too ambitious with absolute speed but must maintain an average. if my entry is slightly too fast i'll be struggling and messy all the way through Kleines Karussell.

now i'm just trying to find my max speed, grip, and braking needs at Galgenkopf. not so hard, just don't know my limits yet.


Aremberg.. this is my current project. it's not 'hard' per se, but getting entry speed and downforce coordinated is tough at the limit... gotta know the car really well. in high speed cars it seems i'm able to hold it together at 185mph here before hard braking. maintaining the balance & line into the slow apex is testing my timing right now.

simple as it is, if i'm not really focused then Eiskurve gets me due to the off camber bit just before heading uphill.
 
Dont know the name, but the one that used to get me all the time is a moderate left turn at a crest, right after a stretch of full throttle. I would always turn too late and fly off the track, sliding through the grass along the next straight that leads to a tight right hander. I see a lot of other people make the same mistake online. Wish I knew the track sections by name, not sure if anyone will know where Im talking about by description alone.
 
The final corner is very awkward because its flat. I always end up hitting the wall on the inside or going wide into the grass and then being out of control as I pass the finish line.
 
Schwedenkreuz and Füschrohre, both not-so-hard when driving at normal pace but very difficult when trying to nail a perfect lap.
Those parts alone are enough to mess up the lap.

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How could I forget Bergwerk...by far the trickiest corner on the Ring, and the corner which has killed many.
I've stopped hotlapping the Ring just because of this corner, lost some perfect laps at that spot, extremly tricky blind corner.
 
JaySin85
Dont know the name, but the one that used to get me all the time is a moderate left turn at a crest, right after a stretch of full throttle. I would always turn too late and fly off the track, sliding through the grass along the next straight that leads to a tight right hander. I see a lot of other people make the same mistake online. Wish I knew the track sections by name, not sure if anyone will know where Im talking about by description alone.
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I think you're talking about Füschrohre. ;)
 
mattythedog
The whole track. I cant do one clean lap, but I do know my way around the first half, but not enough to ditch the driving line.
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Same! I like the track a lot, but if you muck up...it's gonna end in tears!
 
I found this section as one of the hardest for a LONG time and FINALLY got it down... At the end of Dottinger Hohe (sp) after the slight left bend and the loose snaking corners after... Especially when driving fast cars, coming down from 180+ while keeping control and balancing the car for the 2nd to last corner.... and then yeah, that last corner is a PAIN!!!

Most of the track it tough overall... It feels impossible to memorize the entire track (Ive played this A LOT) and what I have an issue with the most with memory is there are some segments that look like others and I loose track of exactly where I am...

Those of you running the driving line... get rid of it.... You WONT learn that track with it... If you have issues the BEST way I have found is just slow down. A track this long, running cautiously will provide better times than driving on the edge of reckless... Run practice on the track and Sunday drive it... just relax and cruise... go for a clean lap... then try to slowly beat your own ghost... That, the 4 hr endurance (though I havent finished that yet) and also the AMG Driving Academy will all help with this track...

Again, that driving line does more harm than good! First of all its annoying, Second it doesnt always show the best line or even a practical one, Third when using it you spend more time watching the line than the scenes and markers on the track to know where your at

** I am NOT an expert on this track by any stretch of the imagination but I do love it when I feel like spending time in A-Spec and have nothing else to do
 
Wehrseifen is the only corner that gives me problems and thats ony in unstable cars.
 
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Energizerrr
Schwedenkreuz and Füschrohre, both not-so-hard when driving at normal pace but very difficult when trying to nail a perfect lap.
Those parts alone are enough to mess up the lap.

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How could I forget Bergwerk...by far the trickiest corner on the Ring, and the corner which has killed many.
I've stopped hotlapping the Ring just because of this corner, lost some perfect laps at that spot, extremly tricky blind corner.
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I got a problem with Schwedenkreuz too, you can't trust the driving line because you have to brake before the hill, and the corner after Dottinger hohe, it always got me if I'm driving high powered car. But still this is my FAVORITE track
 
In the beginningI had problems to learn the track, especially the whole section between Karussel and Dottinger Hohe. Now I found a clean racing line and it's important to brake at the perfect moment, just when the shift-indicator is blinking (driving with bumper-cam), I pitch the left pedal immediately.
With this "tool" I don't need the racing-line option to learn the tracks/courses.
 
Schwedenkreuz - and that's it. Kallenhard and Galgenkopf can be occasionally painful but I have no sure idea of how to take Schwedenkreuz properly in any car. Sometimes when I go flat one time in a car it disorientates me for another and it is terribly annoying. Other than that I'm largely fine with the track - managed to gold the AMG Academy Beginner and Intermediate so far.
 
Berg and the Scwalb for me. I actually only just started driving it for the 4 hour endurance there. I had to use the map and place arrow stickers on my TV to remind me of some spots after I would consistently get caught out. My short term memory sucks so I avoided this place for so long. Definitely helped marking the tough spots.
 
For me it depends a lot on the car i'm driving. Some cars forexample tend to get unsettled at the Fuchsröhre and that makes the following Adenauer Forst harder as well. Bergwerk can be hard on some cars as well but then some cars seem to hug the road there. Karussell and the last corner before the Döttinger Höhe can also be tricky on some cars.

I don't know the names of the corners by the heart by the way. I'm using this. :)
 
Lol that thread is worth reading just for the names being given to the sections and turns xD


if you dont know where you are stop by the green signs along the track (they are actually signs in Germany for really small villages), so you know where you're just heading to.

http://www.saufbach.de/Bilder/Rennstre/Nurburgr/nordschleife1500_1.jpg
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as for the topic, I dont like Galgenkopf, Hoche Acht and Bergwerk, not in real life nor in any game which contains the NS.


and theres a jump at Adenauer Forst? You're not supposed to jump the curbs or you'll look like most of these guys and people will laugh at you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipqRXwfSLzU
 
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Wipperman. Fast combinations, narrow and downhill.
Also, the Schwedenkreutz is very tricky with road cars with less than perfect damping.
 
The Schwedenkreutz. You never know if you should brake, go on low throttle or full throttle. Even the racing line doesn't tell you.
 
Nish_280z
Wehrseifen is the only corner that gives me problems and thats ony in unstable cars.
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i love this corner. the braking here is plain awesome... so fast, pulling g's, slight off camber during braking followed by seat-of-your-pants full throttle also slightly off camber. this is the one corner on that track where i feel like i'm about to fly off into infiniti. :dopey:
 
noisiaturismo
The Schwedenkreutz. You never know if you should brake, go on low throttle or full throttle. Even the racing line doesn't tell you.
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so true. if you don't know your cars finer aero behavior, then you're going to the grass or the wall.

some cars barely handle it even at moderate speeds. last night i did that stretch perfectly in my 787B at about 190mph. i never would have known that was possible without finding the limits by basically hitting the wall over and over. in the 787B i'm approaching it at around 215mph, tap the brake firmly just before the crest to increase downforce, and smoothly on throttle over the crest, hitting WOT just after, then to brake.
 
The first jumping spot(forgot the exact name of that section)at which you enter at the speed of more than 250km/h with a LMP car, have had bitter experience that got me to swallow my tears a lot of times, particularly when I did a time trial with Formula 1 in GT4. :(
 
Flugplatz gets me sometimes and Schwedenkreuz. Both are really hard corners, espacially in Road Cars without Downforce.
Pflanzgarten II is also a thrilling one if you drive very fast Cars (Road or Race).

Apart from above Corners I just have a problem getting a perfect Lap together. I know I can drive all sectors but all sectors in one Lap is almost undoable for me. 2-4 minor mistakes all the Time, but thats the "Green Hell" :D
 

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