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Did it in the XJ. Took like 7 attempts, but finally got it. The 2J will be your challenge. If bob hits the wall on the first chicane start over
 
This race is really too stupid.. Achieved 2nd place 4 times now. The first time Bob got in 2nd on the 3rd lap, and bumped into the 2J several times instead of just overtaking.. Driver is lvl 20, and the car is the Toyota 7 tuned..

EDIT: 2nd for the 5th time... This time he actually got in 1st... But you know... He was too kind to the 2J and let him get past again... I'm not frustrated at all.. I've only spent almost 4 hours on this :)...........................

2nd EDIT: Nailed it comfortably with the Toyota 7.. But with lots of luck. The 2J had to hit the wall a few times, before Bob dared to take the lead.. L.Gibson isn't as bada$$ as Mel Gibson :(
 
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niceness-dk
This race is really too stupid.. Achieved 2nd place 4 times now. The first time Bob got in 2nd on the 3rd lap, and bumped into the 2J several times instead of just overtaking.. Driver is lvl 20, and the car is the Toyota 7 tuned..

EDIT: 2nd for the 5th time... This time he actually got in 1st... But you know... He was too kind to the 2J and let him get past again... I'm not frustrated at all.. I've only spent almost 4 hours on this :)...........................
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Do I trade for the 2D/J, Minolta, or the toyota 7?
 
Bobtehblob
YESSSSS! I've finally won it! Wow that was a hard slog won by 8 seconds in the end :grumpy:. As your car is miles faster then the rest but B-spec bob doesn't perform to well in traffic -_-. But I will post my full setup to help anyone else going for it :)

Car: Toyota 7 Race Car '70

Aerodynamics: Front 60 Rear 85
Turbo Kits: High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Transmission: 260kmh Top speed
Suspension:
1.Height: -30mm Front and Rear
2.Dampers (Extension): 10 Front and Rear
3.Dampers (Compression): 9 Front and Rear
Wheel Alignment: Camper Angle: 1.5 Front and Rear

That's the setup I used to win and anything not mentioned was left default or unchanged. This setup worked first try for me all though there's no guarantees it will work for you sorry. My B-Spec driver was level 21 at the time.

Hope this helps people out :)
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Thanks mate!
I used this on my Bob who even had an up arrow :p
I won by 26 seconds on Cote D' Azur:tup:
The 2J had some really bad luck and placed 9, I think.
Deep Forest went even better.
Thanks again and hello Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO CN.AR750106 '65.
 
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Bobtehblob
YESSSSS! I've finally won it! Wow that was a hard slog won by 8 seconds in the end :grumpy:. As your car is miles faster then the rest but B-spec bob doesn't perform to well in traffic -_-. But I will post my full setup to help anyone else going for it :)

Car: Toyota 7 Race Car '70

Aerodynamics: Front 60 Rear 85
Turbo Kits: High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Transmission: 260kmh Top speed
Suspension:
1.Height: -30mm Front and Rear
2.Dampers (Extension): 10 Front and Rear
3.Dampers (Compression): 9 Front and Rear
Wheel Alignment: Camper Angle: 1.5 Front and Rear

That's the setup I used to win and anything not mentioned was left default or unchanged. This setup worked first try for me all though there's no guarantees it will work for you sorry. My B-Spec driver was level 21 at the time.

Hope this helps people out :)
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Used this tune for the Deep Forest race and won the race by a landslide. Total time was 12:27.511 minutes and +20.330 seconds lead on the competition. The only thing I did differently was bump the transmission upto 174 MPH, but even with that setting, the car was bouncing off the rev limiter in 5th gear at 158 MPH every time it got on a straight-a-way. Unfortunately, I wasn't as lucky with the Cote D' Azur race, I tried 4 times and the best I netted was a 2nd place. I'm gonna take a break from it now and focus on some A-Spec races because Bob is really pissing me off right now...
 
Ok so I guess my plan of using a fully tuned XJ-13 is out the window for this one...is it actually possible to win Monaco in the Jag or should I just get the Toyota 7 first from Like The Wind before attempting it?

Also I think Bob is used to his X1 abit too much at the moment, anything else hes useless in. :P
 
Bobtehblob
YESSSSS! I've finally won it! Wow that was a hard slog won by 8 seconds in the end :grumpy:. As your car is miles faster then the rest but B-spec bob doesn't perform to well in traffic -_-. But I will post my full setup to help anyone else going for it :)

Car: Toyota 7 Race Car '70

Aerodynamics: Front 60 Rear 85
Turbo Kits: High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Transmission: 260kmh Top speed
Suspension:
1.Height: -30mm Front and Rear
2.Dampers (Extension): 10 Front and Rear
3.Dampers (Compression): 9 Front and Rear
Wheel Alignment: Camper Angle: 1.5 Front and Rear

That's the setup I used to win and anything not mentioned was left default or unchanged. This setup worked first try for me all though there's no guarantees it will work for you sorry. My B-Spec driver was level 21 at the time.

Hope this helps people out :)
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Those suspension settings helped me lots, thanks:)

I changed the gearing to the longest possible and used the standard turbo though which helped alot more with traction out of the slow bends. Shame we can't adjust the individual gears....this race would be simple then.
 
Bobtehblob
YESSSSS! I've finally won it! Wow that was a hard slog won by 8 seconds in the end :grumpy:. As your car is miles faster then the rest but B-spec bob doesn't perform to well in traffic -_-. But I will post my full setup to help anyone else going for it :)

Car: Toyota 7 Race Car '70

Aerodynamics: Front 60 Rear 85
Turbo Kits: High RPM Range Turbo Kit
Transmission: 260kmh Top speed
Suspension:
1.Height: -30mm Front and Rear
2.Dampers (Extension): 10 Front and Rear
3.Dampers (Compression): 9 Front and Rear
Wheel Alignment: Camper Angle: 1.5 Front and Rear

That's the setup I used to win and anything not mentioned was left default or unchanged. This setup worked first try for me all though there's no guarantees it will work for you sorry. My B-Spec driver was level 21 at the time.

Hope this helps people out :)
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Nice, just won it by 15 seconds with this setup.
 
I used a 330P4 with the sacrilegious turbo addon....The first time I tried it my Bon was class 14 and the best he can muster was 5th. I went through other races then came back for it when he is class 17 and he raced well and ran down all that was ahead of him....I actually had more complaint for the 2J in front than Bob himself, the 2J always hit the wall at the chicane and blocks the road...
 
Won these using a Jag XJ13 and a level 16 - 17ish driver. I could easily coach him into 2nd every single race. Even uncoached he usually got a 3rd or 4th by himself with an occasional 2nd. A Toyota 7 ALWAYS won.

My winning races were both lucky draws. The good drivers weren't in the best cars, and there was only one Toyo 7, which started well back in the pack.

My Jag had whatever few tuning options were available to buy for it, with no actual setup done other than whatever top speed seemed appropriate for the track, and I think ride height lowered a bit on both ends.

So, you CAN gold these races with the Jag, but it's gotta be a very fortuitous set of circumstances.
 
Pedal-Force
So does anyone have hints/clues/advice/tunes for Monaco/Cote d Azur in the Toyota 7 in b-spec?

My guy destroyed the first race, but can't seem to do better than 5th at Monaco. There just isn't anywhere to pass and he sucks at passing/driving in traffic anyway.
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I noticed that my driver (level 25 at the time) was faster with my first attempt in the Jaguar vs. the 7 race car. But the Jag just wouldn't do it at Monaco (but did eventually win at D.F. :sly:). So I used a 330 P4 to win at Monaco, default settings, just changed the gear ratio to accommodate the track. Good luck as I think that is turning out to be the hardest b-spec series.

Jerome
 
Yeah, I finally got it done. Used a level 25 as well I think, using my Toyota 7. Took a couple tries and some luck and some good tactics, but he got it done.

He's been cruising through everything else. Currently doing Indy 500 for the 5th or so time. I'll start them on another Indy in the morning, unless it's enough XP to get to the next level endurance race.
 
2J or Toyota 7, I had the 7, in about my 10th try I had some luck because there was only one 2J, and he spun twice, putting him in last and off my threat radar.

Just keep the driver in the middle of the "Hot" zone, and he'll most likely win (depending on that pesky 2J)
 
A tip for some who gave up and skipped this event consider coming back to it with a class 30 driver. I didn't do this event with a high driver class as i passed it awhile ago with the Toyota 7, but i have noticed a significant overtaking/driving ability for my class 30 driver. At this point i think their overall variety of skill sets is high enough to win at things they couldn't manage before. (not that i have tried this event to see what happens again and how easier it is). But i think particularly a high green bar for "accuracy" will help a lot in Monaco.
 
I thought I would like to share my results along with my specs and reasoning behind my specs.

First off on my very first try I took 5th place using the 2D with bob at a very very low lvl. So I waited till I had bob to lvl 20 and then had another go at in the Toyota 7 Race Car

On my first try I took 2nd place with a 0.378 gap behind the 2J Race Car which I had to do quite a bit of catching up to. From lap 4 all the way to the end I was tailing him. I put a 25.4 second lead on the next person behind me which was the P4.

My 2 biggest recommendations would be 1 if you see the 2J anywhere near the front just give up. I am not sure if there is ever a case that he is not in the group but if that ever happens then just pray your race goes well and you don't hit the barrier.

Now as far as backing off or not passing in the tunnel well you really dont have any control over this anyways. If you give the command to slow down he doesn't actually slow down and if he is close enough to any car he will get in the passing position and then SMACK!!!

These where my thoughts
 
forgot the thoughts

If you gear your car so that you are hitting the rev limiter all the way down the tunnel you will be less likely to pass someone. This theory works very well and gives you tons of acceleration everywhere else.

I also tried with tons of downforce hoping for higher speeds through the larger sweepers so that I could get some passes in the sweepers and this also worked out.

These where my settings.
HP 926HP

Downforce: 60/70

Transmission: 155MPH you will hit the red limiter earlier than this since PD are idiots and in GT5 as well as GT4 the top speed thing is actually wrong!

LSD: Default 10/40/20 If anyone has any thoughts on making this better and can deeply explain why they changed something then let me know but be prepared to thoroughly explain exactly why you did something and the outcome.

Suspension:
Ride Height: 0/0 (see no reason to lower this)
Spring Rate: 13.8/15.8
Extension: 10/10
Compression: 8/8 my theory is you want the car to come down easier than it goes back up so that it does not hop.
Roll Bars: 5/7 (the AI has amazing control over spinning out so you don't have to worry about setting the rear to high don't set the front to high or you may understeer 5 may even be to high)

Wheel Alignment:
Camber 3.2/1.2 (I wouldn't recommend any higher on the rear hell I think I may even have it too high remember more camber = more spinning tires sometimes and we all know the computer knows how to do that a lot)
Toe Angle: 0/0.25 (I see no reason to adjust this the .25 was for me not the AI I just left it. I don't believe you will see any improvement from increasing this for the AI as it has god like stability to begin with. The AI just simply does NOT spin out.)

Well that is that I am about to give it another go with one step higher in the top speed and a notch more downforce in the rear however this isn't going to get me the win... I had the win if the 2J didn't exist so I think that is the key make sure the 2J is in the rear or not there! Also I am guessing the Toyota 7 could be a hard one to go against if he is at the top!
 
WOOT!!!
I didn't change the downforce just adjusted the speed up one notch and the 2J started in the rear. The scary thing is the 2J passed me right away but then I passed all but the ford mark iv and the gt40 in the first lap. Then on the first turn of the 2nd lap I passed the mark then it took me till the 3rd turn on the 4th lap to pass the ford gt40.

Now on the first 4 laps I did just in case select pace down in the tunnel especially knowing my car was going to be going faster. However the car still got into passing position which was scary he barely made it through the hole. My I am guessing that with extra down force and proper handling he barely slips through as there where no accidents on the previous run either.

BTW
Top speed in gearing was set to 162mph

I think that is one of the most important factors of the race along with the downforce and front camber!
 
BTW
Top speed in gearing was set to 162mph

I think that is one of the most important factors of the race along with the downforce and front camber!
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Im not sure the gearing is to be honest as several people have tried completely different settings with very effective results.

I had mine set to 278mph and he only users 2nd/3rd mainly. This gives far better traction out of slow bends(in 2nd) and it doesn't allow the b-spec guy to keep changing gear all the time like they do,lol. My guy won by 22 seconds with this gear setting:)

Anyway im glad it worked for you.
 
Bob lvl 20, orange arromw poiting down

1st Race : Toyota 7 + fully tuned. Start the race, go take a shower and when you'll be done, your bob will be 1st.

2nd race : Toyota 7 + fully tuned + shorter gear ratio. I was able to take the 1st position by lap 7/8. Lap 8, I had to pace down to make sure Bob would screw up.

Race 2 moslty rely on luck. Depending if the Chaparral 2J is ahead at the start, it will be hard to catch up.
You also rely on others mistakes. After the long straight going up, in front of the Grand Hotel of Monaco, AI tend to do 360... blocking you and making you loose precious seconds.
Same **** happens at the chicane after the tunnel
And same **** can also happen at the last chicane before the starting line...


An easy way to win the Monaco race is to get the Chaparral 2J.
You can get it used for 14.000.000, or used the birthday trick.
Once you get it, tuned it with the stage 3 turbo and do the race.
Even the stupidiest Bob should be 1st by 1st lap.
 
Well after 4 tries, I got the gold on Deep Forest, first was 5th, then 3rd, then 2nd, and finally won it beating the 2J and Toyota 7. I used a Ferrari 330 P4, with the following tune:

Turbo 3
downforce = max
gear ratio = 186mph
initial torque = 14
accel sensitibity = 50
braking sens = 28
ride height = -30 both
sprint rate, 17 F, 14.5 R
dampers ext = 7 both
dampers comp = 6 both
anti roll = 5 both
camber = 2.3 F, 1.5 R
Toe = 0 F, 0.40 R

I overtook the 2J at the beginning of lap 9 though, had the Toyota 7 the whole race.

EDIT: Just beat the second track as well, took 5 tries though.
 
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I just beat monaco by 23 seconds, even ahd to pass another 2j to get the lead. I could not be happier.

Chap 2J + stage 3 turbo, suspension fully lowered, springs and dampers at max, 5 front 1.9 rear camber.
 
Killed 2nd race in Toyota with basic settings of 1st posting set up.
coming 1st after 5th lap, even after crashing.
Just dont over take in tunnel...
Level 31 driver though.
240 KM top speed, nothing else needed.

Good luck! Going back to 9 hr endurance :)
 
Tried the 2nd race again after leveling up one of my drivers to 26. Wow, he drove the track ALOT better, passing like a pro. Bob and the 2J were in the 1 and 2 spots, well ahead of the pack, with Bob about 10 seconds ahead of the 2J after 4 laps. Also used Medium racing tires, was using hard tires before. The Alfa Romero Race car you win is purdy!
 
Toyota 7 fully tuned barely won the monaco only because the chatarral made a huge mistake during the race. It hit the band and got stuck and luckily I didn't hit him. Man I got so pissed off trying to win this race. Was playing with gearbox, but 330km/h which is default was the best option. You need to play a bit with suspension. At least this is what I did. My driver is only lvl24 fully red :P
 
Can anyone advise me on A-Spec car for historic cup and Like The Wind race? Completed 1st race in Gone Like The Wind but haven't got a car or money to buy for the oval race? And only got about 800.000 credits. Any help would be very grateful as its grinding me down. lol :crazy:
 
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